$2016 Challenge Entry List Released

We’re about 2 1/2 weeks away from the Grassroots Motorsports $2016 Challenge Driven by General Tire and sponsored by CRC Industries and Miller Electric. The field is shaping up extremely well. There’s a little bit of everythingon the list, from minivans to Miatas—and a “Ghettocet.” You can check out the current entry list right here.

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dansxr2
dansxr2 Dork
9/13/16 12:13 p.m.

Pretty interesting list thus far, has the smack talk began already?

NordicSaab
NordicSaab HalfDork
9/13/16 12:22 p.m.

I heard Team Bolus & Snopes owes Fraulein Rust some beer... that's what I heard at least.

Stampie
Stampie HalfDork
9/13/16 1:05 p.m.

Rumor is Andy will be wearing this while competing.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
9/13/16 1:06 p.m.

Rumor has it that Andy wears that anyway!

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
9/13/16 1:15 p.m.

Looks like we have quite a good Aristocrat following again:
Audi S6
Q45
Q45
Roadmaster Wagon
LS400
Even better, two of these (maybe 3) are Rookies!!!!

Minivan has only 4:
Caravan
Odyssey
APV GTP
Quest

Andy Neuman
Andy Neuman HalfDork
9/13/16 1:32 p.m.

In reply to Stampie:

Checking Amazon now

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/13/16 1:38 p.m.
Andy Neuman wrote: In reply to Stampie: Checking Amazon now

Nah....just check your closet.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
9/13/16 1:44 p.m.

Looking forward to the F-350 Crew Cab doing the pylons.

singleslammer
singleslammer UberDork
9/13/16 3:26 p.m.

So, Ed, what happens if I originally said that I would be able to hit the $1008 class and am not going to hit that mark?

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
9/13/16 3:44 p.m.

In reply to singleslammer:

Just let me know and I can manually change which classes you are in.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
9/13/16 3:56 p.m.
914Driver wrote: Looking forward to the F-350 Crew Cab doing the pylons.

Says one of the earliest Minivan competitor. You were ahead of the game by 12 years.

Andy Neuman
Andy Neuman HalfDork
9/13/16 4:01 p.m.
Ovid_and_Flem wrote:
Andy Neuman wrote: In reply to Stampie: Checking Amazon now

Nah....just check your closet.

So far I've only uncovered fake mustaches, a mullet wig, horse head mask and a unicorn mask. No pimp suits yet, but my closet is pretty big.

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
9/13/16 7:05 p.m.
Says one of the earliest Minivan competitor. You were ahead of the game by 12 years.

I guess you're right, i've only owned the one i'm bringing for 10!

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
9/13/16 7:32 p.m.

In reply to Vigo:

This was 2004...

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
9/13/16 7:44 p.m.

Mine's just a boring old street van with a turbo and no exhaust, not very ambitious. I'm in it for the people!

pimpm3
pimpm3 Dork
9/13/16 8:23 p.m.

I have owned my minivan for 28 hours. I started pulling it apart to lower it this afternoon.

patgizz
patgizz UltimaDork
9/13/16 8:56 p.m.

Smack talk:

Your mom

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
9/14/16 8:39 a.m.

patgizz:

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk UberDork
9/14/16 10:12 a.m.
wheels777 wrote: Calvin "Fuzzy" Nelson is a Rookie.

Can we call him Fuzzy to his face?

TheV8Kid
TheV8Kid Reader
9/14/16 1:51 p.m.
DeadSkunk wrote:
wheels777 wrote: Calvin "Fuzzy" Nelson is a Rookie.

Can we call him Fuzzy to his face?

Yes you may.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
9/14/16 2:09 p.m.

In reply to TheV8Kid:

We'll refrain from hitting you with the Yo Mamma...jokes given the fact that yo mamma will likely be there

Stampie
Stampie HalfDork
9/14/16 4:28 p.m.
Andy Neuman wrote: In reply to Stampie: Checking Amazon now

I'm looking out for you. Saw this on the way home this evening. Perfect truck for you next year.

Sil80redtop
Sil80redtop HalfDork
9/14/16 5:08 p.m.

I guess I'll find out in two weeks, but what is a "1967 Lamborghini Fast?"

patgizz
patgizz UltimaDork
9/14/16 6:23 p.m.
Sil80redtop wrote: I guess I'll find out in two weeks, but what is a "1967 Lamborghini Fast?"

at this point, it's a studebaker.

paranoid_android74
paranoid_android74 SuperDork
9/14/16 6:42 p.m.

I'm rooting for the 86 Mercury XR4Ti

aussiesmg
aussiesmg MegaDork
9/14/16 8:49 p.m.

Razorback will be there will a Quasi teammate

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku PowerDork
9/14/16 8:51 p.m.

Glad to see you're going to make it. I'll be cheering from home.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg MegaDork
9/14/16 8:53 p.m.
Gearheadotaku wrote: Glad to see you're going to make it. I'll be cheering from home.

That Berking sucks

patgizz
patgizz UltimaDork
9/14/16 9:37 p.m.
aussiesmg wrote: Razorback will be there will a Quasi teammate

JmfnB?

MrJoshua
MrJoshua UltimaDork
9/14/16 9:40 p.m.
patgizz wrote:
aussiesmg wrote: Razorback will be there will a Quasi teammate

JmfnB?

You mean I can't call him Quasi-noshow any more?

aussiesmg
aussiesmg MegaDork
9/14/16 10:26 p.m.

That's the plan

dansxr2
dansxr2 Dork
9/15/16 4:50 p.m.

Any pics info on the SVT 1/9? I'm an old Exxy diehard.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg MegaDork
9/15/16 8:39 p.m.
dansxr2 wrote: Any pics info on the SVT 1/9? I'm an old Exxy diehard. </blockquote

Not going to make it I am afraid, substitute a SBC MGB

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/16/16 8:30 a.m.

I didn't notice any college team entered this year. Are they always late to arrive?

Stampie
Stampie HalfDork
9/16/16 8:39 a.m.

In reply to Ovid_and_Flem:

Have you ever known a college aged person to be early?

Sil80redtop
Sil80redtop HalfDork
9/16/16 9:17 a.m.
paranoid_android74 wrote: I'm rooting for the 86 Mercury XR4Ti

Merkur wasn't an option in the online registration system, so I went with the English spelling. You can still root for me though.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/16/16 9:41 a.m.
NordicSaab wrote: I heard Team Bolus & Snopes owes Fraulein Rust some beer... that's what I heard at least.

Need to get your ears checked. Been around loud pipes too long. I'm just showing up thirsty

NordicSaab
NordicSaab HalfDork
9/16/16 3:06 p.m.
Ovid_and_Flem wrote:
NordicSaab wrote: I heard Team Bolus & Snopes owes Fraulein Rust some beer... that's what I heard at least.

Need to get your ears checked. Been around loud pipes too long. I'm just showing up thirsty

Ya know, it wasn't so much the loud pipes, but the lifting of my transmission out of its home last night. I was thinking all of a sudden, I'm thirsty. Beer won is going to taste so good.

BTW, did I mention I did the stage 3 lightening(heavy rust) mod... you dont have a chance.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/16/16 3:38 p.m.

In reply to NordicSaab:

True, but I'm SWISS cheesing the 'glass beast! In your honor, of course. Or should I say "memory?"

NordicSaab
NordicSaab HalfDork
9/16/16 4:25 p.m.
Ovid_and_Flem wrote: In reply to NordicSaab: True, but I'm SWISS cheesing the 'glass beast! In your honor, of course. Or should I say "memory?"

Swiss, as in Switzerland? I dont get it... Saab is Sweed. Sweed cheese, now that's funny. But, I think you missed it.

The Guerman rust rocket is going to be unstopable!(i havnt bled the brakes yet)

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/16/16 4:41 p.m.

In reply to NordicSaab:

Switzerland, Sweden....all a buncha limp wristed Yurpeens. All look alike to me. Damn pacifists

When it comes to cheese (products) give me some good ol' Murican Velveeta

Stampie
Stampie HalfDork
9/16/16 4:47 p.m.

In reply to NordicSaab:

He's from Mississippi so you have to give him credit for getting the right continent.

NordicSaab
NordicSaab HalfDork
9/16/16 4:50 p.m.

In reply to Ovid_and_Flem:

Uhhh. The large division of Saab/Sweden builds some of the most sophisticated jet fighters in the world. Switzerland has mandatory military service and hasnt been successfully invaded, well, ever b/c of the rough terrain and well trained citizens.

This is Sweden and Switzerland... not France.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/16/16 4:53 p.m.

In reply to NordicSaab:

Why Saab's always get stuck in neutral, huh?

NordicSaab
NordicSaab HalfDork
9/16/16 4:54 p.m.
Ovid_and_Flem wrote: In reply to NordicSaab: Why Saab's always get stuck in neutral, huh?

Ok, i'll take the bait. Why do Saabs always get stuck in neutral?

bigben
bigben New Reader
9/22/16 5:28 p.m.

The list might need to be updated to remove the Opel GT. It's looking iffy. Last minute mods are giving me fits and I still haven't even got to the trailer and tow vehicle (Honda minivan) maintenance that's needed before a cross country trip.

patgizz
patgizz UltimaDork
9/22/16 5:39 p.m.
bigben wrote: The list might need to be updated to remove the Opel GT. It's looking iffy. Last minute mods are giving me fits and I still haven't even got to the trailer and tow vehicle (Honda minivan) maintenance that's needed before a cross country trip.

my car is in the air right now, with new brakes on one side of the rear awaiting amazon who didn't hold to their 2 day prime shipping and only got me one caliper on time.

at least i know it runs and drives, all i have to do is make it stop.

the tow truck is possibly going to be due for an oil change during the trip, but at this point who knows if i'll get to that. luckily my tuesday customers have left the country for 2 weeks so i don't have to go work on their house, so if any last minute BS crops up i should have a few hours to take care of it before the car gets tossed in the trailer and i leave wednesday morning bright and early. have to drop the in laws off at the airport(well, my wife does) at 6am wednesday or i'd just leave tuesday evening and check in a day early. would be nice to get a day of rest prior to racing.

also if anyone has an extra banquet ticket with nobody using it, i'll throw you a little cash for it so my kids can eat. they are 2 and 5, they can split a dinner and be good.

NordicSaab
NordicSaab HalfDork
9/22/16 6:21 p.m.

Anyone that has an "iffy" car should bring it anyway. There are many talented and idle hands thursday evening willing to lend a hand.

bigben
bigben New Reader
9/23/16 8:43 p.m.

Okay, you guys talked me into not throwing in the towel. I'll do my best to make it.

In response to patgizz: Assuming I make it I'll have an extra banquet ticket available. (I have to be at work Monday morning so I'll have to leave before the banquet.)

Now, is there anyone on here that lives close to the venue or between Gainsville and Orlando. We'll be arriving in the area Tuesday evening and like to be able to drop the car and trailer somewhere safe so we're not towing it all over the place.

Stampie
Stampie HalfDork
9/23/16 10:21 p.m.

I know last year on Sunday night before I was ready to quit. I'm glad everyone encouraged me to fight through it.

patgizz
patgizz UltimaDork
9/25/16 8:49 p.m.

No quitting at this point for any of you guys!

Car is loaded on trailer.

Stampie
Stampie Dork
9/25/16 9:06 p.m.

How's everyone looking? I don't want anyone to give up on their build but if any of you guys do hit a wall I have a back up. My DD Miata is Challenge qualified. If anyone truely can't get their car there you can borrow it. It's in Jacksonville about 1.5 hours away.

singleslammer
singleslammer UberDork
9/25/16 9:12 p.m.

Well, the car is half painted. The exhaust and such hasn't been touched. The intake needs to be put together. And now I think my radiator is leaking. Should be mostly finished by Wednesday at noon because that is when we are leaving.

NordicSaab
NordicSaab HalfDork
9/25/16 9:28 p.m.

I seem to be on track. Gave the car a proper shakedown tonight.

Stampie
Stampie Dork
9/26/16 9:44 a.m.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/26/16 9:55 a.m.

In reply to Stampie:

Woooohoooo....drags won't be cancelled...I'm gonna PWN your arse

Stampie
Stampie Dork
9/26/16 9:56 a.m.

In reply to Ovid_and_Flem:

Exactly my first thought. Second was woohoo I won't be sliding around the autocross on my slicks.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/26/16 10:00 a.m.

In reply to Stampie:

Slicks....no no no.

We're running CAM rules spec 200 TW tires. Oh I forget you're in that ricer car.

Stampie
Stampie Dork
9/26/16 10:20 a.m.

In reply to Ovid_and_Flem:

I'm sure your tires will be fine. Doubt you have the power to spin them anyway.

stan_d
stan_d Dork
9/26/16 10:23 a.m.

Just checked in the gateway grand park your trailer next to my truck. Taking a nap now.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/26/16 10:33 a.m.
Stampie wrote: In reply to Ovid_and_Flem: I'm sure your tires will be fine. Doubt you have the power to spin them anyway.

That's why they have the water... so anemic old clapped-out c4's can light up the tires. LOL

NordicSaab
NordicSaab HalfDork
9/26/16 11:25 a.m.
Ovid_and_Flem wrote:
Stampie wrote: In reply to Ovid_and_Flem: I'm sure your tires will be fine. Doubt you have the power to spin them anyway.

That's why they have the water... so anemic old clapped-out c4's can light up the tires. LOL

My 120hp bmw can light up the tires no problem.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/26/16 11:34 a.m.

In reply to NordicSaab:

That's because it's not a fat pig like this e36 m3 c4.

You got through 02 ready for Gainesville? What you've done with that car that started out as a rust bucket is amazing

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
9/26/16 11:42 a.m.

44 entries listed. I'll go out on a limb now and say that The Quest will not be in the bottom 3rd. This means that I have to finish #29 or better.

If more or less cars actually arrive, still betting for breaking out of the bottom 1/3rd.

I'm setting this as my reference to "success" or not.

Stampie
Stampie Dork
9/26/16 11:46 a.m.

I wonder how many of us are going into this saying "Please don't let me get beat by one of the minivans."

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/26/16 11:52 a.m.

In reply to JohnRW1621:

I'm like Rocky. I just want to go the distance. And then hook up with Adrian

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
9/26/16 11:54 a.m.

In reply to Stampie:

My prediction is that 33% will be beaten by my minivan!

Maybe even more when you factor in the turbo Caravans and APV GTP.

NordicSaab
NordicSaab HalfDork
9/26/16 12:27 p.m.
Ovid_and_Flem wrote: In reply to NordicSaab: That's because it's not a fat pig like this e36 m3 c4. You got through 02 ready for Gainesville? What you've done with that car that started out as a rust bucket is amazing

'02 is more ready than I ever expected. That car has impressed me more than ever i've ever worked on. I "felt" like it wanted to live every time I made a change to it.

paranoid_android74
paranoid_android74 SuperDork
9/26/16 1:02 p.m.
Sil80redtop wrote:
paranoid_android74 wrote: I'm rooting for the 86 Mercury XR4Ti

Merkur wasn't an option in the online registration system, so I went with the English spelling. You can still root for me though.

That works for me!

I thought maybe it was a typo.

Andy Neuman
Andy Neuman HalfDork
9/26/16 1:08 p.m.
Stampie wrote: I wonder how many of us are going into this saying "Please don't let me get beat by one of the minivans."

I told my friends I'm shooting for top 50 odds are looking good right now.

tb
tb HalfDork
9/26/16 1:33 p.m.

I always start out telling myself that I want to finish in the top half and I am usually right there in the middle, I think...

A lot of my placement will be decided by judges and therefore subjective. Anyone remember my e30 from a couple years ago? That interior was tame compared to the (probably very polarizing) scheme in this car...

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
9/26/16 1:58 p.m.

Here's the most up-to-date entry list. And there are still supposedly one or two teams that are going to register before the deadline tonight at midnight.

golfduke
golfduke HalfDork
9/26/16 2:12 p.m.

an OG Fiesta AND Justy in the challenge... I must get down here someday.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
9/26/16 3:35 p.m.

Pulled my work schedule, work friday, have Saturday off. I'm right around 2 hrs from gainesville. I might just come up and watch this E36 M3show.

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
9/26/16 4:51 p.m.

In reply to mndsm:

You won't be sorry.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
9/26/16 4:55 p.m.

In reply to mndsm:

Be sure to stop and say high when you get there.
I'll be the one with the race van. I guess you'll be the one with the beard.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/26/16 5:05 p.m.
NordicSaab wrote:
Ovid_and_Flem wrote: In reply to NordicSaab: That's because it's not a fat pig like this e36 m3 c4. You got through 02 ready for Gainesville? What you've done with that car that started out as a rust bucket is amazing

'02 is more ready than I ever expected. That car has impressed me more than ever i've ever worked on. I "felt" like it wanted to live every time I made a change to it.

Our piece of e36 M3 has been just the opposite. It seems PO'd everytime we solve one problem another on crops up. Like its mad were trying to resurrect it from its slumber.

Hacking away at her. Tonight is seat harness fabrication. Plus team member who was gonna do paint and body work finishing landed in hospital. Damn car is a curse....

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
9/26/16 5:12 p.m.
JohnRW1621 wrote: In reply to mndsm: Be sure to stop and say high when you get there. I'll be the one with the race van. I guess you'll be the one with the beard.

Yeah. I'm hard to miss.

cmcgregor
cmcgregor HalfDork
9/26/16 5:16 p.m.

In reply to golfduke:

Just let me know when you're ready to form a team

Circuit_Motorsports
Circuit_Motorsports New Reader
9/26/16 5:18 p.m.

We built an M3 track car. Mistake.

rich911s
rich911s New Reader
9/26/16 5:35 p.m.

Ed, I seem to remember plenty of beer at the event last year ... is there a rule against bringing a keg? We were thinking of setting up a keg tent this year - for the non-drivers of course! Let us know if it's a non-starter before I slap down a deposit.

bigben
bigben New Reader
9/27/16 12:18 a.m.
Andy Neuman wrote:
Stampie wrote: I wonder how many of us are going into this saying "Please don't let me get beat by one of the minivans."

I told my friends I'm shooting for top 50 odds are looking good right now.

I think I've got a shot at not being last as long as I can get someone else to take a couple runs in my car. There's going to be experienced guest drivers this year right?

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
9/27/16 4:16 a.m.

It's probably a good question, "who are this years pro drivers?"
More so, which one is best experienced at flogging a fwd, 4,000+ lb minivan around the dance floor?

petegossett
petegossett UltimaDork
9/27/16 5:49 a.m.

In reply to JohnRW1621:

I'm not a pro-driver, but otherwise fit that description.

Danny Shields
Danny Shields Reader
9/27/16 6:50 a.m.

In reply to JohnRW1621:

I will be there to serve as a pro driver, and would be happy to flog your van hard enough to dazzle soccer moms everywhere.

For those new to the Challenge, I was the original "pro driver" for the event starting with the $1500 Challenge in 1999. I have manhandled a fascinating array of rescued project cars over the years. I enjoy adapting quickly to cars that don't necessarily handle like a new Porsche. If you trust me with your vehicle, I will strive to bring it back in one piece, and generate the best possible score for you.

FWIW, my SCCA Nationals trophies were earned in a MG Midget, two Mustang 5.0s, a Rabbit, two Jettas, a Civic Si, an MR2, two MX6's, three Plymouth Neon ACRs, a Corvette and a Boxster S.

As for minivans experience, my Dodge Caravan daily driver, purchased new, will probably pass the 200K mile mark on the trip to Gainesville.

Danny

n8
n8 New Reader
9/27/16 9:50 a.m.

In reply to rich911s:

Already campaigning for Challenger's Choice I see...

spin_out
spin_out HalfDork
9/27/16 10:06 a.m.

Danny, Pencil us in on your dance card. Possibly for all of our runs, since Tod burned his leg. Though he refuses to admit he is hurt, once the skin falls off it might change his mind. Just sayin'.

The nice thing about Challenge cars is that it's impossible to do more the $2,000 worth of damage. (It's kind of true.)

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
9/27/16 10:43 a.m.

In reply to Danny Shields:

Okay Danny, you're my man.
You put some impressive times on last year's Q45!

You gotta love it when the credentials read, "blah blah blah...and I'm arriving in a high mileage Caravan."

I've already set a goal for us that we have to beat 1/3 of the other cars.

Flog that Dodge of yours hard on the way too. It'll be a good time to practice.

golfduke
golfduke HalfDork
9/27/16 12:13 p.m.
cmcgregor wrote: In reply to golfduke: Just let me know when you're ready to form a team

We could absolutely do this. We have a year to prepare, I have a garage, we live <1 hour apart, and we have a cornucopia of cheap crapcans in our area!

Only issue is you'll be on dad-duty pretty heavy for the next 1-2 years... Source: me, with a 7 year old.

We should explore this more however.

Ed Higginbotham
Ed Higginbotham Associate Editor
9/27/16 12:43 p.m.

In reply to rich911s:

A few beers shared among friends is probably okay if it's kept low-key, but a keg tent (or just a keg) would not be cool with the Best Western, because it could be viewed as outside catering and that would have to be prearranged (and paid for) with the hotel.

Danny Shields
Danny Shields Reader
9/27/16 12:54 p.m.
wheels777 wrote:
JohnRW1621 wrote: It's probably a good question, "who are this years pro drivers?" More so, which one is best experienced at flogging a fwd, 4,000+ lb minivan around the dance floor?

There are mini-vans that weigh more than 4000#????? Whoa! And I thought I just didn't like them because of the way they look!!!

I remember when Warren Mosler of Consulier fame built a full-size Dodge van from carbon fiber. Seems like it weighed about the same as a Miata. Does anyone know what ever happened to it?

Danny Shields
Danny Shields Reader
9/27/16 1:06 p.m.
spin_out wrote: Danny, Pencil us in on your dance card. Possibly for all of our runs, since Tod burned his leg. Though he refuses to admit he is hurt, once the skin falls off it might change his mind. Just sayin'. The nice thing about Challenge cars is that it's impossible to do more the $2,000 worth of damage. (It's kind of true.)

Ouch! Sorry to hear about Tod. Burns can really hurt, as you know. Hopefully it isn't too bad, if he is shrugging it off. You know I will help any way I can. I look forward to seeing if I can get a good time and not Spin Out.

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