I eat meat still, just not in the house. I get a lecture for it if she's there, but I don't care. Fluffy animals are tasty!
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June 27, 2008 11:44 p.m. P71 Reader
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June 28, 2008 5:40 a.m. Jensenman UltimaDork
gamby wrote:
P71 wrote:
That means NO meat whatsoever, NO dairy whatsoever, NO animal products at all. I'd die if it wasn't for the fact that A: I'm allowed to have dairy in the house and B: she's a freaking AWESOME cook!
As an Italian-American, I could NEVER have that much of an adversarial relationship with food. I love exploring food of all kinds. Besides, I NEED meat protein. Period.
Also, I've known too many vegans who were chainsmokers. They must've needed to kill the hunger pangs somehow.
To each his own. I'll stick w/ moderation.
Not Italian, but I'm the same way as you. Last physical, I was about 15 pounds overweight but otherwise in disgustingly good health. I do, however avoid Mickey D's and similar like the plague. If I have to do fast food, it's Zaxby's or Subway or something like that.
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June 28, 2008 12:10 p.m. ignorant UltraDork
just got back from the farmers market in Summerville. http://freerangechickenfarm.com/ <-- I buy some from them... good stuff and relatively cheap.
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July 4, 2008 10:29 a.m. Jack SuperDork
Everything in moderation
Oatmeal for breakfast 5 days a week. Occassional red meat, fish chicken for dinner with lots of veggies and often hummus on "healthy crackers or bread or just yogurt for lunch. We try to avoid Corn sweetners, MSG and processed food with more than a handful of ingredients, expecially ones with those funny sounding ingredients.
Eating can become a chore if it's too restrictive. Keep it simple and enjoyable and it's sustainable,
Jack
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July 4, 2008 11:20 a.m. aeronca65t New Reader
Oatmeal, some raisins and plenty of cups of (hot) tea with milk all day long. That's 90% of what I eat.
Major whole grains, fiber and anti-oxidants. Not exactly moderate, but it works for me.
Anyway, I'm originally from Ireland and this is the type of diet my ancestor's subsisted on.
I'm 6' and 190# with excellent cholesterol (now) and 105/65 BP.
I started this a few years ago (when I reached 55 and my cholestrol was a little high). Before this, I ate "normal", including Mickey D's, chips, etc. I lost 40# when I started eating "abnormal". Chicken /fish / beans once a week or so.
And an occasional Smithwick's (sorry, German beer may be made to higher standards, but it all smells like cat urine to me).
I'm having a hamburger today (4th July) but that will be real unusual for me.
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July 4, 2008 2:35 p.m. porksboy HalfDork
I like to eat things that had parents.
If thats not available I like my veggies fresh and raw. If God hadnt wanted us to eat animals he wouldnt have made them out of meat.
I'm 5'9", a lean 175 lbs, blood pressure 100-70. My cholesterol is about 150 last I had it checked. I have 20/25 vision. And I'm in my early 40's. I eat what I want, in moderation. I just dont stuff myself at the table. Moderation is key and fast food and sodas are poison.
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July 6, 2008 4:38 a.m. curtis73 New Reader
I've actually gotten pretty deep into this since my new doctor is both a holistic practitioner and a naturopath.
Some people can tolerate a lot, but in general there are certain trends. Cow's dairy is pretty much satan-spawn. Its been proven time and time again. Sheep and Goat dairy contains much more suitable proteins. Unfortunately it tastes like musky pit sweat... but we may have said the same thing about cow's dairy if it weren't the most prevalent source.
Red meat takes up to 4 weeks to process in your intestines. During that time it rots at an accelerated rate. Imagine leaving a raw steak on your porch in 100-degree heat for 4 weeks. It would be pretty ripe.
Eggs are a tough one. They are an excellent source of viable protein, but the other things in it tend to be caustic over the long term.
Simple starch foods that contain a lot of Gluten are now being found to be one of the root problems with ADD, ADHD, Autism, and several other afflictions. My Autistic nephew didn't speak a single word until he was 5, then his parents discovered the link between gluten and Autism and today at age 7 you would swear he was a perfectly normal kid. If any of you have ADD, or focus/concentration issues, I challenge you to wipe any trace of gluten from your diet and I guarantee you'll see results pretty quickly.
Most humans don't get enough fish oil benefits, like the omegas. A supplement is a cheap and easy way to help that. Sugar is also a bummer. Switch to Stevia or Agave nectar.
Soy is a great protein, but it does increase estrogen in men. Before seeing this doctor, I was vegetarian and ate a LOT of soy. At my blood test, my Estrogen levels were equal to that of an ovulating woman. Not kidding.
So, here is what I've basically done. For 3 months I eliminated the following; alcohol, tobacco, sugar, gluten, red meat and pork, cow's dairy, simple starches (even the non-gluten types like white rice). I took daily fiber, fish oil, L carnatine, and a few other horse-pills, and as a result I staved off a rather nasty bout of depression, was able to become more focused, and I lost nearly 25 lbs and lowered cholesterol by 30%.
Sounds like an advertisement, huh. It ain't. Just healthy living.... I say that as I finish a Jack and Coke :)
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July 6, 2008 7:24 a.m. Jamesc2123 New Reader
I've known lots of people around here (Ithaca, NY) with CSA's, and I'll second whoever said to be prepared to eat LOTS of whats in season. Its not impossible to eat it all before it goes bad, it just requires eating more veggies than you're used to, not exactly the worst tradeoff if you're trying to eat heathly.
Plus, you're supporting local agriculture and giving a lot more money directly to the farmers themselves. If you care about that sort of thing.
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July 6, 2008 9:37 a.m. MrJoshua Dork
curtis73 wrote: some stuff I agree with and some I dont...................
Red meat takes up to 4 weeks to process in your intestines. During that time it rots at an accelerated rate. Imagine leaving a raw steak on your porch in 100-degree heat for 4 weeks. It would be pretty ripe.
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I see and hear this quoted all the time by vegetarians including the printed literature on display by the Krishnas who give out free food at UF. Show me some scientific stuff that says that happens please.
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July 6, 2008 10:28 a.m. Lesley Dork
I have a lot of food intolerances, so my diet's evolved accordingly. Generally, I stick to completely unprocessed foods, those that are found on the outside perimeter of the grocery store. Living alone, and being busy, I don't buy a huge quantity of fresh veggies any more, but the quality of fancy frozen veggies is pretty good. I usually buy asian mixes, or those with peppers, spinach, broccoli, that kind of thing. I never, ever buy canned food, other than solid white tuna, and don't eat frozen prepared food. In restaurants, I tend to choose meals that are clean - grilled chicken, fish, etc without sauces. But it's no fun being militant - if I want a hot dog at the track, or an Indian buffet once in a while – I go for it.
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July 6, 2008 10:43 a.m. suprf1y New Reader
I think I'm lucky. I love to eat, but cannot stand the sight, or smell of most dairy products. No milk in over 40yrs, butter is absurd to me (you people spread that stuff on your bread on purpose?), and don't get me started on cheese, sour cream, or any of that stuff. For that rerason, most sauces are out, too. I don't use sugar for anything, nor do I use salt. Maybe my tastebuds are super sensitive (or something), because I rarely put anything on my food. I could easily live on nuts, raw veggies, and some good bread, and when working shifts (away from the wife), used to go for weeks without eating any meat. OTOH, I had a 14oz prime rib for dinner last night, and it was truly awesome
