The E-RWB Is a Wide-Bodied, Tesla-Powered 1977 Porsche 911

Photography Courtesy Trevor Yale Ryan/Speedhunters

Founded by father-and-son team Lee and Dylan Coleman, StreetFighter LA is known as one of the few U.S.-based manufacturers of wide-body kits. Currently, StreetFighter LA sells kits for a number of popular performance vehicles, such as the BMW M3, Mitsubishi Evo X and the Chevrolet Camaro.

Its latest creation marries a wide-body 911 with an all-electric powertrain. Called the E-RWB, the car is a 1977 Porsche 911 with an RWB Backdate body kit that's powered by a 420-kilowatt drive unit from a Tesla Model S.

The full modification list is extensive and can be viewed over on the Pelican Parts forum. It includes a custom set of 17-inch BBS RS wheels, “GT3-inspired” suspension from Elephant Racing, and a custom interior featuring Burberry fabric inserts. Pelican Parts was also enlisted to help with the build.

Let us know what you think of this all-electric RWB 911. And what sort of car would you drop a Tesla powerplant into if given the option?

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Placemotorsports
Placemotorsports HalfDork
2/3/21 1:58 p.m.

Bisimoto has this already pinned down

Chris_V
Chris_V UberDork
2/3/21 2:17 p.m.

That's sweet. EV West does some similar stuff with stock bodied 911s. For me, I'd have loved to do that with my old '63 Mercury Comet. It weighed in at about 2500 lbs in stock form (with heavy seats and an iron 6 cyl) so I'd bet that it could be kept under 3000 lbs with the Tesla stuff in it.

 

Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter)
Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
2/3/21 4:58 p.m.

I want to like it but the polished cage just loses me.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltraDork
2/3/21 5:08 p.m.
Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter) said:

I want to like it but the polished cage just loses me.

The bar of the cage as an anti-whiplash device is *ahem* a novel choice

Olemiss540
Olemiss540 Reader
2/3/21 6:03 p.m.

Holy mother of all that is holy. Why is the only thing I ever wanted all of a sudden a wide body Maserati biturbo with an electric conversion?

 

Like sell my soul kind of E36 M3?

Jah29
Jah29 New Reader
2/3/21 6:12 p.m.

In reply to Olemiss540 :

So you made me go and look.  I didn't find any wide body kits for the biturbo.  Big profit opportunity for someone!!

84FSP
84FSP UltraDork
2/3/21 6:19 p.m.

Beautiful show car that won't get driven.  I have a sneaking suspicion this is what future hotrodding of ICE platforms looks like.

Vajingo
Vajingo Reader
2/3/21 6:30 p.m.

In reply to 84FSP :

The problem with a lot of high dollar builds. All show, no go (even though they have it)

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
2/3/21 7:00 p.m.
Jah29 said:

In reply to Olemiss540 :

So you made me go and look.  I didn't find any wide body kits for the biturbo.  Big profit opportunity for someone!!

There were some factory variants that were sorta widebody. Shamal and Ghibli.

Me, I'd love to put the drivetrain in an ND Miata. But properly. The 1966 Cadillac would work pretty nicely as an EV as well, it's basically what Cadillac was going for.

newrider3
newrider3 Reader
2/3/21 7:15 p.m.
84FSP said:

Beautiful show car that won't get driven.  I have a sneaking suspicion this is what future hotrodding of ICE platforms looks like.

You act like this is a new idea. Trailered and even completely undriveable show cars have been a thing since the first custom cars were built. There's an entire city block filled with them every year at SEMA.

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/3/21 7:21 p.m.

I love that. 
 

But I'd drive it. 

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) PowerDork
2/3/21 7:49 p.m.

When I see these I always wonder why the RWB guys keep ruining 911's.

Hasbro (Forum Supporter)
Hasbro (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
2/3/21 8:18 p.m.

 

I'm really glad no one heard the moan that came out of me when I saw this.

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adam525i (Forum Supporter)
adam525i (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
2/3/21 8:38 p.m.

Don't these RWB cars just get rolled around to car shows in and out of trailers? Should've just gone with an electric golf cart drivetrain cheeky

ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter)
ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
2/3/21 9:08 p.m.
Mr_Asa said:
Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter) said:

I want to like it but the polished cage just loses me.

The bar of the cage as an anti-whiplash device is *ahem* a novel choice

First thing I noticed. Strikes me a bit like sci-fi movies that have scientifically implausible plots. I get that the roll bar is for style points, but maybe see it through with a seat that wouldn't kill you in a crash?  Or that could accept some kind of seatbelt?

I definitely dig the idea of this car, but from an execution standpoint I’m turned off by the SEMA/trailer-queen vibe.  Also not a fan of any car that will get high-centered attempting to enter a driveway or cross over a speed bump.

That said, as much as I like where all this EV conversion stuff is going, my tastes tend more toward this 911 conversion, which also sports a Tesla drivetrain from EV West, but is waaaaaay more GRM in my opinion.  I’d drive the wheels off of this...

 

For those of you not into the whole video thing there’s a nice write up with pictures Here

RadBarchetta
RadBarchetta New Reader
2/4/21 7:49 a.m.

In reply to ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) :

Considering this car will only ever be driven from the back of a truck to a car show floor at 10mph, I don't think there's much to worry about.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/4/21 10:51 a.m.
Hasbro (Forum Supporter) said:

 

I'm really glad no one heard the moan that came out of me when I saw this.

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I know, right? And I'm okay if it's more of a show car. It shows us what's possible. 

kb58
kb58 SuperDork
2/4/21 3:19 p.m.

Okay, let's compare the cost of the EV version compared to building the same thing with a Porsche drivetrain. Yeah, I get it, it's to show off the shop's abilities, and we seem to agree the EV version isn't driving anywhere, but still. My current impression is that EV conversions aren't yet a financially viable alternative, yet

Edit: I just realized that the show car probably doesn't have the battery packs, so they can claim it's a $10k cheaper conversion, hah.

paddygarcia
paddygarcia New Reader
2/4/21 3:42 p.m.

In reply to kb58 :

A 420kw/570hp air cooled 911 drivetrain will be crazy, crazy expensive.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
2/4/21 4:19 p.m.

A car like this is not about the cheapest way to do something.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
2/4/21 4:21 p.m.
84FSP said:

Beautiful show car that won't get driven.  I have a sneaking suspicion this is what future hotrodding of ICE platforms looks like.

Just like the 2000s, and the 90s, and the 80s, and the 70s, an....

 

 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
2/4/21 4:24 p.m.
RadBarchetta said:

In reply to ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) :

Considering this car will only ever be driven from the back of a truck to a car show floor at 10mph, I don't think there's much to worry about.

Heh.  I had an '87 RX-7, my roommate wanted to turn it into a stereo competition car.  He figured it didn't need to actually run, and if we stuck an electric motor on the diff, it could move around at walking speed well enough.

 

(then he bought a '73 S&S Superior hearse.  Much more room for speakers)

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) PowerDork
2/4/21 4:39 p.m.

In reply to jerrysarcastic (Forum Supporter) :

I like this a lot.  Thanks for sharing.

RichardSIA
RichardSIA HalfDork
2/4/21 7:05 p.m.

"Let us know what you think of this all-electric RWB 911. And what sort of car would you drop a Tesla powerplant into if given the option?" Are you sure you want me to answer that?

I've never been a big Porsche fan, except as a possible source of transmissions to build something better. But this is just BERK-tastic, and that is NOT a compliment.

As to putting a Tesla drivetrain into something, maybe a Yugo on it's way to the scrapper?

Very disappointed to see so many recent articles on EV's, smacks of giving aid and comfort to the enemy!

Real cars burn gas and rubber!

A 401 CJ
A 401 CJ SuperDork
2/4/21 7:10 p.m.

Let's take a vintage wine, pour it out, and fill the bottle with some new hip craft beer.  Yeah.  That's what we need.

BlueInGreen - Jon (Forum Supporter)
BlueInGreen - Jon (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
2/4/21 7:16 p.m.

Oh a Tesla can burn rubber just fine.

On topic: I’m not sure the wide body E Porsche does it for me.

For starters, wide body 911 is sexy but isn’t exactly a new thing.

But really, isn’t like 80% of the charm inherent to an old air cooled P-car the air cooled flat 6 itself? To me, the E-RWB is like getting to see Jimi Hendrix play, but he’s just doing acoustic covers of Celine Dion.

Although, that might be kind of awesome. Carry on...

I’d be much more excited about an electrified classic that started with a less iconic engine.

Edit: Maybe like, ahem, <looks around mischievously> a Jaguar? o_O

STM317
STM317 UberDork
2/4/21 7:17 p.m.
RichardSIA said:

"Let us know what you think of this all-electric RWB 911. And what sort of car would you drop a Tesla powerplant into if given the option?" Are you sure you want me to answer that?

I've never been a big Porsche fan, except as a possible source of transmissions to build something better. But this is just BERK-tastic, and that is NOT a compliment.

As to putting a Tesla drivetrain into something, maybe a Yugo on it's way to the scrapper?

Very disappointed to see so many recent articles on EV's, smacks of giving aid and comfort to the enemy!

Real cars burn gas and rubber!

So much fear in this post. EVs can absolutely rip:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uxjPipmrLnQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UT7GTKpWTdg

noddaz
noddaz UltraDork
2/4/21 7:21 p.m.

Is the motor in the back?

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
2/4/21 7:41 p.m.
RichardSIA said:

"Let us know what you think of this all-electric RWB 911. And what sort of car would you drop a Tesla powerplant into if given the option?" Are you sure you want me to answer that?

I've never been a big Porsche fan, except as a possible source of transmissions to build something better. But this is just BERK-tastic, and that is NOT a compliment.

As to putting a Tesla drivetrain into something, maybe a Yugo on it's way to the scrapper?

Very disappointed to see so many recent articles on EV's, smacks of giving aid and comfort to the enemy!

Real cars burn gas and rubber!

Burning rubber is a sign that your car has insufficient traction.

 

Never understood why people like to celebrate their vehicles' failings...

jerrysarcastic (Forum Supporter)
jerrysarcastic (Forum Supporter) Reader
2/4/21 10:41 p.m.
RichardSIA said:

Very disappointed to see so many recent articles on EV's, smacks of giving aid and comfort to the enemy!

My sarcasm meter is usually pretty good at this, but I’ll admit I’m not sure here, so I’ll ask:  Why is EV the enemy?

I love internal combustion as much as anybody (my tastes skew toward American V8’s but I appreciate so many others too) but it’s hard to ignore the performance potential of EV cars.  I also doubt the SCCA moved the dual motor Model 3 to SS just to stick it to the man. Maybe it’s just me, but I’m in it to have fun so it’s all gravy to me.

RichardSIA
RichardSIA HalfDork
2/4/21 11:21 p.m.

Why is EV the enemy?

Simple, the EV Fanboise' and their Green Mafia allies refuse to live and let live while deliberately ignoring the realities of EV's mass use.

Musky and his True Believers (Among others) insist on making it a zero-sum game, they cannot be satisfied until ICE cars are banned outright. Rather than gain market share by having the superior product they continue to lobby for ICE cars to be replaced prematurely by legislative fiat.

The mainstream media are in their pockets, state legislatures are irrationally lining up behind them too.

When Musky made his statements that all ICE cars should be banned, and even aircraft should be electric, he declared war.

Fine, so be it, but I'm not surrendering without a fight!

The Porsche looks horrible with the too wide flares, without it's Porsche heart it's reduced to just another kit car build.

One reason I live in Nevada is that it will be one of the last states where EV's can be forced on us. Just too rural for the infrastructure required to happen in my life time, if ever.

 

red_stapler
red_stapler SuperDork
2/5/21 12:37 a.m.
RichardSIA said:

Simple, the EV Fanboise' and their Green Mafia allies refuse to live and let live while deliberately ignoring the realities of EV's mass use.

Musky and his True Believers (Among others) insist on making it a zero-sum game, they cannot be satisfied until ICE cars are banned outright. Rather than gain market share by having the superior product they continue to lobby for ICE cars to be replaced prematurely by legislative fiat.

The mainstream media are in their pockets, state legislatures are irrationally lining up behind them too.

When Musky made his statements that all ICE cars should be banned, and even aircraft should be electric, he declared war.

Fine, so be it, but I'm not surrendering without a fight!

The Porsche looks horrible with the too wide flares, without it's Porsche heart it's reduced to just another kit car build.

One reason I live in Nevada is that it will be one of the last states where EV's can be forced on us. Just too rural for the infrastructure required to happen in my life time, if ever.

Sir, this is an Arby's.

In reply to RichardSIA :

Gotcha, definitely not sarcasm. ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

 

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
2/5/21 6:40 a.m.
RichardSIA said:

When Musky made his statements that all ICE cars should be banned, and even aircraft should be electric, he declared war.

Are you talking about Elon Musk?  Of course he's going to lobby against ICE, he has an electric car company.  It's not any different than the head of General Mills urging everyone to eat Cheerios for breakfast. 

ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter)
ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
2/5/21 7:14 a.m.

I feel like this thread is headed towards subjects like chemtrails and Antifa. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
2/5/21 7:31 a.m.

In reply to ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) :

RichardSIA
RichardSIA HalfDork
2/5/21 11:16 a.m.

As I've said before, everyone please save yourselves, run out and buy the latest shiny planned obsoleteness object. Enjoy the pretense of running on solar, windmills, and Unicorn farts. /s

Escape the horror of all those "Dangerous", "Old", "Mass polluting", pre-80's classic British and Italian cars, send them to me, I will even come get them if not too far away. /s*

*/s = Sarcasm.

I simply have to object to Herd Mentality when the Lemmings are rushing for the cliff!

Matt B (fs)
Matt B (fs) UltraDork
2/5/21 11:25 a.m.
Mr_Asa said:

The bar of the cage as an anti-whiplash device is *ahem* a novel choice

This. The rest of the car is extremely cool, but the seats? WTH

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
2/5/21 11:49 a.m.

In reply to Matt B (fs) :

It pops your noggin like an egg, thus saving you from ever knowing that your gazillion dollar car just got totalled by someone texting their BFF Jill.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
2/5/21 1:18 p.m.
RichardSIA said:

As I've said before, everyone please save yourselves, run out and buy the latest shiny planned obsoleteness object. Enjoy the pretense of running on solar, windmills, and Unicorn farts. /s

Escape the horror of all those "Dangerous", "Old", "Mass polluting", pre-80's classic British and Italian cars, send them to me, I will even come get them if not too far away. /s*

*/s = Sarcasm.

I simply have to object to Herd Mentality when the Lemmings are rushing for the cliff!

Are the quotes to imply that those cars are not "old", "dangerous" or "mass polluting"? Because it's really easy to prove that, yes, they are in fact all of those things. You're trying to hide behind your sarcasm tag but it's not believable.

I have old British stuff and I have stuff that's newer. I have things with carbs and things with fuel injection. I have an EV. Based on your statements, you've drunk a lot more of the kool-aid than I have. It's not necessarily herd mentality to believe that cars did not peak with carburetors and that maybe, just maybe it's possible to improve on an MGB or a 1960's Land Rover. Or an old Porsche.

Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter)
Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
2/5/21 1:41 p.m.
RichardSIA said:

I simply have to object to Herd Mentality when the Lemmings are rushing for the cliff!

There is no cliff is the punchline here.

iansane
iansane Reader
2/5/21 1:45 p.m.
red_stapler said:

Sir, this is an Arby's.

I just keep rereading this and laughing. I can't thumb up it enough.

RichardSIA
RichardSIA HalfDork
2/6/21 10:57 a.m.

Invasion of the body snatchers!

That is pretty much the way I view the EV/Green Zealotry.

Enough, I'm DONE with this thread, no hope of overcoming mass delusion supported by Gov. Org. and our "News" media masters. Creepy that a formerly free people are manipulated to embrace this "Progress" so easily!

Laws of physics will eventually determine the outcome as they cannot be changed by political whim or popular misconceptions. I think I know how this will end and if I am right it will not be pretty.

yupididit
yupididit PowerDork
2/6/21 11:23 a.m.

In reply to RichardSIA :

The internet must be a horrifying place for you.  

yupididit
yupididit PowerDork
2/6/21 11:26 a.m.
Keith Tanner said:

A car like this is not about the cheapest way to do something.

 

I'm glad somebody said it. I think sometimes we blind ourselves from the beauty and the "art of the possible" when it comes to some things. 

SkinnyG (Forum Supporter)
SkinnyG (Forum Supporter) UberDork
2/6/21 12:33 p.m.

SO........ I'd like to see more of that Porsche.

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/6/21 12:44 p.m.

I love this entire build, except the widebody. 

Do the electric propulsion. And those seats are secksy. Love the color. but I just cant stop thinking the widebody is too far over the top. 

yupididit
yupididit PowerDork
2/6/21 1:30 p.m.

In reply to Robbie (Forum Supporter) :

The seats are my favorite part

nocones
nocones UberDork
2/6/21 1:50 p.m.

I can't get over how amazing those seats look.  As a low back vintage look seat that has some modern nods they nailed it.  

RWB style is what it is. You either like it, or not.  

I'm intrigued by electric power trains.  If seems that all of the conversions are about melting your face off with acceleration.  It seems that that is where the market is pointed and I'm hoping it's just for the clicks.

I would love to see a conversion like the Alfahalics  Resto mod focused on driver engagement.  Some that is quick but captures the driver.  Maybe a early Lotus Open wheel car or something like that.   That's my only concern about electric cars.  That and that I don't understand how they work or how to motorswap one ..

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
2/6/21 2:18 p.m.

In reply to nocones :

I like electric drivetrains.  It isn't about being green or making a social statement or anything, it is 100% about facial melting accelerative properties.

crankwalk (Forum Supporter)
crankwalk (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
2/6/21 4:20 p.m.

I like three pedals and ICE sounds. I don't hate technology I just think this thing with a hopped up 3.2 and a 5 speed would put a bigger smile on my face. I feel like I need a disclaimer when I say that in here so I'm not labelled anti-progress or something and that's weird.

Azulevo
Azulevo New Reader
2/6/21 8:33 p.m.

Might be a while before this car is seen again...   But i do hope it returns....  

earlybroncoguy1
earlybroncoguy1 New Reader
2/6/21 9:06 p.m.

In reply to jerrysarcastic (Forum Supporter) :

I sold my long term '66 912 project (rolling chassis, no engine) to a guy in the Austin area that is dropping in a Tesla drivetrain. I miss the car, but it'll be cool to see it electrified.

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia SuperDork
2/6/21 9:28 p.m.
nocones said:

I can't get over how amazing those seats look.  As a low back vintage look seat that has some modern nods they nailed it.  

the seats are just 356 Speedster seats , I am sure replica ones , 

they are not really comfortable for long rides , but look right  :)

I wonder how your head is not going to smash into the roll cage  when you are doing speed runs....

And this was built  a year or 2 ago , when Tesla "transplants" were rare ......

Azulevo
Azulevo New Reader
2/7/21 9:12 p.m.
californiamilleghia said:
nocones said:

I can't get over how amazing those seats look.  As a low back vintage look seat that has some modern nods they nailed it.  

the seats are just 356 Speedster seats , I am sure replica ones , 

they are not really comfortable for long rides , but look right  :)

 

Well, considering what happened, luckily no one was hurt.  

I wonder how your head is not going to smash into the roll cage  when you are doing speed runs....

And this was built  a year or 2 ago , when Tesla "transplants" were rare ......

 

pheller
pheller UltimaDork
2/8/21 10:23 a.m.

 

Some things I'm curious about:

How much weight is pulled out of a Tesla when the batteries and motors are removed? Is the majority of a Tesla's weight in those components? Or the body/interior/etc? 

In the case of the "E-RWB" how much did the stock drivetrain weigh compared the Tesla's single motor and what I assume is as a smaller battery pack?

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia SuperDork
2/8/21 11:36 a.m.

Another question , 

Do these conversions have a "limp home"  setting that when you only have 20% of power or so you are limited to 50 mph  or whatever speed gives you the most range to get home or to a charge station ?

STM317
STM317 UberDork
2/8/21 12:27 p.m.

In reply to pheller :

This porsche appears to have an EV West swap kit. They say their basic 911 swap weighs 250lbs, but that does not include the battery and I don't think it's motor is the same as the Tesla motor in this car.

Google says a Tesla Model S motor weighs around 70lbs. No idea how that would change the weight of the EV west kit. It could even remove some.

Reports are that this car has a 32kwh battery. A 40kwh battery pack from a Leaf is around 450lbs and would give a max range around 150 miles. So this should be about 80% of those figures (360lbs battery, 120 miles of range).

So, somewhere between 550-700lbs for the EV powertrain seems plausible to me.

Based on some forum posts, etc a stock aircooled, flat 6 might be 450lbs + transaxle, fuel tank, exhaust, etc.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
2/8/21 5:56 p.m.

In reply to STM317 :

Indeed, seems like the motor weighs what the fuel tank did (full), and the battery weighs what the drivetrain did.

 

Kind of neat, really.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
2/8/21 6:52 p.m.

You do need to take inverters and battery cooling into account for weight, especially when you're comparing to a car that didn't have a cooling system :)

I've pointed out a bunch of times (mostly because I have a hard time believing it myself) - my dual motor Model 3 is almost exactly the same weight as my E39 M5. I'm pretty sure Tesla spent a lot of time getting the rest of the body and interior as light as possible.

STM317
STM317 UberDork
2/9/21 3:39 a.m.
Keith Tanner said:

You do need to take inverters and battery cooling into account for weight, especially when you're comparing to a car that didn't have a cooling system :)

Perhaps they went with aircooled batteries from a Leaf or something to maintain historical continuity (and definitely not to make the swap cheaper/easier)?

Keith Tanner said:

I've pointed out a bunch of times (mostly because I have a hard time believing it myself) - my dual motor Model 3 is almost exactly the same weight as my E39 M5

With the significant advantage of being able to place most of that mass (e.g. the batteries) as low in the chassis as possible, plus all that instant torque.

Its hard to see how EV doesn’t win the long game here...

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE Dork
2/9/21 8:04 p.m.
pheller said:

Some things I'm curious about:

How much weight is pulled out of a Tesla when the batteries and motors are removed? Is the majority of a Tesla's weight in those components? Or the body/interior/etc?

I'm pretty sure dropping the entire pack and the motors is easily a third the weight of a Tesla, but as Elon momentarily described in his recent interview with Sandy Munroe those battery packs are terrible in crashes because the cells can't be expected to absorb or shear any of the force. So packs are heavy- but a lot of that weight is in the bespoke cooling system (18650 and 21700 cells aren't purpose-built to be cooled for these applications, and battery cooling is why their 4680s are going to be the game changer imo) and the materials needed to take crash damage, not nessesarily in "battery" alone.

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