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Nov. 5, 2009 10:13 a.m. aircooled SuperDork

If you saw the Southpark episode (The F Word) last night...

...ouch... quite insightful.

Kind of makes you want to wander around a Harley shop saying "hrub hrub hrub hrub hrub hrub"

Interesting take an the re-defining of a word. Of course in reality, a word means what people think it means, if enough people start using it that way, there certainly could be a new definition. For those who missed it, this is (or is close to) the text that was shown at the end of the show.

Fag: An extremely annoying, inconsiderate person most commonly associated with Harley riders or a person who owns or frequently rides a Harley.

In case you are worried, I don't think that word is every used in Southpark other then to describe someone as some sort of a-hole (another major point in the episode).

It does also make you wonder if there is a chance that the Harley "appeal" might be turning a corner. Hell, if this episode is popular enough, there might be a whole generation of people who would be totally turned off by them, unless of course they like being called...
Nov. 5, 2009 10:17 a.m. splitime Reader

I'll admit it... I thoroughly enjoyed the episode :)
Nov. 5, 2009 10:42 a.m. neon4891 UltraDork

NSFW, clip time

They also have the full episode already
Nov. 5, 2009 10:56 a.m. poopshovel UltraDork

THAT_WAS_AWESOME!!!

My wife said "fag" every time she saw a harley this morning. It's "leaf" season, so I look forward to making my little sharpie'd sign to stick in the window when they ride by. Seriously, a berkeleying v-twin makes the most annoying berkeleying noise I've ever heard in my life. South Park gets serious props for pointing it out. Everytime one of those douchenozzles stops at the stop sign in front of my shop and revs his two-wheeled mid-life crisismobile 8 thousand times, I want to rip his berkeleying helmet off and yell "NO ONE berkeleying THINKS YOU'RE COOL BUT YOU, DUMBASS!"

Nick Swardson has an awesome bit on the words "gay" and "retarded." The gay folks I know don't have a problem with the word "fag" to describe someone who participates in rampant douchebaggery. Then again, my friends are pretty cool.
Nov. 5, 2009 11:02 a.m. Dr. Hess PowerDork

HA HA, you bunch of Bob Costas. I should get my wife to ride her bike with open drag pipes through your neighborhood at 2AM. HA HA HA HA.
Nov. 5, 2009 11:42 a.m. aircooled SuperDork

Might want to check the seat carefully the next time you leave your Harley parked somewhere... especially if you smell a KFC chicken bowl...
Nov. 5, 2009 11:53 a.m. neon4891 UltraDork

The main thing that gets me is blipping the throttle when stoped. Is your carb or EFI so messed up that it your bike will stall out if you don't?
Nov. 5, 2009 11:54 a.m. Ian F HalfDork

I'm not sure there's anything on the road that my girlfriend hates more that Harleys... especially when the rider slows down to a freakin' crawl at the mere notion of a bend in the road... seriously, do those things really handle that bad??
Nov. 5, 2009 12:19 p.m. 93gsxturbo Reader

neon4891 wrote:

The main thing that gets me is blipping the throttle when stoped. Is your carb or EFI so messed up that it your bike will stall out if you don't?

Harley carbs dont have idle circuits in them, and the EFI programming doesnt allow for fuel under a constant throttle state. Hence the need for constant revving.

Yes, that episode was great.
Nov. 5, 2009 12:22 p.m. DrBoost HalfDork

Dr. Hess wrote:

HA HA, you bunch of Bob Costas. I should get my wife to ride her bike with open drag pipes through your neighborhood at 2AM. HA HA HA HA.

There's a guy in my old neighborhood who had his midlife-crisismobile equipped with open pipes. No muffs that I could see. It was soo terribly, painfully loud that someone in the neighborhood went over one night and coated the bike with aircraft stripper. I applaud that move and openly offered to take said person out for a steak dinner.
Nov. 5, 2009 12:29 p.m. Xceler8x Dork

93gsxturbo wrote:

Harley carbs dont have idle circuits in them, and the EFI programming doesnt allow for fuel under a constant throttle state. Hence the need for constant revving.

I must be missing something. My Buell has a carb and for all intents and purposes has a Harley motor and carb. It idles fine. No revving needed.

Some people confuse quantity of noise with the quality of noise. I've been guilty of it.
Nov. 5, 2009 12:34 p.m. Carson Dork

In reply to Dr. Hess:

I don't want to start any flame throwing or get this thread off-topic, but Dr. Hess, I sincerely would like to know what it is about yours or any Harley you find so appealing. Is it the way they sound? Ride? Or something more emotional or simpler?

I'm not really a fan, at all, and I have a friend who worked as a wrench at a big Harley dealership and he said the quality is horrible, they're cheaply made, and over priced. He now works at a Suzuki/Ducati/Moto Guzzi dealership and is blown away by the quality difference.

We recently, (a few years now) had a Harley riding police officer die when pulling over a speeder, the fork snapped off. Now all the local police are on BMWs starting this year.
Nov. 5, 2009 12:35 p.m. aircooled SuperDork

93gsxturbo wrote:

Harley carbs dont have idle circuits in them, and the EFI programming doesnt allow for fuel under a constant throttle state. Hence the need for constant revving.

Seriously? Your kidding right? Maybe the really old ones?

I figure it is because of the widely lumpy idle (caused by the goofy firing sequence) they have fooling the rider into thinking they are about to sputter to a stop at any moment.

Of course, the lumpy idle maybe another reason why they won't appeal to the next generation. Many people associate a lumpy idle with the wild cam of a hot rod. Now days, a car with a hot cam idles just fine (VTEC etc.)
Nov. 5, 2009 12:36 p.m. Jensenman MegaDork

Loud noise has a time and a place. The average straight piped fag doesn't understand that concept.

I gotta say that I include the loudazz sportbikers in that category as well. At 2AM it doesn't matter if it's a Harley or a Hayabusa, I want to bitchslap each of them equally.
Nov. 5, 2009 12:51 p.m. Marjorie Suddard General Manager

My house is located less than a mile from Destination Daytona, the Harley dealership/place to buy useless crap covered with logos/mecca. Probably no surprise that I can. not. stand. Harleys. Loud pipes don't save lives, shiny happy person, they make me want to run you right off the road.

Don't have a lot of respect for the vast majority of people who ride them, either. Sooooo, let me get this straight: You can't be bound by society's rules and gotta forge your own "wild" path... so you dress up exactly like every other douchebag riding around and exhibit idiot pack behavior. Yeah, you're right, you're a rebel.

Little tip, Harley folks: Look in a mirror. I guarantee you and your floppy skinbag womens will cover up a little once you realize you look like the human equivalent of lawn furniture that was never brought in for the winter.

Peace and love, stupid boomers.

Margie
Nov. 5, 2009 12:55 p.m. tuna55 Reader

I do like harleys, in theory. but yes, they have certainly taken a turn towards the goth kids side (drink you coffee Stan, you can't be a noncomformist if you don't drink your coffee).

I like the way they look, and sound, but the volume is clearly not necessary. Now the riders, I have no idea why you need to dress like that to ride one. If I had one, I would ride it in a green turtleneck sweater and khakis, just because.
Nov. 5, 2009 12:58 p.m. Dr. Hess PowerDork

Now I finally have a reason to ride to Datona.
Nov. 5, 2009 1:00 p.m. poopshovel UltraDork

Marjorie Suddard wrote:

My house is located less than a mile from Destination Daytona, the Harley dealership/place to buy useless crap covered with logos/mecca. Probably no surprise that I can. not. stand. Harleys. Loud pipes don't save lives, shiny happy person, they make me want to run you right off the road.

Don't have a lot of respect for the vast majority of people who ride them, either. Sooooo, let me get this straight: You can't be bound by society's rules and gotta forge your own "wild" path... so you dress up exactly like every other douchebag riding around and exhibit idiot pack behavior. Yeah, you're right, you're a rebel.

Little tip, Harley folks: Look in a mirror. I guarantee you and your floppy skinbag womens will cover up a little once you realize you look like the human equivalent of lawn furniture that was never brought in for the winter.

Peace and love, stupid boomers.

Margie

Would it be inappropriate for me to say "I love you?" If you want to go in on some purple "Think twice, save a life, don't ride like a Bob Costas" stickers, lemme know.
Nov. 5, 2009 1:03 p.m. poopshovel UltraDork

Dr. Hess wrote:

HA HA, you bunch of Bob Costas. I should get my wife to ride her bike with open drag pipes through your neighborhood at 2AM. HA HA HA HA.

You know, it REALLY gets under my skin when people use the phrase "Case-in-point," as there rarely is a time when it's applicable. Congratulations.
Nov. 5, 2009 1:07 p.m. Cotton HalfDork

DrBoost wrote:

Dr. Hess wrote:

HA HA, you bunch of Bob Costas. I should get my wife to ride her bike with open drag pipes through your neighborhood at 2AM. HA HA HA HA.

There's a guy in my old neighborhood who had his midlife-crisismobile equipped with open pipes. No muffs that I could see. It was soo terribly, painfully loud that someone in the neighborhood went over one night and coated the bike with aircraft stripper. I applaud that move and openly offered to take said person out for a steak dinner.

Are you serious? Ever thought of talking to a guy? Coming on my property at night and touching any of my cars or bikes could very easily get a person shot.

I don't own a Harley, and yes the constant reving is annoying, but all Harley riders aren't like that. I actually own three jap bikes and one from Sweden, but I do like some Harleys and could see owning one.

For a board full of Miata owners you guys sure do like your stereotypes.
Nov. 5, 2009 1:12 p.m. Marjorie Suddard General Manager

Cotton wrote:

For a board full of Miata owners you guys sure do like your stereotypes.

No, actually, I abhor the stereotype, resent being overrun by a few hundred thousand examples of it each year, and welcome any Harley rider's attempt to fight it. Sadly, I get few opportunities to see any of that fight manifested.

Except for Hess's recent exertions, that is.

Margie
Nov. 5, 2009 1:22 p.m. Marjorie Suddard General Manager

Dr. Hess wrote:

Now I finally have a reason to ride to Datona.

Oh, yeah, and when you do? Don't puss along in the left lane going 5 under the whole way. Dare to be different.

Margie
Nov. 5, 2009 2:11 p.m. JetMech Reader

tuna55 wrote:

If I had one, I would ride it in a green turtleneck sweater and khakis, just because.

You saw that sort of thing in H-D ads from the 1950s.

Cotton wrote:

DrBoost wrote:

There's a guy in my old neighborhood who had his midlife-crisismobile equipped with open pipes. No muffs that I could see. It was soo terribly, painfully loud that someone in the neighborhood went over one night and coated the bike with aircraft stripper. I applaud that move and openly offered to take said person out for a steak dinner.

Are you serious? Ever thought of talking to a guy? Coming on my property at night and touching any of my cars or bikes could very easily get a person shot.

I'd do the same.

Jensenman wrote:

Loud noise has a time and a place.

I wish my neighbors knew that! They can't come up the stairs silently to save their lives.

But, returning to topic, I'd much rather hear a straight-piped Harley than some shiny happy person's loud rap music.

South Park, on the other hand, really got under my skin. Never found it funny in the least. Yet I'd now like to know what Parker and Stone drive.
Nov. 5, 2009 2:16 p.m. Carson Dork

Probably Harley branded Priuses.
Nov. 5, 2009 2:22 p.m. Keith PowerDork

If Harley owners are so concerned with safety that they have to ride without mufflers, why don't they wear helmets except under duress?

Our local police force rides BMWs. The local Harley dealer threw a big fit and started chanting U S A! U S A! Harleys are cheaper and are made in the US. The police force stated that yes, they're cheaper to purchase. But the BMWs are cheaper to run and maintain, and reliability was more important than the country of origin.

Now the Harley dealership sells BMWs as well

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