Is there a safety concern? Any other concerns? Do you have a problem with it?
Some jobs could be just fine. If my partner shows up high, there will be hell to pay. My other two jobs would be no big deal. I've had a few beers at each of them.
I have no problem with weed. I don't smoke, though.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:yamaha wrote: In reply to bearmtnmartin: So this one is hot, eh?PICS or BAN!
Sorry, its my bookkeeper. Not about to post pics of her. But I can imagine the conversation:
"Hey your hotness, I have been discussing your use of recreational drugs with thousands of people. They need to see a topless photo of you to form a clear and thoughtfull opinion on whether I should fire you. Smile for the camera!"
bearmtnmartin wrote: "Hey your hotness, I have been discussing your use of recreational drugs with thousands of people. They need to see a topless photo of you to form a clear and thoughtfull opinion on whether I should fire you. Smile for the camera!"
They always said weed was a gateway drug... next it's soft core porn in the Good God Almighty thread... then who knows what. You don't need to feel bad about helping her hit rock bottom. Get your camera.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:bearmtnmartin wrote: "Hey your hotness, I have been discussing your use of recreational drugs with thousands of people. They need to see a topless photo of you to form a clear and thoughtfull opinion on whether I should fire you. Smile for the camera!"They always said weed was a gateway drug... next it's soft core porn in the Good God Almighty thread... then who knows what. You don't need to feel bad about helping her hit rock bottom. Get your camera.
Maybe there are some jobs you can do toasted, or that I wouldn't care whether the person doing it is toasted. Bookkeeping isn't one of them.
If she is doing her job and doing it well, I'm in the "Tell her to keep up the good work, but don't come to work smelling like Cheech and Chong" camp.
Well I guess you can't tell when she smoked this weed, but I certainly do not want bookkeeper who burns one on the way to work.
Basil Exposition wrote: Maybe there are some jobs you can do toasted, or that I wouldn't care whether the person doing it is toasted. Bookkeeping isn't one of them.
Iono man, I've met some GENIUS stoners. I've probably said it 1000 times, but there is NO more ingenious or determined person than a stoner trying to do something. Best farmers I've ever seen..... I imagine a math minded one would be just as good.
Speaking as an ex-business owner and now manager of a small department at a company...
First and foremost, does her performance on the job appear to be affected? After all, she might be looking after a family member who has a need for medical marihuana and not partake herself. Or she needs it for medical reasons.
If she does her job as she always used to and there is no issue with that, in your situation I'd probably have a quiet word with her and leave it at that.
Basil Exposition wrote: Maybe there are some jobs you can do toasted, or that I wouldn't care whether the person doing it is toasted. Bookkeeping isn't one of them.
Have you ever done much bookkeeping?
Watch a stoner sort out their stash and tell me they wouldn't be good at the details of accounting.
dculberson wrote:Basil Exposition wrote: Maybe there are some jobs you can do toasted, or that I wouldn't care whether the person doing it is toasted. Bookkeeping isn't one of them.Have you ever done much bookkeeping? Watch a stoner sort out their stash and tell me they wouldn't be good at the details of accounting.
EXACTLY. People think of stoners as stupid, but I swear half of em get superpowers while high.
One of the smartest kids I ever knew was a huge stoner. In a college calculus class (Calc 2 or 3), he would never show up to class, wander in the day of the exam about halfway through, leave before everyone else, and set the curve.
Too bad he dropped out. I suspect he was dealing.
I wouldn't have any of that mess. That is all.
mndsm wrote: ....EXACTLY. People think of stoners as stupid, but I swear half of em get superpowers while high.
Generalizations are bad... mmkay..
You never know. She MAY be self-medicating for being super high strung / hyper. She might be BETTER at her job high!
People do pretty much the same thing with cigarettes.
I'd say +1 for what Swank Force One said, if she isn't a client-facing customer. If she is...you gotta make sure she doesn't come in with the dank stank again.
bearmtnmartin wrote:Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:Sorry, its my bookkeeper. Not about to post pics of her. But I can imagine the conversation: "Hey your hotness, I have been discussing your use of recreational drugs with thousands of people. They need to see a topless photo of you to form a clear and thoughtfull opinion on whether I should fire you. Smile for the camera!"yamaha wrote: In reply to bearmtnmartin: So this one is hot, eh?PICS or BAN!
Boss of the year award goes to this guy... Love it!!!
If you're worried about liability, have a detailed employee handbook, signature required, including all the "drug use, sexual harrassment, blah blah blah" bullE36 M3.
If she does her job efficiently, and isn't smoking inside, who the berkeley cares? It probably helps her focus...just like coffee does for other people.
IMHO: Don't acknowledge it. Plausible deniability. If anything, say "You smell like smoke. Please don't come to work smelling like smoke."
Also: Drunk vs. High is an apples vs. orangutans argument. Just like "Book-keeper" vs. "Heavy equipment operator."
My $.02 YMMV.
poopshovel wrote: IMHO: Don't acknowledge it. Plausible deniability.
Too late. He put it on the internet. 
What's that new cologne you're wearing? It makes me hungry. :)
SVreX wrote:poopshovel wrote: IMHO: Don't acknowledge it. Plausible deniability.Too late. He put it on the internet.
Obviously, someone has hacked his account.
I see you are a contractor... me too.
Where I live, it's illegal. End of story. The liability is too high once I am aware to keep her on. And you have made it known publically that you are fully aware. I'd give a written warning, and prepare to replace her.
If it was legal (like it is for you), I'd have a different opinion.
The issue is if she handles information that could be compromised.
Perhaps she sees customers face to face, does banking, or handles their cash. Red flag.
Perhaps she drives a company vehicle occassionally. Big red flag. Even if she drives her own vehicle on company time, red flag.
Perhaps she prepares sensitive information, like tax returns, payroll, SS #'s, or handles secure data. Red flag.
Perhaps she gets face to face with customers who would be offended and will cost you business- yellow flag.
Maybe she collects important info that will cost you money if not done well, like subcontractor insurance certificates, licenses, etc. Red Flag.
Forget that she is hot. That is a red flag for you- sexual harrassment.
Yes, some stoners get detail freakish when high. Maybe that's an advantage.
Important question... how do you know she is doing her job well? Have you audited her?
The most damage I have ever seen to a small business was caused by the bookkeeper, and I've seen it dozens of times. Theft, carelessness, incompetence, or just plain stupid. I've seen bookkeepers walk away from a contractor with half a million in "redirected" funds.
Bottom line... It's a business decision. Make it.
A bookkeeper swindled a sizeable pile of cash from my dad's business, when she got a whiff that he was on to her (he took the deposit books away from her) she took off leaving no forwarding address. When she was located (in Floriduh) she was working for someone else and told my dad that she would pay him back out of what she made working for the new boss. Turned out she was stealing from my dad's business to pay off the guy before that. Last I heard she had seriously compromised her new boss and was suing him (this was at the dawn of the sexual harassment lawsuit frenzy).
For the last time, it is not legal, not even in BC. Cripes people.
Do we have any forum members from Uruguay?
If people can and do smoke it openly without fear of repercussion then it is as good as legal. Go ahead and light up on the street or in a park in Vancouver and see what happens. Unless you are disturbing other people with your smoke or other behaviour the worst that will happen is you will be asked to put it out. A Mountie was just in the news for smoking while in uniform. If you want to bullet proof yourself then just ask your doctor for a note.
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