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Re my question: was actually looking for the Porsche 917/30 
Hamilton?
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Dec. 30, 2008 11:38 p.m. Luke Dork
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Dec. 30, 2008 11:56 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork
how did the 917/30 end Can Am?
The 2J is considered the end of Can Am, because the rulemakers deemed it illegal, so chapparal quit. once they quit, the series was effectively over.
as for Hamilton, he was 1 year 81 days older on the day of his first win, than the current record holder was on the day of his first win. (confused enough yet?)
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Dec. 31, 2008 12:14 a.m. jgp1843 HalfDork
Actually, like Luke, most folks agree about the 917/30. When Chaparral pulled out after the 2J (and I am probably the world's biggest Chaparral fan - anyone who loved the Can-Am needs to make the pilgraimage to Midland, Texas to visit the Chaparral wing at the petroleum museum there - see my article on the museum in a back issue of CMS) it was just the loss of one car - the McLarens were still there. When the Penske/Porsche juggernaut pretty much wiped out the competition, it became obvious that no one could compete with them without having major manufacturer backing and a huge development budget. After Porsche pulled out due to lack of competition, Shadow pretty much ruled the roost until the series died for the first time.
Actually, though, I don't agree with the excuse that Porsche killed the Can-Am. McLaren dominated just as much as Porsche for several years, only seriously threatened by the technically superb - but unreliable - Chaparrals. I think it was a combination of factors, partly the rise of the need for more and more technically advanced cars, more and more stringent rules, and the continual domination by one team (and the identity of that team changed from McLaren to Prosche to Shadow).
As far as the pure Can-Am, i.e. virtually no rules other than safety and full bodywork - the FIA killed it, starting with the moveable aero devices rule that was actually put into effect before the 2J was built, in response to wing failures in F1.
Anyone remember that Roger Penske used to drive for Chaparral back in the USRRC days, just before he retired to become an owner?
And the youngest winner begins with a V - I'll let someone else get this one.
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Dec. 31, 2008 12:42 a.m. maroon92 SuperDork
thanks for the clarification jgp... I just know that some, especially those involved in the sport, say that the exclusion of Chapparal was "the beginning of the end". Pete Lyons is one that I can remember off the top of my head, he said it in the Can Am Thunder DVD. (good documentary, but Sam Posey's Can Am: a speed odyssey is better)
and yes, his name does begin with a V.
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Dec. 31, 2008 12:30 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork
nobody knows a young guy who's name starts with a V...he won this year...at Monza...won pole....led every lap...nobody?
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Dec. 31, 2008 12:52 p.m. AngryCorvair Dork
i figured it was so obvious that everyone was embarassed to say: sebastian vettel, bitches!
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Dec. 31, 2008 1:03 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork
great jorb AC.
the floor is yours.
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Jan. 1, 2009 2:47 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork
Angry....we need your input.
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Jan. 1, 2009 10:27 p.m. AngryCorvair Dork
what kind of car did Damone drive in Fast Times at Ridgemont High?
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Jan. 1, 2009 10:58 p.m. Josh Reader
It was a Trans Am, right? Either way, my stepdad's a TV repairman, and he's got this bitchin' set of tools and I know we can fix it right up.
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Jan. 3, 2009 11:54 a.m. maroon92 SuperDork
this is working about as well as Chinese toy making companies.
BUMP!
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Jan. 3, 2009 2:41 p.m. rustyvw HalfDork
It was a Z/28 wasn't it?
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Jan. 3, 2009 7:15 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork
Deffinately a Z/28, rusty has the board.
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Jan. 3, 2009 8:43 p.m. rustyvw HalfDork
What was the first car to come with anti lock brakes?
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Jan. 3, 2009 8:52 p.m. Jensenman UltimaDork
If I am not mistaken the Jensen FF was the first production car to have antilock brakes as standard equipment. It was a Dunlop Maxaret system originally designed for aircraft use.
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Jan. 3, 2009 9:02 p.m. rustyvw HalfDork
That was fast. It's your turn Jensenman.
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Jan. 3, 2009 10:04 p.m. Jensenman UltimaDork
Following in the Jensen vein (sorta): the Jensen Healey was the first production car to use the 9 series Lotus engine, but the J-H was not built by Lotus.The engine went on to be used in the Lotus-built Elite, Excel and Esprit.
What was the last non-Lotus built car to use that engine?
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Jan. 3, 2009 11:13 p.m. AngryCorvair Dork
maroon92 wrote:
Deffinately a Z/28, rusty has the board.
WRONG! Mike Damone was the ticket scalper who knocked up Stacy Hamilton (Brad's little sister), then didn't show up at the agreed-upon time to take her to the free clinic for the $150 abortion. The next day, Damone is shown driving a green AMC Gremlin with a piece of cardboard taped to the driver's door, where Linda (Stacy's whore best friend, the object of Brad's poolside masturbation fantasy) had spray-painted "Little Prick".
You guys were thinking of Jefferson's Z28, which Spicoli crashes into a big pile of cinderblocks.
So, the answer is AMC Gremlin, and the floor is still mine.
New question: What is the song playing in the movie when Brad whacks it while fantasizing about Linda?
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Jan. 3, 2009 11:33 p.m. ManofFewWords Reader
Guessing. Its so easy by the cars
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Jan. 3, 2009 11:40 p.m. racinginc215 New Reader
Jensenman was it the talbot sunbeam?
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Jan. 4, 2009 7:53 a.m. Jensenman UltimaDork
Yes, it was. racinginc15 now has the floor.
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Jan. 6, 2009 9:21 a.m. racinginc215 New Reader
First production car with all wheel drive. Here's a hint there is one in my garage awaiting restoration.
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Jan. 6, 2009 12:01 p.m. Jensenman UltimaDork
The Jensen FF (Ferguson Formula) once again.
If you have one, that's a VERY rare bird here in the Colonies.
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Jan. 6, 2009 3:21 p.m. Mental UltraDork
AngryCorvair wrote:
...So, the answer is AMC Gremlin, and the floor is still mine.
New question: What is the song playing in the movie when Brad whacks it while fantasizing about Linda?
"Movin' in Stereo" by The Cars
Although, it disturbs me you refer to it as the "Brad Whacks it..." scene, instead of its proper term; "Topless Phoebe Cates Scene"
and while the Jensen FF was availible in AWD, only 318 of them were fitted with it. Technically Subarau and American Motors Company had versions in 1972.
But if you really want to get obnioxus, Williys introduced AWD with the Jeep. While intended as a 4 wheel drive, it was actually truely AWD, becuase the wheels always turned.
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Jan. 6, 2009 3:48 p.m. AngryCorvair Dork
Mental wrote:
AngryCorvair wrote:
...So, the answer is AMC Gremlin, and the floor is still mine.
New question: What is the song playing in the movie when Brad whacks it while fantasizing about Linda?
"Movin' in Stereo" by The Cars
Although, it disturbs me you refer to it as the "Brad Whacks it..." scene, instead of its proper term; "Topless Phoebe Cates Scene"
aka the "Mental Whacks It..." scene. don't feel bad, though. i did too.
the floor is yours, Mental.
