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  • pilotbraden

    April 29, 2011 3:13 p.m. pilotbraden HalfDork

    Intriguing

    http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2010/10/14/ducati-elenore-v8-update/

  • Graefin10

    April 29, 2011 3:45 p.m. Graefin10 New Reader

    Does anyone see the advantage of this over a comparable disp. engine with less cylinders? The 4 cy. sounds great but doesn't show impressive acceleration. I didn't see what the disp. of the V8 is.

  • 1988RedT2

    April 29, 2011 3:47 p.m. 1988RedT2 Dork

    Intriguing, but overly complicated. Give me a rotary-powered Norton, please.

  • April 29, 2011 4:19 p.m. triumph5 Dork

    That is thinking outside the box! Graefin10: you get more power pulses per revolution, so the engine should feel smoother, as is the rule with more cylinders for any given displacement.

    It should have the low rpm torque a rotary Norton wouldn't have.

    With 6 fewer connecting rods, reducing the reciprocating mass, it should rev quickly--provided the "rockers" that connect the pistons are lighter than comprable rods. .

  • mike

    April 30, 2011 10:39 a.m. mike Reader

    Some of the links are very short and swing through a large angle. I'm worried that the bearings on those links will take a real beating. I must say, it's quite a creative design though.

  • YaNi

    May 5, 2011 6:28 p.m. YaNi Reader

    mike wrote:

    Some of the links are very short and swing through a large angle. I'm worried that the bearings on those links will take a real beating. I must say, it's quite a creative design though.

    I'm also worried about those pivot bearings. They have to be using a semi-hydrodynamic lubrication regime because the mechanism doesn't create the required rotational speed to use a typical journal bearing. They can't use a ball bearing because the film thickness is too thin to absorb the shock from the combustion cycle. I'd like to see what kind of longevity they expect out of the engine.

  • JoeyM

    May 6, 2011 9:50 p.m. JoeyM SuperDork

    canoe

  • mike

    May 6, 2011 11:17 p.m. mike Reader

    YaNi wrote:

    mike wrote:

    Some of the links are very short and swing through a large angle. I'm worried that the bearings on those links will take a real beating. I must say, it's quite a creative design though.

    I'm also worried about those pivot bearings. They have to be using a semi-hydrodynamic lubrication regime because the mechanism doesn't create the required rotational speed to use a typical journal bearing. They can't use a ball bearing because the film thickness is too thin to absorb the shock from the combustion cycle. I'd like to see what kind of longevity they expect out of the engine.

    Perhaps they are using needle bearings for these, much like two-stroke wrist pins. I agree that a full hydrodynamic bearing is not feasible. It is generally not possible to make that kind of bearing work for reversing elements. However, most wrist pins are splash-fed plain bearings, so perhaps that would be good enough here as well. At any rate, it looks iffy from a longevity standpoint.

 
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