C8 Corvette Reveal: What Do You Expect?

We’re heard the hype and seen the fanfare: This coming Thursday, Chevrolet will take the wraps off the all-new C8 Corvette. Our own J.G. Pasterjak will be there in person. 

So, what do you think that we’ll see? Did the disguised prototypes give it away, or did Chevy send us on a wild goose chase? And even though we’re all about performance, do you think it will be a timeless design or simply something that gets the job done? Will we miss the front-engine layout? 

Look for updates from J.G., ideally something live assuming he’s not signing up for a new one or raiding the shrimp cocktails.

 

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Mike
Mike SuperDork
7/16/19 8:19 a.m.

I'm old enough to have seen a few Corvette reveals.

We'll learn that the new Corvette finally has an interior quality, comfort and sophistication that allow it to be an effective competitor to its European rivals. Gone are the economy parts bin trim and squeaky build quality. That it finally is a total package, with a combination of the long-haul comfort it has been lacking with the sort of performance that will finally make Stuttgart and even Modena wake up and take notice.

My hope is that they price it such that middle-class Americans have a chance to buy it. I like Corvettes. Dad had a '53, and always talked about getting a '64. I grew up with the fandom, and as much as I talk about European brands, I would love to spec out a Vette just for me one day. Make mine any color, so long as it's white.

 

(Edits- add final para and fix some language in first)

Stampie
Stampie PowerDork
7/16/19 8:23 a.m.

I just want smooth design and not gaudy trim that looks like they bought it at Pep boys. 

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
7/16/19 8:36 a.m.

The spy shot makes it look like just another generic mid-engined supercar. I imagine I will have a tough time figuring out whether I am looking at a Ferrari, a McLaren or the new Corvette when I eventually see one in the wild. Although, I do not have much interest in such cars, I do hope that this new Vette is good enough in performance/price/build quality to be a real contender in the market.

StuntmanMike
StuntmanMike New Reader
7/16/19 8:39 a.m.

I would expect it to be a lot more expensive, but that wouldn't make sense because they would alienate most of their base. I also expect performance to be even higher, and that old school Corvette guys will still hate on it. That's what happened for every new generation that I've been around for. Each model gets significantly better but people always complain, I think because the new model instantly outdates whatever they are driving.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
7/16/19 9:05 a.m.
Mike said:
We'll learn that the new Corvette finally has an interior quality, comfort and sophistication that allow it to be an effective competitor to its European rivals. Gone are the economy parts bin trim and squeaky build quality. That it finally is a total package, with a combination of the long-haul comfort it has been lacking with the sort of performance that will finally make Stuttgart and even Modena wake up and take notice.

This has been said at every Corvette launch since the C4, and within 5 mins of it being launched people realize it's not true and start talking about how the NEXT Corvette will be these things.

That's not to knock any of them, they are brilliant vehicles for the price point.  I just hope that it's a little more restrained in the details than the C7.  The C6 looked and still looks clean.  To me the C7 looks like the Designers should have put down their pencils and stepped away six months earlier.  The basic shape is so so right, but there is just too much extraneous detail that detracts from the look.  I also hope it looks somehow 'American' and not just another cookie-cutter mid engined supercar. 

I just hope they are priced like and will depreciate like prior Corvette's devil

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
7/16/19 9:17 a.m.
Adrian_Thompson said:

cookie-cutter mid engined supercar. 

Sorry, I just find this particular statement hilarious. 

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
7/16/19 9:31 a.m.

I think, or at least hope, there's a lot of padding under that camo wrap and it looks better and more Corvette-like than we might've guessed. I have no problem with a mid-engined Corvette as long as the price doesn't fly up because of it, although I don't have enough optimism to think it won't.

It's true that a lot of mid-engined supercars have a similar shape, that's the result of aerodynamic and packaging optimizations. They'll have to carry over Corvette styling hints everywhere they can to make the Corvette stand out from the others.

Also, either that pic of JG is quite old, or he should start Grassroots Mangroomingsports laugh

The0retical
The0retical UberDork
7/16/19 9:42 a.m.
z31maniac said:
Adrian_Thompson said:

cookie-cutter mid engined supercar. 

Sorry, I just find this particular statement hilarious. 

I'd argue if it's anywhere near or over $100k ($90k plus for the base model for the sake of argument) that's exactly what it is.

I expect a superb car for it's era as every Corvette has been since inception. Hopefully not moving much beyond $70k.

Not that I can afford one new anyway, but I'd like to own a new one eventually. A huge increase in price makes that less likely as it opens a lot of other options up.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve MegaDork
7/16/19 9:50 a.m.

The Corvette will not have a great interior that rivals the Germans. It will not have a smooth, clean exterior that looks great from every angle. These are not Corvette hallmarks, and have you seen how poorly the new NSX is selling? It has all that and no one wants it. Why? Because it doesn't stir emotion and isn't a beast on the track. 

The C8 will adhere to the long-standing Corvette mantra: performance that every other manufacturer wishes they could match for the price. GM can make some really powerful V8 motors and they know how to make a car handle, the mid-engine layout will let them overcome the limitations of a front-engine car. It will look sleek and fast and aggressive, but there will be some ungainly angles and some plastic bits added on. The interior will be a big improvement, but it won't be an Aston Martin in there. The performance will be amazing, with the base model easily matching the old ZR1 at the 'Ring, and the new performance models going even faster.   

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett MegaDork
7/16/19 9:57 a.m.

Tacky airbrushed hood murals. 

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy UltimaDork
7/16/19 10:03 a.m.
Mike said:

 That it finally is a total package, with a combination of the long-haul comfort it has been lacking with the sort of performance that will finally make Stuttgart and even Modena wake up and take notice.

 

The folks in Europe will never take notice of the Corvette because it's a Corvette. No matter how good it gets, it will never have the cachet of a European brand in Europe. 

Spoolpigeon
Spoolpigeon PowerDork
7/16/19 10:06 a.m.

I expect massive amounts of boomers cashing in their 401ks. 

I also expect a bunch of Fudds proclaiming that it’s not a “real” vette because the engine isn’t in the front. 

STM317
STM317 UltraDork
7/16/19 10:59 a.m.

Questionable aesthetics aside, a 450-500hp mid-engine car that starts around $70-75k would be unequaled in the marketplace and should be a screaming performance bargain.

It's twice the power of a base Cayman or Alfa 4C for the same money.

It's similar performance specs to an Audi R8, or Huracan for half the price.

And it can be serviced at any GM dealer in most any small town.

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku UltimaDork
7/16/19 11:06 a.m.

I expect great performance, ugly styling, a 6 figure price tag and a short life before slow sales end it.

Never liked the mid engine Corvette idea even though it's been thrown around since the late 60s.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
7/16/19 11:15 a.m.

In reply to Gearheadotaku :

I get what you’re saying, but sincerely hope you’re wrong. 

JimS
JimS Reader
7/16/19 11:38 a.m.

Mid-engine cars don't have to have radical gaudy styling like most super cars. Although not considered super cars the Boxster and Cayman have clean classic styling. But I guess when you're paying super car  money you want to stand out in a crowd. 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
7/16/19 11:45 a.m.
The0retical said:
z31maniac said:
Adrian_Thompson said:

cookie-cutter mid engined supercar. 

Sorry, I just find this particular statement hilarious. 

I'd argue if it's anywhere near or over $100k ($90k plus for the base model for the sake of argument) that's exactly what it is.

I expect a superb car for it's era as every Corvette has been since inception. Hopefully not moving much beyond $70k.

Not that I can afford one new anyway, but I'd like to own a new one eventually. A huge increase in price makes that less likely as it opens a lot of other options up.

"cookie-cutter" "supercar"

That's what I found amusing. 

GTXVette
GTXVette UltraDork
7/16/19 1:31 p.m.

WoW ,

            That looks Just Like .......

                                                         My Challenge Car.,

Lucius
Lucius New Reader
7/16/19 4:06 p.m.

I suspect it’ll look cool, perform well, still have plastic bits, & be too expensive for me to buy in the next 15 years. Somehow Monster drinking, tank top wearing guys can afford them - especially the yellow ones...

Any word about factory backed racing for these?

My dad took me on a tour of the plant in Bowling Green to see the C4 being built - he died this past Christmas night; I suspect I’ll go see these being made and think about how he instilled a love of cars in me from a young age...

Love the retro JG pic, looking forward to hearing what’s on the GM buffet tomorrow.

infinitenexus
infinitenexus New Reader
7/16/19 4:30 p.m.

Excellent performance, ugly styling, and a cheap plastic interior.  Hopefully they keep the price down in Corvette territory.  I imagine there's going to be a lot of negative press when it comes out, because it'll be ugly and mid engined.  I'm personally excited for the mid engine switch, but I know a lot of people are going to throw a fit about it.

te72
te72 Reader
7/17/19 12:25 a.m.

I expect track records to start being challenged, seems the thing to do these days.

 

...and I couldn't be happier. Chevy is finally putting a chassis that can keep up with the engine in the Vette. Another thing I love? The Corvette depreciation cycle, everybody gets to move up a peg, those C5's are going to become an absolute bargain, and C6's will move into "suddenly feel like I should buy one" territory. I suspect C7's will still be a bit pricey, as faster C6's are currently.

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltimaDork
7/17/19 2:31 a.m.

There will be a bitch from everybody about something they don’t like. And just not the whole damn thing.

Thats what I expect.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
7/17/19 6:01 a.m.

The camo wrapped body reminds me of the turbo Lotus from the 80s. That's not bad exactly, but I'm not sure it the look they're shooting for.

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
7/17/19 6:07 a.m.

What I want is for them to continue to make a proper crap version with a mid tier GM interior and a base engine that's a mass produced 400hp truck motor. I want it to be cheap enough that they sell volume. This will give them room to produce 800hp variants that light the world on fire for half of what they would cost from the prestige manufacturers. 

What I think I'm going to see is a base car that is priced to compete with the GT4 Cayman at 95k instead of the base Cayman at 55k. 

Samebutdifferent
Samebutdifferent New Reader
7/17/19 9:00 a.m.

I expect the initial version will be a slight performance upgrade from the current C7 base model yet priced to be with in the reach of the typical Corvette buyer to encourage trade ups.  The first year will sell out quickly because - first year.  We will see higher performance versions sooner than later so as to not make the same mistake as the Fiero and to keep people interested.  Interior will continue to be a disappointment because that's where you can spend a lot of money and it quickly escalates out of control cost wise with no performance gain.

What I would like to see is a real difference between performance and a luxury interiors.  Take a cue from the other manufactures and offer up a "real" light weight, track focused interior option when the higher performance versions come out.  The inside should match the out side in terms of fit for purpose ad there should be a notable weight savings to boot.  If a true luxury interior is offered, it should be very well appointed to silence the pundits.  I doubt we will see either of those options however.

Much has been speculated on the power train but chances are it will be an upgraded version of the current v8 tuned to around 470-485hp (Just a guess on my part).  Subsequent performance versions will be fun to watch as the power plant of choice will no doubt change to something quite a bit different.

Which brings us to the question, what about the Camaro?  Rumors are rampant about discontinuing the Camaro again.  It's no secret the latest version of the Camaro are nearly as good as the Corvette which I'm sure irritates Corvette owners to no end.  However, I would think the people who really want a lower cost, front engine, rear wheel drive sports car would naturally consider the Camaro now that the two are totally different platforms.  I believe GM is waiting to see sales numbers and how people react to the new Corvette before making the call on the fate of the Camaro.

For over 50 years, the Camaro and Corvette have played in roughly the same space and this change is long overdue.  My hope is they spend the money to get it right and address the short comings which have plagued the Corvette for years; interiors, workmanship, ride, handling, etc. and finally put all that to rest.  Wishful thinking?  I think so, but at least they will have the mid engine monkey off their back and can focus on the next set of complaints.

And to echo the others, everyone will have an opinion and not everyone will be happy with the 8th generation for one reason or another.  Lets see if they can get closer to hitting the mark this time.

TVR Scott
TVR Scott HalfDork
7/17/19 9:05 a.m.

What about the suspension?  Seems like it might be time for something a bit more mainstream than transverse leaf springs. 

After reading about JG tearing apart his vette and totally redoing the suspension in coil-overs, it seems like the stock system is a bit dated and non-tunable.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/17/19 9:15 a.m.

Yeah, good point about the Camaro: Does a mid-engined Corvette give the Camaro a renewed future? 

Samebutdifferent
Samebutdifferent New Reader
7/17/19 9:30 a.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

I think so.  The Mustang continues to do well and I believe it's because the exclusive mid engine GT makes this the only option for most Ford people.  The mid engine Corvette will not have that level of exclusivity but it will direct customers to the Camaro for different reasons.  Discontinuing the Camaro simply hands Ford and Dodge those customers.  So, I have a hard time believing GM with discontinue the Camaro for that reason.

jharry3
jharry3 HalfDork
7/17/19 9:36 a.m.

IMO Chevrolet should have gone mid-engine 25 years or 30 years ago.     

And I will never own one mostly because I think all that power is a waste on the street and a temptation that would no doubt get me arrested for reckless operation/speeding again. 

Once, in 1979, in my very fast 65 Mustang, was enough.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
7/17/19 9:48 a.m.

The idea of having track and luxury interior options is a good one. Want a luxury interior? Pay for it so everyone else doesn't have to. Don't? Well it's light and cheap so quityerbitchin.

The composite leafs aren't tunable but they are also light and cheap...perhaps having bolt-on shock tower options would allow lower-end models to have the leafs with lighter shock towers and higher-end models to have coilovers with the beefy shock towers required. That would also make the car more repairable and give GM a factory upgrade option to sell (maybe CF shock towers for the ZR1?).

Samebutdifferent
Samebutdifferent New Reader
7/17/19 10:37 a.m.

In reply to TVR Scott :

Given the new platform, I would think the suspension will be completely new and more in line with what we have seen in other the mid engine cars.  Hopefully this will include some ability to tune to personal preferences or conditions but I have a feeling that will be electronically controlled with a limited number of settings to choose from.  Now, if they offered the ability to mix and match various elements such as steering feel and suspension settings, that would be nice.

Samebutdifferent
Samebutdifferent New Reader
7/17/19 10:45 a.m.

In reply to jharry3 :

I fully agree and based on the historical evidence, it is clear that would have happened if other, more compelling events hadn't occurred at just the wrong time.

We will look back on this event as one of the most significant events in the long history of the Corvette and possibly other vehicles with in the GM stable.  It's a bold move but one that is long over due.  I just hope people view it as such and fully embrace the change.  But there will be those who will complain...

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/17/19 12:18 p.m.

And I'm reading about the forthcoming mid-engined Corvette while eating lunch.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/17/19 12:29 p.m.

And a few related thoughts about the Camaro:

Would Chevy kill their NASCAR contender?

And what do we think about the Camaro's current face?

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/17/19 12:30 p.m.

Although looks like the Camaro will get a new nose for 2020. From their media site:

The new Camaro SS front-end appearance is based on the distinctive design of the Camaro Shock show vehicle that debuted last fall at the SEMA Show. The SS now features a repositioned bowtie emblem in the upper grille and a body-color bar between the upper and lower grilles.

“Customers spoke, and we listened,” said Steve Majoros, director of Chevrolet passenger car and crossover marketing. “The overwhelmingly positive reaction to the Shock’s stylized design helped prompt its transition from concept to production.”

Torkel
Torkel Reader
7/17/19 12:39 p.m.

Remember folks: now day, the gear heads of Europe are not at all as cold towards the Corvette as they used to be. You see them on track days and in racing series all the time. Sure, the snobby folks that buy brand new Porsches and Ferraris might not think much of them, but they are mostly not really interested in ANY sports car in truth, but rather something to look cool in (end rant).

I think (and hope) this is a car that makes the car manufacturers of Europe nervous. I think this will perform in line with the best of them, both in a straight line and around a road course, but still be in significantly cheaper. Sure, it will still be too expensive for the average Joe, but cheap enough for us to start thinking: "When it is 4 or 5 years old, maaayybe?"

I also think it will come with an interior full of cheap, rattling plastic parts that doesn't really fit together. It takes years, years and more years for a car manufacturer to grow the knowledge base and skills needed to put together an interior in the class of Volvo or BMW and since GM obviously didn't have it figured out 2018... But that is OK, because this one will be bought by enthusiasts looking for a strong performing drivers car, not just a penis extension to transport anorectic models in.

Ransom
Ransom PowerDork
7/17/19 12:51 p.m.
mazdeuce - Seth said:

What I think I'm going to see is a base car that is priced to compete with the GT4 Cayman at 95k instead of the base Cayman at 55k. 

That's a big one in a nutshell, isn't it? Is it going to be a (relatively) affordable mid-engine exotic that they can sell a bunch of, opening that type of car up to folks who think it's neat but never had that chance? Or will they feel the need to pursue the premium/halo/prestige/exclusivity angle that becomes available with that configuration? Apart from the higher margins, will they decide that in order to actually capture the prestige that they can't price it in line with front-engine Corvettes without damaging the cachet?

Ransom
Ransom PowerDork
7/17/19 12:54 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

And a few related thoughts about the Camaro:

Would Chevy kill their NASCAR contender?

I'm behind on NASCAR rules, but is there nothing else that GM could plug into that void? And I'd have to guess that NASCAR would be willing to shuffle rules a bit to keep them around if they axe the Camaro. Wouldn't they?

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/17/19 1:04 p.m.
Ransom said:
David S. Wallens said:

And a few related thoughts about the Camaro:

Would Chevy kill their NASCAR contender?

I'm behind on NASCAR rules, but is there nothing else that GM could plug into that void? And I'd have to guess that NASCAR would be willing to shuffle rules a bit to keep them around if they axe the Camaro. Wouldn't they?

I'm just thinking more about the marketing. After years of racing cars "based" on unforgettable front-drive sedans, NASCAR finally features enthusiast cars across the board: Camaro v Mustang v Supra. Will that be a one-year-only thing? 

Samebutdifferent
Samebutdifferent New Reader
7/17/19 1:14 p.m.

In reply to Torkel :

To quote my wife when she sees someone driving a really expensive sports car or a big lifted truck, "Sorry about your penis".

MB, BMW, Volvo and others all have wonderful interiors that create a very desirable driving experience.  The sound of the door closing, the lack of loose plastic flapping about while you are driving are all things that create a  very satisfying experience.  That feel you get when you sit behind the wheel for the first time is important and can not be augmented with digital gadgets and shouldn't be compromised by ergonomic atrocities (Read power window switch and impossibly low roof line for getting into the Pontiac Solstice GXP for example).  But I digress...

This thread is about what we expect and has also morphed into what we would like to see (which is a good thing).  I for one am trying to keep my expectations low to simply give GM the time it needs to refine a new platform.  Through our comments and arm chair assessments, we can influence design choices (See Camaro dialog above) for the better.  This feed back can also backfire as in "Careful what you ask for because you just might get it". (See latest Chevy HD pickups - Design based on user feed back, Really???)

Let's hope for a reasonably priced, mid engine layout with enough power to induce the required giggles and enough quality control to keep the mandatory plastic bits from detracting our focus from the glorious sounds behind out head.  I for one am tired of the constant quality complaints so this is the time to address it head on IMHO.

Rant over...

 

Samebutdifferent
Samebutdifferent New Reader
7/17/19 1:21 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

When the front wheel drive cars were thrown into the mix, I completely lost interest and haven't been back sense.  I was however happy to see the pony cars back front and center.  But it is after all just the skin anymore.  The underlining tube chassis is still the same more or less.  Wow, have I gotten cynical...

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
7/17/19 1:52 p.m.
Samebutdifferent said:

In reply to David S. Wallens :

When the front wheel drive cars were thrown into the mix, I completely lost interest and haven't been back sense.  I was however happy to see the pony cars back front and center.  But it is after all just the skin anymore.  The underlining tube chassis is still the same more or less.  Wow, have I gotten cynical...

You're right. I mean, honestly, if they drop the Camero name they could slap Silvarado stickers on the body that NASCAR gives them. What would it matter? Frankly, as a Mustang fan, I hate seeing the name on nascar stuff.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe UberDork
7/17/19 3:25 p.m.
Brett_Murphy said:
Mike said:

 That it finally is a total package, with a combination of the long-haul comfort it has been lacking with the sort of performance that will finally make Stuttgart and even Modena wake up and take notice.

 

The folks in Europe will never take notice of the Corvette because it's a Corvette. No matter how good it gets, it will never have the cachet of a European brand in Europe. 

Same thing with the Viper even though it mops the floor with them dollar for dollar. 

Personal Opinion. 

87K base Well optioned around 96K.  

No manual in the first year.   

~640HP give or take.   

Big imporvment in interior that is inline with the price.   

BIg dollar one coming called the Zora. 

akamcfly
akamcfly Dork
7/17/19 4:30 p.m.

I expect the engine/transaxle to be transverse mounted. I expect that to upset people. 

Kreb
Kreb UberDork
7/17/19 4:35 p.m.

I've been on record for thinking that the configuration change is a bad idea, but since GM hasn't made me product development head, I guess that I'll have to grapple with reality.....

I want it to be a raging bloody success, but I expect things to go poorly. They'll screw up a few things that create poor word-of-mouth. The early adopters will be into it, and sales will be OK until it's found that traditional Corvette owners don't like it, while the Foreign car crowd looks down their noses at it. 

Boy do I hope that I'm wrong

BlueInGreen - Jon
BlueInGreen - Jon SuperDork
7/17/19 5:47 p.m.

I hear they have a flat bottomed steering wheel...

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
7/17/19 5:52 p.m.

Look no further than our own C8 Steering Wheel thread to see how the rest of it will go. 

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
7/17/19 5:58 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

And a few related thoughts about the Camaro:

Would Chevy kill their NASCAR contender?

And what do we think about the Camaro's current face?

That front end reminds me of the new hideous Silverado. 

BlueInGreen - Jon
BlueInGreen - Jon SuperDork
7/17/19 5:59 p.m.

On a serious note, I know a guy who is really really excited about it, enough so that he’s talking about selling his Viper to get one.

I’ve also heard the dual clutch trans shifts absurdly quick.

Even all camouflaged they look pretty wicked going down the road. It’s fun living near the proving grounds.

poopshovel again
poopshovel again MegaDork
7/17/19 6:03 p.m.

I expect haters, doubters, and dreamers.

So far, you shiny happy people have not disappointed.

I also expect you’ll be able to drive 5 miles to find parts/service for one. 5 EXCRUCIATING, MISERABLE MILES, PLAGUED WITH DEAFENING SQUEAKS AND RATTLES NOT FOUND IN ANY INHERENTLY SUPERIOR EUROPEAN PRODUCT THAT COSTS 3X AS MUCH.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
7/17/19 6:32 p.m.

I'm really going in with almost no expectations. Since the C5, Corvettes have been fairly universally good from a performance perspective, if a little lacking in refinement and sophistication. but, honestly, refinement and sophistication don't matter to me as much as lap times when I think about Corvettes. I kind of perceive them as less of a product and more of a palette to paint your own final perfect product with. Hopefully the C8 continues that tradition. Personally, i kind of feel like the C5 and C6 is the sweet spot for Corvettes at the moment as they offer a lot of performance for relatively little money and complexity. 

I guess ultimately I care less about any new Corvette being "world class" as I do about it being fast and gnarly. Or at least having the potential to be fast and gnarly. 

And you guys will probably get a better look at it on the live feed than I will at the event. If I get close enough I'll go live, so keep an eye on GRM Facebook. If it gets boring I'll just streak it or something.

poopshovel again
poopshovel again MegaDork
7/17/19 6:48 p.m.

In reply to JG Pasterjak :

This is the “BMW” version of the words my “GM” fingers were trying to type.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy UltimaDork
7/17/19 7:49 p.m.
JG Pasterjak said:

If it gets boring I'll just streak it or something.

I'm now completely unsure if I should tune into the Facebook feed or not. wink

Samebutdifferent
Samebutdifferent New Reader
7/17/19 7:50 p.m.
poopshovel again said:

In reply to JG Pasterjak :

This is the “BMW” version of the words my “GM” fingers were trying to type.

^^^  Personally, I have no problem with that...  I mean seriously, how can you argue with that logic?

But then again, I'm part of the dreamer crowd...  Tempered expectations but still hopeful.  

te72
te72 Reader
7/17/19 11:42 p.m.

Ok, so I have an NB Miata that I tend to daily. It is a really fun car to play around in, and downright quick around the cones or out in the mountains and canyons. Is it comfortable? Not especially. Is it well built? Eh... it's not a turd, if I'm being polite.

 

My point is, if you love the performance and styling, but wish it had a nicer interior, save up the $10-20k, take it to a high end custom upholstery shop, and go nuts. The things I've seen in Hot Rod over the years, I only wish my Supra project had such a nice interior...

akamcfly
akamcfly Dork
7/18/19 4:50 a.m.

I have a soft spot in my heart (or is it the top of my head?) for the C4 thanks to this forum. That soft spot makes the C8 virtually irrelevant to me. However I'm looking forward to the reveal because I just want to see it. Rip the band-aid off already, hype monkeys!

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
7/18/19 9:30 a.m.

Today is the day right? After whatever live streaming of Fbook that I won't see, hopefully someone will update this thread with some pics.

Stampie
Stampie PowerDork
7/18/19 9:43 a.m.

It's telling that we now have a three page thread on this car's reveal and it hasn't even been revealed yet. I can't remember any other car that's caused that much discussion on it's reveal. 

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
7/18/19 9:46 a.m.

I just realized that the big reveal is for some reason at 11pm. I guess I'll see the pics tomorrow. I don't care nearly enough to tune in that late at night.

I just hope the actual wheels are not flattened on the bottoms like the steering wheel.wink

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
7/18/19 10:06 a.m.

Wouldn't it be great if the made it look like a Fiero? 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
7/18/19 10:08 a.m.
Stampie said:

It's telling that we now have a three page thread on this car's reveal and it hasn't even been revealed yet. I can't remember any other car that's caused that much discussion on it's reveal. 

The Zupra?

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt PowerDork
7/18/19 10:12 a.m.
JG Pasterjak said:

If it gets boring I'll just streak it or something.

This is the second time you've raised that possibility. Now I'm wondering if this event is going to be the most unforgettable car introduction so far this century for all the wrong reasons.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
7/18/19 10:24 a.m.
MadScientistMatt said:
JG Pasterjak said:

If it gets boring I'll just streak it or something.

This is the second time you've raised that possibility. Now I'm wondering if this event is going to be the most unforgettable car introduction so far this century for all the wrong reasons.

We'll know what's gonna happen if we see him start the live stream in that robe from the Supra episode.

Tony Sestito
Tony Sestito PowerDork
7/18/19 10:26 a.m.
T.J. said:

I just hope the actual wheels are not flattened on the bottoms like the steering wheel.wink

They will just have to steal them from the last gen Silverado.

DrBoost
DrBoost MegaDork
7/18/19 11:24 a.m.

What do i expect? I expect another hideously ugly design. I expect to see another case where the ‘designers’ don’t know when they are done designing. 

Current GM styling is the equivalent of typing in all caps. 

Spoolpigeon
Spoolpigeon PowerDork
7/18/19 11:41 a.m.

Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
7/18/19 11:42 a.m.

I expect Mahk to give me the honest opinion.

 

bumpsteer
bumpsteer New Reader
7/18/19 11:45 a.m.

Having seen the mules running around town a lot more lately, I am really hoping that the car has some really good camo hiding some sexy lines. I am also hoping that the base car comes in around C7 Z06 pricing and performance, so that it does not break the chain of trickle-down vettenomics by being too expensive for C7 owners to upgrade. 

However I expect none of my hopes to be realized. It'll probably be a $90-100k starting price for the base car, with performance variants nearing $200k. This car will follow 911 pricing, not 718 pricing.  I'd expect somewhere around 3450lb and 480hp for the base car.  It'll have a very busy, none-too-attractive design (my grandfather, an avid Corvette fan, already thinks the C7 has "too much crap going on with the body." I expect this car to be even more busy.), with an interior no better than the C7, and the DCT will be the only transmission offered at all. In 2016 less than a quarter of all Corvettes sold had a clutch pedal. It's all about profit and emissions cert with a new transmission after the dev costs of the DCT is not going to fly with the penny-pinchers. I also fully expect some of them to catch fire in true "midengine sports car" fashion. 

An interesting note is that of the cars I've seen on the road, some have relatively tiny brakes behind those 20" wheels and some have pie-plates filling up those same wheels and less camo covering the front inlets, which leads me to think that we might get a base and a Z51 at launch. 

 

ebelements
ebelements New Reader
7/18/19 12:08 p.m.

I'm sure it'll be $100k because I just recently decided that  around my 40th I'm going to find a reasonable lease on a manual vette (which actually exist somehow) and see if I can year round daily it.  Or maybe I won't and I'll use the C8 as an excuse. Whatever. To be honest, I find profound joy that GM is breaking their own rules and building something wild in a time when it makes more sense to funnel all that development money into building an actual high-quality CUV/SUV.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
7/18/19 12:20 p.m.

I expect it to look like an American Ferrari. And not necessarily in a  good way 

STM317
STM317 UltraDork
7/18/19 1:06 p.m.

I'd kind of be surprised if pricing is announced tonight, as reveals are usually a bit guarded with specific details while laying the hype on thick. However, I'd also be surprised if the base car ends up being much more than $70k. A base price increase to $70k would be a 27% price jump. Much more than that starts to price out a lot of people. I've read multiple reports from within GM that claim it would be affordable to current Corvette buyers.

spacecadet
spacecadet Dork
7/18/19 2:11 p.m.

I am hoping it comes out to rave reviews, sells super well and it makes all the C5's and C6 GS even cheaper. This is what I expect/hope for. 

GM needs this car to do well or they're "in trouble" this is a solid profit center and brand loyalty and they need a solid boost from it with camaro sales in the trash and the new Silverado sales falling short of expectations.  

Kreb
Kreb UberDork
7/18/19 2:22 p.m.
poopshovel again said:

In reply to JG Pasterjak :

This is the “BMW” version of the words my “GM” fingers were trying to type.

I know it's a Taledega Nights reference and I should really try and have a sense of humor, but misquoting historical figures always bugs me.

Samebutdifferent
Samebutdifferent New Reader
7/18/19 2:38 p.m.

You mean to tell me Eleanor Roosevelt isn't the bad ass I thought she was...  Now I'm crushed. 

Next you're going to tell me you can't believe everything you read on the internet... 

WHAT!?  That's true too?  surprise

At least the new Supra doesn't use BMW parts...

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise HalfDork
7/18/19 3:42 p.m.

Interior

 

Kreb
Kreb UberDork
7/18/19 5:39 p.m.
Samebutdifferent said:

You mean to tell me Eleanor Roosevelt isn't the bad ass I thought she was...  Now I'm crushed. 

 

"Ellie" as I prefer to call Mrs. Roosevelt, has dope drifting skills, Yo.  

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
7/18/19 5:42 p.m.
mr2s2000elise said:

Interior

 

Well, all those buttons on the passenger side of the console is...........interesting?

Kreb
Kreb UberDork
7/18/19 5:49 p.m.

I'll take a two-year old GT interior in every way except display size. 

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise HalfDork
7/18/19 7:59 p.m.

Exterior

 

 

 

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
7/18/19 8:04 p.m.

It looks pretty cool. Given the history of the Corvette back to the cerv prototypes, this seems logical. I'll never afford one of these ones, but it should be pretty interesting to see the power progression.  

pimpm3
pimpm3 UltraDork
7/18/19 8:10 p.m.

Not sure about the scoop behind the door...

mr2s2000elise
mr2s2000elise HalfDork
7/18/19 8:13 p.m.

6.2-liter V8 called LT2 mated to an eight-speed dual-clutch automatic...495 horsepower and 470 lb-ft of torque.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
7/19/19 5:20 a.m.

Not bad. Definitely ties to the C7, particularly the overblown side scoop. They'll obviously stop building the Camaro since they will now have to use all their ass ends for the new vette.

TJL
TJL Reader
7/19/19 5:37 a.m.

I think it looks pretty good, just does not really look very “corvette-ish”. Will be interesting when it starts getting released, see what the real numbers are. 

Mike
Mike SuperDork
7/19/19 5:58 a.m.

Disappointed there was no Wankel.

poopshovel again
poopshovel again MegaDork
7/19/19 6:00 a.m.

For a mid engine V8 I think it looks good and still VERY Corvette. I do not think it looks as good as the C7...though I didn’t like the C7 that much till I saw one in the wild.

Pics of that burgundy color aren’t doing it any favors. I like the white.

That center console with 9000 tiny buttons makes zero sense and is visually appalling to me. It is also not very conducive to non-driving-related activities one at least *hopes* to engage in when driving a corvette.

As someone else mentioned: I’m just glad GM is still building CARS.

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
7/19/19 6:24 a.m.

Sub $60k makes a hell of a case for a daily/GT car. 

Mike
Mike SuperDork
7/19/19 7:13 a.m.

Dumb question: Corvette is mid engined now. It has the relevant parts. What does that mean for used exotic car prices? It's going to play in the price range that would get you a Gallardo, R8 or 360 Modena. New Vettes have to take some of the people who want a mid-rear engined car.

Some, I'm sure, will still want the status and sticky buttons, or will favor the flatter depreciation curve of buying an older exotic, or maybe just want to save the manuals (is "save the single-clutch automatic" a thing? Are we about to see a dip in used Audi R8 V8 prices? 

 

Rodan
Rodan Dork
7/19/19 7:14 a.m.

Anyone else see lots of Evora and a cheap body kit?

That longitudinal switch panel is horrible.   Our Camaro has the same switches (but fewer) horizontal on the dash, and it's one of the few things that bug me about the car.  They're too small to operate easily while driving.   I imagine having to turn your head 90* isn't going to make it better.

Looks like the performance will be spectacular, though...

 

Snrub
Snrub HalfDork
7/19/19 8:05 a.m.

It looks okay, but not exceptional. It's a bit too busy. It's interesting how different colors really change the lines of it.

Looks like the moved the power curve up a bit to find the extra 35HP, peak torque is now 500rpm later.

I don't what to be that guy, but I'm kind of surprised with the weight of it. A C6 Z06 was 3100lbs which was very impressive given the size of the vehicle and weight of competitors vehicles. Despite being the same platform, the C7 gained a bunch of weight for some reason and the base all aluminum C8 now looks to be 500lbs more than the C6 Z06.

Base tires are all season michelin PS AS4. Are we at the point where all seasons have now supplemented the need for >200tw summer tires, or is this a bad move?

Kreb
Kreb UberDork
7/19/19 8:06 a.m.

I'm fine with the body and excited by the performance, but the interior is meh. For starters, it screams "Chevy" which is to say that while you sit in this amazing car, part of you keeps whispering "Cobalt, Malibu, Volt". Secondly the switchgear is stupid. Most designers focus on things like heads-up displays and intuitive design. How the hell is  taking your eyes WAY off the road conducive to a performance driving experience? Hello 1978.

 

The best thing that the Corvette interior designers could have done is hired some guys away from Mazda, whose entry-level sedan interior looks much better than the Chevy flagship.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
7/19/19 8:11 a.m.
Snrub said:

It looks okay, but not exceptional. It's a bit too busy. It's interesting how different colors really change the lines of it.

Looks like the moved the power curve up a bit to find the extra 35HP, peak torque is now 500rpm later.

I don't what to be that guy, but I'm kind of surprised with the weight of it. A C6 Z06 was 3100lbs which was very impressive given the size of the vehicle and weight of competitors vehicles. Despite being the same platform, the C7 gained a bunch of weight for some reason and the base all aluminum C8 now looks to be 500lbs more than the C6 Z06.

Base tires are all season michelin PS AS4. Are we at the point where all seasons have now supplemented the need for >200tw summer tires, or is this a bad move?

I thought it was mentioned the base weight was under 3400?

Snrub
Snrub HalfDork
7/19/19 8:22 a.m.
z31maniac said:

I thought it was mentioned the base weight was under 3400?

Quoting C&D: Chevy is quoting a dry weight of 3366 pounds, which means a likely curb weight of around 3600 pounds.

European manufacturers like to quote dry weights, I guess GM is getting in on the act too.

red_stapler
red_stapler SuperDork
7/19/19 8:27 a.m.
Kreb said:

How the hell is  taking your eyes WAY off the road conducive to a performance driving experience?

Just how often are you adjusting the HVAC for your passenger while performance driving?

dclafleur
dclafleur Reader
7/19/19 8:33 a.m.

I wonder how many of those buttons are redundant for the touch screen.  I think they heard us screaming we don't want to use a touch screen for everything and this is the compromise between having an adequately sized modern touch screen and physical buttons for haptic feedback.  That looks like a battle they couldn't win no matter which choice they made.  How are the exterior dimensions compared to a C7 do we know?  The C7 was a bigger car than the C6 which is part of why it weighs more.

Matt B
Matt B UltraDork
7/19/19 8:34 a.m.

No manual.  Good grief.  (cue sad trombone)

Kreb
Kreb UberDork
7/19/19 8:35 a.m.

In reply to red_stapler :

So those 20 buttons are for the passenger? If so, I retract that part of my indignation cheeky 

MTechnically
MTechnically Reader
7/19/19 8:51 a.m.

In reply to Matt B :

Would it be great if the C8 had a manual? Of course. But I think the fact that we got a naturally aspirated V8, that makes nearly 500HP no less, should be a big WIN for enthusiasts. Couple that with the price point of the base car, and I have a hard time understanding how you can come away from the release of this car anything less than majorly impressed. Obviously, final judgments need to wait until people actually get their hands on the car, but I'm cautiously optimistic. I could actually see myself buying one of these cars in 5 years time, which I didn't really expect.

 

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
7/19/19 8:53 a.m.

Exterior's not bad but it's not exactly good either. Looks like there was little to no padding on the camo'd test cars. That scoop behind the door is very questionable, and I foresee a big aftermarket for front bumpers, those big squared-off scoops remind me of the Toyota Mirai. I'm sure they're good from a functional standpoint, but they're not easy on the eyes.

The interior's...in line with Corvette tradition, oddly what it reminded me most of was the Mk4 Supra, with its big wraparound ribbon of flat surfaces facing the driver.

Also not happy about the lack of an H-pattern manual option, and the weight's a bit of a letdown. On the plus side, the price has surprisingly not escalated, which is very good news,  Overall, I guess it's not bad? It's still at least as much of a dollars-for-performance bargain as the C7.

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
7/19/19 9:09 a.m.

I need to see one in real life to know how I feel. The exterior reminds me more of a camaro than a vette. That row of switches is very odd. 

Tony Sestito
Tony Sestito PowerDork
7/19/19 9:18 a.m.

I like it more than I thought I would. It's certainly causing a lot of "Corvette People" to get their Jorts in a twist!

Thoughts:
-Mid-engine is something they have been trying to do since the 70's, so I don't have an issue with it. They have been building them with front engines since 1953, so if you want one like that, there are plenty of examples out there.

-The interior feels like something out of a late 80's concept car, especially with that weird divider strip with all the buttons. I'll have to sit in one to see if it makes sense.

-The price is astounding if it offers the performance they say it does. There WILL be "Adjusted Market Value" markups driving these things well above $100k for a while, but that goes for any car like this.

-The lack of a real manual is unfortunate for people (like me) that like to row their own, but like any high HP performance car with a good, modern slushbox, a few seconds behind the wheel will probably make you forget that. The last few high HP cars with automatics I've driven have been excellent, so I'd expect no less from this.

-You can get them in metallic brown! WOULD YOU JUST LOOK AT IT!!!!

 

I hope it does well. Can't wait to see one on the streets.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/19/19 9:19 a.m.

Metallic brown does look pretty sweet. 

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
7/19/19 10:01 a.m.

The side view from down low, looks very reminiscent of a Ferrari to me, but when seen from a higher point of view it looks a lot like a modern Camaro.

I like it in brown.

This seems like it will be a great bang for the buck car.

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
7/19/19 10:03 a.m.

That brown would be awesome with some gold accents. Maybe paint the intake surrounds gold?

red_stapler
red_stapler SuperDork
7/19/19 10:28 a.m.
Kreb said:

In reply to red_stapler :

So those 20 buttons are for the passenger? If so, I retract that part of my indignation cheeky 

 

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
7/19/19 10:47 a.m.

Wait, that's really the interior?  E36 M3, I thought you guys were joking!  That will go down in history as one of those bizarre, what-were-they-thinking dash layouts like an early 80s Citreon concept car.  I honestly thought somebody was having a laugh.

 

EDIT: Also, it's now heavier than my Mustang....Interesting.

Cotton
Cotton PowerDork
7/19/19 10:51 a.m.

I know the row of buttons is a little odd,  but I definitely prefer that over doing everything through a touch screen.

spacecadet
spacecadet Dork
7/19/19 10:53 a.m.

Jay Leno is currently doing a livestream on book of faces https://www.facebook.com/jaylenosgarage/videos/2336327453112828/

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
7/19/19 10:54 a.m.
Cotton said:

I know the row of buttons is a little odd,  but I definitely prefer that over doing everything through a touch screen.

You know, I initially felt that way, but my F150 has buttons for HVAC control, about the same size as those, and mounted low on the stack. I've daily'ed the truck for 8 months and I still have a hard time figuring out what button does what while driving. I feel like the larger touch-targets on the higher mounted display are much easier to use. This came as a surprise to me.

xflowgolf
xflowgolf SuperDork
7/19/19 11:04 a.m.

It's gorgeous in that brown from that angle.  No manual is a bummer, but not surprising.  I could see them doing a manual in a future Z06 type model as a more hardcore offering for the enthusiasts.  

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
7/19/19 12:01 p.m.
Tony Sestito said:

-You can get them in metallic brown! WOULD YOU JUST LOOK AT IT!!!!

 

I hope it does well. Can't wait to see one on the streets.

I'm just going to quote this because this color with no rear spoiler is absolutely gorgeous.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/19/19 12:21 p.m.

Yeah, the buttons. In college I had a phone (like, one with a cord) that lined up the buttons: * 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 #

It was novel at first but quickly got annoying. On the other hand, you don't really dial up your HVAC. Want the seats warmer? Beep, press a button. It's been interesting watching companies shed buttons (Volvo) while others embrace them (Hyundai). 

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy UltimaDork
7/19/19 12:36 p.m.

The one element I keep disliking is the black accent on the venting for the engine. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/19/19 2:27 p.m.
Brett_Murphy said:

The one element I keep disliking is the black accent on the venting for the engine. 

The thing on the side? I'm afraid it might be too much body color otherwise. Someone should fire up Photoshop. (Wait, I have Photoshop.)

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man UltraDork
7/19/19 2:31 p.m.
Brett_Murphy said:

The one element I keep disliking is the black accent on the venting for the engine. 

It's also available in body colour

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
7/19/19 2:34 p.m.
G_Body_Man said:
Brett_Murphy said:

The one element I keep disliking is the black accent on the venting for the engine. 

It's also available in body colour

There you go. 

Tony Sestito
Tony Sestito PowerDork
7/19/19 3:28 p.m.

Ok, I know I went nuts over the brown one, but this is what I really want.



DO IT, GM. DO IT NEEEEOOOOOOWWWWW!!!!!

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair MegaDork
7/19/19 3:36 p.m.

In reply to Tony Sestito :

Mid-engine?  Check.

Sawblades?  Check.

Teal?  Eh, close enough.

Jordan Rimpela
Jordan Rimpela Digital Editor
7/19/19 3:39 p.m.
Tony Sestito said:

I like it more than I thought I would. It's certainly causing a lot of "Corvette People" to get their Jorts in a twist!

Thoughts:
-Mid-engine is something they have been trying to do since the 70's, so I don't have an issue with it. They have been building them with front engines since 1953, so if you want one like that, there are plenty of examples out there.

-The interior feels like something out of a late 80's concept car, especially with that weird divider strip with all the buttons. I'll have to sit in one to see if it makes sense.

-The price is astounding if it offers the performance they say it does. There WILL be "Adjusted Market Value" markups driving these things well above $100k for a while, but that goes for any car like this.

-The lack of a real manual is unfortunate for people (like me) that like to row their own, but like any high HP performance car with a good, modern slushbox, a few seconds behind the wheel will probably make you forget that. The last few high HP cars with automatics I've driven have been excellent, so I'd expect no less from this.

-You can get them in metallic brown! WOULD YOU JUST LOOK AT IT!!!!

 

I hope it does well. Can't wait to see one on the streets.

Good gravy would you look at that! I've never wanted a new Corvette more than I do now. 

nderwater
nderwater UltimaDork
7/19/19 3:54 p.m.

The spoiler delete is a definite improvement.  That profile reminds me of an F430.

Mike
Mike SuperDork
7/19/19 5:50 p.m.

GM's previous experience with mid engine cars are the Corvair and the Fiero. I'm really hoping that they pulled a first-gen Volt and put all of the pedantic, obsessive, edge-case engineers on the job. 

OTOH, my personalized plate goal for this is FIERO2M4.

Mike
Mike SuperDork
7/19/19 5:59 p.m.

I just realized the Evija and C8 seem to claim similar, if non-specific 0-60 performance. The Lotus costs a little more than thirty Corvettes.

 

Edit: misspelling.

Dave M
Dave M Reader
7/19/19 6:01 p.m.

In reply to Jordan Rimpela :

I love that brown one. A lot. A lot lot. Maybe enough to go get a real job so I can afford one? Maybe....

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
7/19/19 6:01 p.m.
Mike said:

GM's previous experience with mid engine cars are the Corvair and the Fiero. I'm really hoping that they pulled a first-gen Volt and put all of the pedantic, obsessive, edge-case engineers on the job. 

OTOH, my personalized plate goal for this is FIERO2M4.

Shouldn't this be a 2M8?

Mike
Mike SuperDork
7/19/19 6:08 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:
Mike said:

GM's previous experience with mid engine cars are the Corvair and the Fiero. I'm really hoping that they pulled a first-gen Volt and put all of the pedantic, obsessive, edge-case engineers on the job. 

OTOH, my personalized plate goal for this is FIERO2M4.

Shouldn't this be a 2M8?

On one hand, that is technically correct. On the other hand, depending on how you interpret, it can suggest I'm on the pull and not a married man.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
7/19/19 6:19 p.m.

I have a feeling that Chevrolet is going to have no problem selling every single one they build. 

I don't know if I read it here, or somewhere else. I read they have added 400 additional employees to Bowling Green plant?

poopshovel again
poopshovel again MegaDork
7/19/19 6:24 p.m.
Mike said:
Keith Tanner said:
Mike said:

GM's previous experience with mid engine cars are the Corvair and the Fiero. I'm really hoping that they pulled a first-gen Volt and put all of the pedantic, obsessive, edge-case engineers on the job. 

OTOH, my personalized plate goal for this is FIERO2M4.

Shouldn't this be a 2M8?

On one hand, that is technically correct. On the other hand, depending on how you interpret, it can suggest I'm on the pull and not a married man.

I think that would be I12M8

poopshovel again
poopshovel again MegaDork
7/19/19 6:25 p.m.

*or I12M8M8 ...not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Mike
Mike SuperDork
7/19/19 6:28 p.m.

In reply to poopshovel again :

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
7/19/19 9:12 p.m.

I will never intentionally own a brown car. Ever. Just not my thing. 

DrBoost
DrBoost MegaDork
7/19/19 9:17 p.m.

I want to see one in the flesh, because this looks as over styled as I feared. It looks like a Ferrari and a vector had a baby, and the vector had the dominant genes. 

And that interior. Sooo GM. They haven’t made a good looking car since the C4, and haven’t made a handsome car since the 2-door Corvair. 

The0retical
The0retical UberDork
7/19/19 10:50 p.m.
Appleseed said:

I will never intentionally own a brown car. Ever. Just not my thing. 

Good news then. Its bronze. Zeus Bronze.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
7/19/19 11:16 p.m.

Metallic brown is still brown. I stand by my opinion.  laugh

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair MegaDork
7/20/19 4:46 a.m.
Mike said:

GM's previous experience with mid engine cars are the Corvair and the Fiero. 

I let this go as long as I could.  Production Corvairs were rear engined.  IIRC only the Monza GT show car was mid-engined.  There are rumors that Zora put together a mid-V8 “proof of concept” vehicle using a Corvair as the mule, but that car has not surfaced.

 

poopshovel again
poopshovel again MegaDork
7/20/19 5:56 a.m.
DrBoost said:

And that interior. Sooo GM. They haven’t made a good looking car since the C4, and haven’t made a handsome car since the 2-door Corvair. 

Just handsome? Or like ssssuper handsome?

T.J.
T.J. MegaDork
7/20/19 6:34 a.m.

I love the brown. 

Looking forward to the C8.R in IMSA and WEC. 

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
7/20/19 6:43 a.m.

Do they have a gold stripe option? Brown with a gold stripe, no spoiler. Brown interior, yellow calipers and seatbelts. Man, I want to go sit in all the seats to see how I fit. 

Mike
Mike SuperDork
7/20/19 7:06 a.m.
AngryCorvair said:
Mike said:

GM's previous experience with mid engine cars are the Corvair and the Fiero. 

I let this go as long as I could.  Production Corvairs were rear engined.  IIRC only the Monza GT show car was mid-engined.  There are rumors that Zora put together a mid-V8 “proof of concept” vehicle using a Corvair as the mule, but that car has not surfaced.

 

You sounded like an angry Corvair there. *Googles* Damn, I hate being wrong on the internet. 

 

 

DrBoost
DrBoost MegaDork
7/20/19 7:52 a.m.

I’ll just leave this here. 

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
7/20/19 10:12 a.m.
Mike said:

I just realized the Evija and C8 seem to claim similar, if non-specific 0-60 performance. The Lotus costs a little more than thirty centivettes.

2,100,000/60,000 = 35...still a lot of Corvettes though.

fasted58
fasted58 MegaDork
7/20/19 12:47 p.m.
ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
7/20/19 1:28 p.m.
Appleseed said:

I will never intentionally own a brown car. Ever. Just not my thing. 

I value you’re opinion. I just wanted to add fuel to the fire:



 

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man UltraDork
7/20/19 1:31 p.m.

Mild...

...or wild...

...this thing looks good regardless. The configurator is pretty slick too.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
7/20/19 1:40 p.m.

Why would you settle for the meek version? It’s a shouty car. Embrace it. 

spacecadet
spacecadet Dork
7/20/19 1:50 p.m.

 

Arctic white 1LT with Z51, cloth interior and body color accents and high wing.. 

 

Edit: also the Pewter wheel option is my favorite wheel color offered. 

 

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair MegaDork
7/20/19 1:55 p.m.
spacecadet said:

 

Arctic white 1LT with Z51, cloth interior and body color accents and high wing.. 

 

I was gonna say I need a moment alone, but instead of announcing it I just went ahead and took that moment.  The body-color accents fix my only complaint.

Mike
Mike SuperDork
7/20/19 2:05 p.m.
spacecadet said:

 

Arctic white 1LT with Z51, cloth interior and body color accents and high wing.. 

 

Body color accents looks great on the side and front. The problem is at the rear, where to my eyes, the black looks better in nearly every case.

 

 

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
7/20/19 3:58 p.m.

What do you think the C8 will do to the value of the C7 cars?  Will they go down because of the popularity of the C8, or will they go up because they're the last example of a front engine Corvette?

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair MegaDork
7/20/19 4:05 p.m.

In reply to stuart in mn :

They will do both, just depends on the time scale.

noddaz
noddaz SuperDork
7/20/19 4:47 p.m.

What is with the "meh" face on the side of the spoiler?

 

 

spacecadet
spacecadet Dork
7/20/19 4:58 p.m.
noddaz said:

What is with the "meh" face on the side of the spoiler?

 

 

The bottom of the edplate most likely comes inward and what you're seeing is a function of shading. 

spacecadet
spacecadet Dork
7/20/19 4:59 p.m.

In reply to AngryCorvair :

The body color side strikes really subdue the styling and I love it quite a bit more this way. 

spacecadet
spacecadet Dork
7/20/19 5:04 p.m.
Mike said:

Body color accents looks great on the side and front. The problem is at the rear, where to my eyes, the black looks better in nearly every case.

 

 

I dislike the rear anyway. I'd take the trade off. Although I also like the black... So that fixes both problems as you said.. 

Mike
Mike SuperDork
7/20/19 5:13 p.m.

That uprated wing looks great, but is probably a pain for grocery runs. The Z51 wing looks more tolerable. 

spacecadet
spacecadet Dork
7/20/19 5:19 p.m.

In reply to Mike :

but that's what the frunk is for! lol

Opti
Opti Dork
7/20/19 7:20 p.m.

Man I dig it. Make mine in red with red interior. SWMBO stayed up and watched the reveal with me and the next day I said we should by a Corvette.

She said she was down. 

 

I can't wait to see tests and see how well it performs, especially against the more expensive gt500. Probably my favorite thing is how much they talked about drivability improvements, better visibility, comfort and interior space. I drive an ND most days, and before that a C5 which wasn't the greatest, if they improved it half as much as they talk about it's gonna be like a luxury car to me.

Also I've seen some people elsewhere mention the Z51 will be an expensive option, like 10k. I looked it up for a C7 and it's only 5k, and in that 5k your paying for the gearing, coolers, ediff, suspension but also the dry sump, and even the base model has a dry sump on the c8, so I'm hoping to see similar package pricing for that

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