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  • Xceler8x

    Nov. 5, 2009 8:43 p.m. Xceler8x Dork

    I think living in Daytona..you get HD rider overload. My brother went to Embry Riddle and lived off the strip for a semester. That was during bike week. He can't stand Harley's now. He gets a "back from Nam" look in his eye when he talks about it.

    Most motorcycle riders I know uncork the exhaust. All except BMW guys for some reason.

    I see sport bikers do it to Jap bikes, Ducati's, even Brit bikes new and old. Then I see cruiser guys open up the pipes on Jap cruisers and HD cruisers. I'd an epidemic.

    But the HD guys get the rap. Maybe because they rev them out more? I do hear more sport bike guys revving out on summer nights than HD guys. That's probably a geography thing.

    What I'm saying is that a lot of motorcyclists open up the exhaust but HD guys get the rap. I hate an over loud bike...now. There was a time where I rode one. Evolution I guess...

  • bigbrainonbrad

    Nov. 5, 2009 9:05 p.m. bigbrainonbrad New Reader

    I second (third, whatever) the sportbikers and their loud pipes. I was behind a guy on a reasonably new R1, hell of a bike I'd love to have it myself. Apparently there was something wrong with his though as it only had two gears. The speed he was traveling at caused the most god-awful high pitched resonance that after a few seconds I just pulled off onto a side street and let him get along. Before I pulled off, I contemplated just running him over, but that would have ruined my beater miata.

  • 96DXCivic

    Nov. 5, 2009 9:14 p.m. 96DXCivic HalfDork

    Why would anyone buy a HD? Can someone explain it to me? I honestly don't understand. And uncorked Honda engines can sound good.

  • Apexcarver

    Nov. 5, 2009 9:25 p.m. Apexcarver UltraDork

    I dont get much of the harley annoyance, I get some sport bike annoyance, my primary annoyance comes from the highschool kids who took the mufflers off their cars and blast around behind my house until 2am with regularity. (a few hondas, VW VR6's, etc.)

    I keep waiting for one of those windouts to end with a CRUNCH! tinkle tinkle.

    one of the things I love about winter is they stay home alot more. I can cope with the gentle scraping sound of a snow plow.

    Granted I love hearing motors wind out on the right occasions, but I still wouldnt elect to live next to a drag strip that ran late into the night.

    I hate it when I break down and call the police on them for racing on the street in the middle of the night, but it seriously drives me nuts when I have to get up for class in the morning.

    (also reminds me that I need to look into what it would take for them to put a no engine braking for semis ordinance in for the road. 40mph and houses on either side, do they really need the jake brake at 3am?)

    dang, I feel like an old man yelling at kids to stay off my lawn (that shouldnt be happening, im still in college)

  • Trans_Maro

    Nov. 5, 2009 9:31 p.m. Trans_Maro HalfDork

    These guys are missing the point of owning a Harley.

    You're not supposed to ride them far, if at all.

    My buddy's neighbours are like this, every time I'm at his house helping him with a car they show up.

    The arrive at 9 or 10 AM, get off their bikes, take their coats off to expose the OCC shirts, open the beer and start bullE36 M3ting.

    This carries on until about 6 or 7 at night when they all pack up and go home.

    I guess they're afraid the bikes will break or something.

    Shawn

  • stuart in mn

    Nov. 5, 2009 9:37 p.m. stuart in mn SuperDork

    Xceler8x wrote: But the HD guys get the rap. Maybe because they rev them out more? I do hear more sport bike guys revving out on summer nights than HD guys. That's probably a geography thing.

    Must be. Around here there are a lot more unmuffled H-Ds going past my house at 2am. A lot of the sport bike guys have aftermarket pipes as well, but they all have some muffling so they aren't that bad.

    The funny thing is, chances are the open pipes on all those Harleys probably reduce their horsepower.

  • mad_machine

    Nov. 5, 2009 9:59 p.m. mad_machine PowerDork

    I will say this.. HDs are annoying... but uncorked sportbikes can scare you witless on the highway.

    I remember cruising along at about 75mph on 95 in the truck I used to drive when a sport bike FLEW by me like was standing still. I did not see OR hear him until he passed.. and when he did, it made me jump.

  • bamalama

    Nov. 5, 2009 10:01 p.m. bamalama Reader

    As I was reading this thread, my next door neighbor pulled up on his HD. At least he has the decency to short shift the thing so the whole damn neighborhood doesn't have to hear it.

  • Appleseed

    Nov. 5, 2009 10:02 p.m. Appleseed Dork

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  • benzbaron

    Nov. 5, 2009 10:11 p.m. benzbaron Reader

    I like that Transmaro about not riding harleys far. Half the folks use them as bar hoppers, I used to joke with my uncle about people "opening it up" for the 4 blocks it took to get to the neighborhood bar. The bikes probably didn't even get warmed up. My blast has about 27,500miles on it so I would never own anythink I couldn't ride.

    The only thing I know about having to rev the engine to keep the buell going is it only happens at high altitude above say 3000ft when it is hot 90F and the idle starts to suck and the bike will die. I think it is the autochoke but it only happens in the mountain when it is hot so it isn't a real concern. As for warming the bikes up, harley used paper gaskets on some models and if you hop on a cold bike and go you WILL blow a gasket. Before I got my bike the rocker box gasket got blow under similar circumstances. I think they finally went for MLS or whatever gaskets and solved the problem.

  • Wally

    Nov. 6, 2009 1:47 a.m. Wally UberDork

    I have the opposite by where I work. We have a lot of motorcycles and the sportbikes are by far more annoying. Most of the Harleys, even those trying to find the Hells Angels Clubhouse just kinda ride along while most of the sportbikes have some asshat dressed like a roman warrior holds the bike at 10 grand until the light changes then stalls it and holds up traffic until it changes again. They do provide some entertainment though as about once a week one of them will go either over the handlebars onto the car ahead or dump thier almost naked passenger on the ground as they take off.

  • mtn

    Nov. 6, 2009 3:37 a.m. mtn SuperDork

    On the no helmets thing, I asked my dads good friend about this. He's got a Sportster? or maybe a fatboy? thats been extensively modified in a Lotus sense: if he doesn't need it, its not there. It looks really cool, and you can have a conversation with him standing right by it. But anyways, he said that he likes to be able to hear everything that is going on around him--Kinda defeated by most HD riders with the Loud Pipes save lives thing, but that was his reason.

  • foxtrapper

    Nov. 6, 2009 5:41 a.m. foxtrapper UltraDork

    Sounds like there's some money to be made with SouthPark Harley bumper stickers.

  • Tim Baxter

    Nov. 6, 2009 6:20 a.m. Tim Baxter Online Editor

    Asshats don't have exclusive rights to the HD logo.

    You must have not seen the Officially Licensed Harley Davidson AssHat...

    "Helmets are for losers. Keep your head warm with our exclusive Harley Davidson AssHat--made to coordinate with Official Harley Davidson Assless Chaps"

  • DrBoost

    Nov. 6, 2009 6:46 a.m. DrBoost HalfDork

    DirtyBird222 wrote:

    DrBoost wrote:

    HD is the General Motors of the bike world.
    Hopelessly out of date but refusing to make a world class bike (or car GM). They'd rather just buy another company that makes decent stuff and run with it assuming that people will keep buying the junk "cuz my daddy and grand-daddy did."

    Disclaimer, GM is now starting to build good cars, i.e. the vette, CTS-v and Cobalt SS. H-D has started using better cotton for the socks they sell to the mindless masses.

    You must be living in teh 80s or mid 90s still. It's ok and I forgive you, but it is in fact almost 2010, remove the flannel shirt that is tied around your waste, put the joint down, and cut your Jim Brewer styled hair (from half baked), and look at some of the other cars they've produced over the past 8-10 years. A lot more world class cars than just the CTS or Cobalt.

    Oh cummon, I gave them credit for the Vette. And I hear the new Malibu is decent. But, GM is a automotive punchline. It appears they are turning that around now, but only because of the car companies they own, not by what the american GM builds. GM keeps building lethargic vehicles that ignorant Americans continue to buy because they like the name: Monte Carlo SS (the SS part is a HUGE stretch), Impala, ANY Buick, ANY Oldsmobile (Dead), Cobalt, ANY Saturn (less the Skye and Redline Vue), DTS, Grand Prix, that JUNK minivan, the lack of styling on their pick-ups and on and on. Now, 10 years from now I believe all that will be gone, but you gotta remember, they've spent many, many years building to the lowest common denominator and assuming that they will always be a fat cat just because of the loyalty that once was.

  • Rusnak_322

    Nov. 6, 2009 7:53 a.m. Rusnak_322 Reader

    There are 4 or 5 Harleys on my neighborhood. My Dicati with Termi's is louder at idle then any of them. I used to hate HD. But as I grow older I have started to like them more and more. I have ridden and rented lots of them. I used to only rent the V-rod types but last time my wife and I were on vacation in Florida we rented a street rod and a fat boy. we are both sportbike people (former roadraces) and we wound up fighting over who got to ride the fatboy. Cruising the FL coast, that bike was perfect and very comfortable. If they didn't cost so much, I would defenetly consider one as a second bike.

    I do hate the straight pipes, and we always wear gear. A decent aftermarket pipe on a harley sounds good to me in the same way a decent aftermarket exhaust can make a corvette or a V8 pick-up either sound great or like crap.

  • minimac

    Nov. 6, 2009 8:24 a.m. minimac Dork

    Trans_Maro wrote: These guys are missing the point of owning a Harley. You're not supposed to ride them far, if at all. My buddy's neighbours are like this, every time I'm at his house helping him with a car they show up. The arrive at 9 or 10 AM, get off their bikes, take their coats off to expose the OCC shirts, open the beer and start bullE36 M3ting. This carries on until about 6 or 7 at night when they all pack up and go home I guess they're afraid the bikes will break or something. Shawn

    Who is the poor sap that gets to clean up all of the oil that's dropped on the driveway? It's really too bad that the majority of the Harley owners aren't really what I'd consider bikers- they're bar hoppin' posers. People like our Dr. Hess, who actually ride, can appreciate the experience of being on the open road, cruising in comfort, and feeling that power. Just as stated earlier, not all sportbikers are squids, but it sure seems like the majority of them are. The feeling of running the twisties on a nice, well balanced sportsbike is something every rider needs to experience. Now where can I get some straight pipes for my Goldwing to match my fanboi jacket and stick-on tats.....

  • poopshovel

    Nov. 6, 2009 8:28 a.m. poopshovel UltraDork

    You must have not seen the Officially Licensed Harley Davidson AssHat...

    I lawl'd. And I maintain that V-twins sound like E36 M3. Always. Corked, uncorked, whatever. They never sound "right." Sportbikes don't rattle the E36 M3 out of the plate glass windows of my shop.

  • Snowdoggie

    Nov. 6, 2009 8:49 a.m. Snowdoggie HalfDork

    It doesn't matter what you ride or drive or how much noise it makes, Eric Cartman still thinks you are a FAG.

  • JetMech

    Nov. 6, 2009 8:58 a.m. JetMech Reader

    Wally wrote:

    I have the opposite by where I work. We have a lot of motorcycles and the sportbikes are by far more annoying.

    Harley riders out here are usually pretty considerate of other motorists. I've never been tempted to door one of them. The same cannot be said of sport-bike jockeys.

  • Twin_Cam

    Nov. 6, 2009 9:59 a.m. Twin_Cam Dork

    Now I REALLY love South Park.

    I live just minutes from York where the Harley plant is. There are so many of them here. I will readily admit I have no patience for them. They sound like E36 M3. Plain and simple. They sound awful (and they're Earth-shakingly, spirit-crushingly, baby-screaming-at-the-top-of-it's-lungs-in-your-ear-in-an-elevator loud at the same time), they look awful, and I've never ridden one, but they're apparently pretty damn slow and considering they weigh as much as they do, pretty damn bad at turning. It seems the two things they are good at is leaking oil and breaking down. Why the hell would anyone drive such a vehicle?!

    Talk about a true marketing triumph. Get that advertising agency a beer. Or not.

  • Keith

    Nov. 6, 2009 10:18 a.m. Keith PowerDork

    Trans_Maro wrote:

    The arrive at 9 or 10 AM, get off their bikes, take their coats off to expose the OCC shirts, open the beer and start bullE36 M3ting.

    This carries on until about 6 or 7 at night when they all pack up and go home.

    I dunno, that just sounds like a bunch of gearheads to me.

  • Kramer

    Nov. 6, 2009 11:28 a.m. Kramer HalfDork

    What's the difference between a Harley and a Hoover?

    You can only put one dirtbag on a Hoover.

  • GameboyRMH

    Nov. 6, 2009 12:06 p.m. GameboyRMH UltraDork

    I think cops let Harley riders get away with those ridiculous exhaust systems because there's no challenge in chasing them down.

  • Rusnak_322

    Nov. 6, 2009 12:47 p.m. Rusnak_322 Reader

    Keith wrote:

    Trans_Maro wrote:

    The arrive at 9 or 10 AM, get off their bikes, take their coats off to expose the OCC shirts, open the beer and start bullE36 M3ting.

    This carries on until about 6 or 7 at night when they all pack up and go home.

    I dunno, that just sounds like a bunch of gearheads to me.

    No kidding. How about these A$$Hats -

    "The arrive at 9 or 10 AM, get out of their Miatas and P71s, take their coats off to expose the GRM shirts, open the beer and start bullE36 M3ting.

    This carries on until about 6 or 7 at night when they all pack up and go home"

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