carguy123 SuperDork
Feb. 21, 2012 2:11 p.m.

I thought there were laws about requiring truth in advertising.

I just bought 2 of those triangle shaped thingies (one large and one small) for ensuring you get a straight line, a 45 degree line, measuring roof pitch, etc.

Found out they should be named trimangles.

What tool do you have that should be renamed?

JoeyM SuperDork
Feb. 21, 2012 2:44 p.m.

The definitive list would be this list of tool definitions from Peter Egan
http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Workshop/Definitions.htm

carguy123 SuperDork
Feb. 21, 2012 3:08 p.m.

No, that doesn't give the tools their REAL names, only definitions of how they should be used.

Hal Dork
Feb. 21, 2012 3:32 p.m.

The problem is that you are calling them "triangles". Their real name is "Square". Actually the full name is Speed Square

mad_machine SuperDork
Feb. 21, 2012 4:07 p.m.

or you can just call them Hammers and be done with it

pinchvalve SuperDork
Feb. 21, 2012 4:14 p.m.

So what was the problem with the triangles? They were square? They were mangled? I don't get it.

Rob_Mopar Dork
Feb. 21, 2012 8:54 p.m.

Bad apex seals?

Hocrest HalfDork
Feb. 21, 2012 8:57 p.m.
pinchvalve wrote: So what was the problem with the triangles? They were square? They were mangled? I don't get it.

Yeah, I'm curious also. I love my speed square. One of my most used tools.

carguy123 SuperDork
Feb. 21, 2012 9:05 p.m.

Well either the trimangles were off or I was. I was installing flooring and the room had a bunch of 45 degree angles. I was much quicker and much more accurate measuring the lengths of each side of the board I wanted to cut than to use the trimangles.

I was always close, but not quite there with the trimangles and right on when I measured.

And how can anything shaped like a triangle be called a square?

SVreX SuperDork
Feb. 21, 2012 9:10 p.m.

I was taught to use a framing square by an old world master craftsman. I know how to read all the tables and scales on the tangs of a framing square, do all the math at any pitch, and can cut an ENTIRE complex roof without leaving the bench without ever getting a measurement from above. Hips, valleys, jack rafters, gable studs, everything.

I'm amazed at how few people ever learn to use the tools properly.

There is nothing I can do with a speed square that I am not able to do with a framing square, and there is quite a bit I can do with a framing square that can not be done with a speed square.

Out of protest, I do not own a speed square. I know, it's dumb.

failboat Dork
Feb. 21, 2012 9:11 p.m.

So you are assuming all your walls were built at the proper angle. That's your problem.

mistanfo
mistanfo SuperDork
Feb. 21, 2012 9:17 p.m.

It is called a square due to the ninety degree angle.

SVreX SuperDork
Feb. 21, 2012 9:20 p.m.
mistanfo wrote: It is called a square due to the ninety degree angle.

Yeah, if you have to explain it...

Hocrest HalfDork
Feb. 21, 2012 9:25 p.m.
SVreX wrote: There is nothing I can do with a speed square that I am not able to do with a framing square,

How deep are your pockets? I carry my speedsquare in my back pocket when I'm working around the house...

SVreX SuperDork
Feb. 21, 2012 9:37 p.m.
Hocrest wrote:
SVreX wrote: There is nothing I can do with a speed square that I am not able to do with a framing square,
How deep are your pockets? I carry my speedsquare in my back pocket when I'm working around the house...

The short tang threads into the belt loop of my nail pouch, and the long tang hangs alongside my leg. I know it sounds awkward, but I can climb through a building frame with it in my "pocket".

pete240z SuperDork
Feb. 21, 2012 10:35 p.m.
SVreX wrote: I was taught to use a framing square by an old world master craftsman. I know how to read all the tables and scales on the tangs of a framing square, do all the math at any pitch, and can cut an ENTIRE complex roof without leaving the bench without ever getting a measurement from above. Hips, valleys, jack rafters, gable studs, everything.

There are few that can do all this. You 'da man.

Streetwiseguy SuperDork
Feb. 21, 2012 11:08 p.m.

There must be some app for your smartphone so you can do without a square...

Trans_Maro SuperDork
Feb. 22, 2012 12:35 a.m.
carguy123 wrote: And how can anything shaped like a triangle be called a square?

novaderrik SuperDork
Feb. 22, 2012 1:08 a.m.
failboat wrote: So you are assuming all your walls were built at the proper angle. That's your problem.

this.. there is usually no such thing as a truly square corner in a house.

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