This Pandemic Is Crushing Our Industry. It Could Crush GRM, Too.

We may have been smiling when this photo was taken, but right now, things aren’t looking good. 

There, we said it. And we’re not talking about us. We’re talking about you. You’re hurting. You’re scared. You’re bored. You’re tired. You’re ready for this all to be over.

We’ve watched our community lose their minds, lose their jobs, and even lose their loved ones in a sprawling Coronavirus thread on our forum spanning more than 100 pages

We’ve watched our site traffic spike as people suddenly find themselves with no work to do on a weekday morning. 

We’ve seen a marked increase in digital subscription access, since even the mailbox has become too risky. 

Look beyond the personal level, and the news in the broader motorsports industry isn’t much better. 

Today the SCCA furloughed most of its staff in a bid to survive the coming weeks. More than 30 states have completely shut down. In just over a week, an entire country’s worth of race tracks, sanctioning bodies, parts suppliers, safety gear sellers, and more–the entire motorsports industry–did a panic stop in order to prevent this virus from hurting more people than it already will. Some have shifted gears, now building PPE for medical professionals instead of parts for car nuts like us. 

It’s worth mentioning that most of the players made these calls, the calls that could end up costing this industry its life, before government action made them inevitable. The industry stepped up, and now it’s facing ruination. 

One thing is certain: Cars, racing, enthusiasts and the world we’ve built around them will survive this, just like it’s survived every other setback since the horse went out of style a century ago. 

But it’s not at all certain what the car world will look like when this is all said and done. We’re not naive–we know playing with cars requires a certain amount of disposable income, and that income is often the first to go in a crisis–and a world built on money that ebbs and flows will always be in a constant state of change. 

But this time feels different. The SCCA, an institution for 76 years and the creator of modern sports car racing, has had rough years, but it’s never laid off most of its staff. It just announced its #SupportMotorsport campaign in a bid to keep this industry alive. 

In fact, the events business as a whole, already a tough nut to crack, seems to be reaching a dead end as mortgage payments and bills pile up while the gates remain padlocked. Remember when noise restrictions were your local race track’s biggest issues? They’d kill to have those problems back today.

Between the broader economic uncertainty and the lack of places to race, it means very few people are ordering parts for their cars, buying tickets to events, ordering T-shirts, or doing anything else that normally keeps our world functioning. 

This isn’t a complicated industry. Unlike the real world, there are no wolfs of Wall Street running elaborate hustles and no vast interconnected global financial systems. In fact, it’s refreshingly simple: People make money at their day jobs, then throw it at their cars on the weekend. And when they stop, well, so does this. 

And it affects us, too. Like any media company, most of our revenue comes from advertising. In the past we’ve had advertisers withdraw from our market, but never like this. Our sales staff now spends their days at home, quarantined, leaving voicemails on phones that might not be touched for months, and reading out-of-office replies from senders who may never login to that account again. 

Our hardship doesn’t compare to the hardships faced by so many right now. Nobody’s died, nobody’s lost their homes, and all of our employees are still employed at their full salaries with paid-for healthcare despite being stuck at home. But that can’t continue forever, and it can’t even continue much longer unless you show your support. Frustrating though it is, just as you’re relying on us now more than ever to be a source of comfort, distraction and community, we’re now relying on you more than ever. 

Put simply, we face an existential threat unless you #SupportMotorsport and support us, too. We’d like to still be a part of the motorsports world when it emerges from this crisis in a few months, but we’re not going to be unless you support us any way you can. 

How can you support us? If you don’t already, please subscribe to the magazine. Our subscribers pay our bills, our production staff, and our writers. They’re also the prime audience our advertisers hope to reach, and every additional subscriber is another member of a market that will save this industry. 

After that, please consider picking up some merchandise from our online store. It might just be a super sweet $10 T-shirt to you, but to us it provides a chunk of payroll, a reason for UPS to keep our friendly driver employed (Hi Juan!), and a way for our always-local T-shirt printers to keep food on their tables, too. 

There's also a brand new way to show your support: We've started a Patreon page, where you can quickly and securely pledge a few dollars per month to support our efforts. Though this is a new project for us, we're excited about its possibilities, and about the new ways it will allow us to continue creating the content and experiences you've come to expect. Click the button below to learn more. 

 

Become a Patron!

 

If you can’t send us money, we understand, but we will still ask you to do one thing: Help us spread the word. Share us with your friends. Watch our YouTube channel. Click on some banner ads to look at all of the cool stuff our advertisers have built for you. In a world where success and failure are just a few page views apart, your presence here matters more than ever.

Above all, though, stay safe. Lock yourself in your garage and finish that damn project. Order some parts, even if it means spraying them down with disinfectant once they arrive. And don’t be afraid to start racing again once this all blows over. Hopefully we’ll be here to unlock the gates with you.

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z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
4/1/20 3:08 p.m.

I was about to buy a T-shirt, but looks like for us rotund fellas, the XLs are sold out in multiple styles. 

 

I'll be more than happy to buy one as soon as they are back in stock!

Jordan Rimpela
Jordan Rimpela Dork
4/1/20 3:08 p.m.

And those $10 shirts are super soft and totally worth it.  

NermalSnert
NermalSnert Reader
4/1/20 3:15 p.m.

Need a lg in the 2020 short sleeve. When they get back in stock, I'll order.....

slowbird
slowbird Dork
4/1/20 3:19 p.m.

I subscribed last week, and I'm going to check out the store now. Hang in there. A world without GRM isn't one I want to live in.

stanger_missle
stanger_missle UltraDork
4/1/20 3:24 p.m.

The newer style shirts are awesome! Thanks for reminding me I need some more. GRM merch makes up about 80% of my daily wear.

 

Any word on when the work shirts will be back in stock?

stanger_missle
stanger_missle UltraDork
4/1/20 3:25 p.m.
NermalSnert said:

Need a lg in the 2020 short sleeve. When they get back in stock, I'll order.....

They were in stock just a few minutes ago. The 35th Anniversary shirts are out though.

_
_ Dork
4/1/20 3:26 p.m.

As a subscriber, and rotund shirt wearer, I like my shirt. 
as far as Mr. Suddard and his state of union address: I think this will cause things to go more our way. The grassroots way.
 

While we consider the "norm" to be High dollar racing vehicles and safety equipment that costs more than the Miata its in, I can see tracks closing, big venues and sanctioning bodies rollin down the proverbial bay doors, etc. 

And, yet, I feel motorsports will continue. Henry Ford once said “Auto racing began 5 minutes after the second car was built.”

tracks? What tracks? Safety gear? Didn't exist. Sanctioning bodies? To hell with that. Some guy like cleetus Mcfarland will open a race track and host some form of automotive competition. We will survive. The magazine will too. It'll just be more grassroots. 
 

heck, maybe this will allow all of the low rung cheap forms of motor sports and racing to become the cream of the crop. Have you guys considered expanding the $2000 challenge?

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 3:26 p.m.

Sorry about that, shirt inventories are now updated. We've got plenty of XLs arriving on a truck tomorrow!

RadBarchetta
RadBarchetta New Reader
4/1/20 3:27 p.m.

If they don't have your size in stock, buy one as a gift for someone else!

Christmas is right around the corner!

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 3:28 p.m.

In reply to NermalSnert :

It's in stock, not sure why it was showing otherwise. Is it still showing as sold-out for you?

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 UberDork
4/1/20 3:34 p.m.

Re-subscribing now. Maybe I'll order some gear too for the kiddos. 

Is there anyway to tie subscriptions to usernames? 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 3:38 p.m.

Yes, you can link your subscription on your dashboard once the order has processed.

 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 3:41 p.m.

In reply to stanger_missle :

Due to all the closures and shutdowns, we're not taking backorders for the work shirts right now. They take much more time to produce than normal T-shirts. Sorry about that!

racerdave600
racerdave600 UltraDork
4/1/20 3:47 p.m.

I have re-upped both GRM and CMS.  

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
4/1/20 3:47 p.m.

Added 2 year sub to classic.  If you go under i know where JG lives.  

AxeHealey
AxeHealey HalfDork
4/1/20 3:47 p.m.

So if i just ignore the email about the rebate, that $ just stays in your pocket right?

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 3:48 p.m.

In reply to AxeHealey :

That's correct. Thank you!

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 3:50 p.m.

I'm starting to see orders trickle in, everybody, so I just wanted to take a moment and say THANK YOU.

This is a bright spot in an otherwise grim time, and it shows how much our community cares about us. Thanks, everybody. We really couldn't do this without you.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
4/1/20 3:56 p.m.
Patrick said:

Added 2 year sub to classic.  If you go under i know where JG lives.  

Wash your hands before you come kill me

AxeHealey
AxeHealey HalfDork
4/1/20 3:56 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

No, thank you!

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
4/1/20 3:56 p.m.
JG Pasterjak said:
Patrick said:

Added 2 year sub to classic.  If you go under i know where JG lives.  

Wash your hands before you come kill me

Oh, he won't kill you. He'll just cough on you.

Jordan Rimpela
Jordan Rimpela Dork
4/1/20 3:59 p.m.
Patrick said:

Added 2 year sub to classic.  If you go under i know where JG lives.  

Those ducks dont duck around, if you know what I mean. 

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
4/1/20 4:02 p.m.

If one wanted to subscribe for more than 2 years...  (not discount seeking, more logistically inquiring)

stanger_missle
stanger_missle UltraDork
4/1/20 4:02 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

In reply to stanger_missle :

Due to all the closures and shutdowns, we're not taking backorders for the work shirts right now. They take much more time to produce than normal T-shirts. Sorry about that!

No worries Tom. I can wait until Coronapocalypse has blown over smiley.

appliance_racer
appliance_racer Reader
4/1/20 4:04 p.m.

Well looks like the wife and family will be getting new shirts. I've never read CM but I'll subscribe and see if I like it. 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 4:06 p.m.

Thanks! I promise you'll love it.

Mark L
Mark L Reader
4/1/20 4:10 p.m.

I just added to my subscription. You should have a check box for no tee shirt needed. Between the challenge tee shirts and the subscription tee shirts I have plenty.

CrustyRedXpress
CrustyRedXpress Reader
4/1/20 4:13 p.m.

Hey Tom, is there a way we can just kick you guys 5 or 10 bucks a month for the forum and the articles?

Let people decide how much, but make it recurring so we don't have to put it on our "to do" list.

Love my T-shirts! Those black ones are comfy as hell.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/1/20 4:18 p.m.

Thank you, everyone, for the support. 

brakeharder
brakeharder New Reader
4/1/20 4:20 p.m.

Should have re-upped awhile back. Read Tom's article and it just hit home what a challenge it must be to keep this type of business moving forward in current conditions. My small contribution is a 2 year GRM sub and a 1 year CC sub plus a hoodie, long sleeve T and short sleeve T purchase. Think I might have got the last long sleeve XXXL. For once being larger than average worked in my favor!  Keep up the great work at GRM and CC and hope to see you at a track event in the future. 

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
4/1/20 4:23 p.m.

Hey guys, before I go re-up my 'scrip and buy  tshirt or two....

Would you guys consider adding a "supporter" level to forum membership that would involve a flat or monthly fee? A way for those of us who are still employed to keep the wheels on?

Raze
Raze UltraDork
4/1/20 4:31 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

Since you guys are in FL, time to cross promote with folks still doing Motorsports...Cleetus is doing the Freedom Factory 500 and has millions of subscribers...

dmoser
dmoser New Reader
4/1/20 4:36 p.m.

Just ordered a hat and t-shirt!  I am glad you guys asked for help because it is, well... perfectly ok to do and something this community will come together to do!

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
4/1/20 4:41 p.m.

I am reading this through tears. It's been a rough time for not just us, and I am more grateful for this community than you will ever know. 

Margie

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 4:43 p.m.

In reply to CrustyRedXpress :

You know, that's not a bad idea. If you'd just like to send us money, I'm certainly not going to stop you. The best way to do so is to become a forum supporter here:

https://www.patreon.com/grassroots_motorsports/

Feel free to pledge more than $3 if you think we've earned it, too. 

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
4/1/20 4:43 p.m.
Marjorie Suddard said:

I am reading this through tears. It's been a rough time for not just us, and I am more grateful for this community than you will ever know. 

Margie

The truth is, about 50 of us wouldn't know what the berkeley to do with our lives if the challenge disappeared, so we need to keep you afloat

Shadeux
Shadeux HalfDork
4/1/20 4:47 p.m.

I re-upped my GRM sub (I think I have a year left or so on a 2 year sub?) and hit the CMS sub button while I was at it. 

Then I raided the store for some swag!

I'm a new member but I'd go bats without GRM and its most excellent folks.

Thanks for telling us how it is and letting us help now rather than later.

This just in: 2020 sucks.

Slippery
Slippery UltraDork
4/1/20 4:47 p.m.
ultraclyde said:
Would you guys consider adding a "supporter" level to forum membership that would involve a flat or monthly fee? A way for those of us who are still employed to keep the wheels on?

I really like this idea. There are many forums that in exchange for a yearly fee allow you to access a "private" section. I know both s2ki.com and bimmerforums.com do that. 
Even without a private section I would be OK with a yearly fee. 

Ottawa (Eric)
Ottawa (Eric) Reader
4/1/20 4:48 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

In reply to CrustyRedXpress :

You know, that's not a bad idea. If you'd just like to send us money, I'm certainly not going to stop you. We're going to search for a more structured way to do this, but in the meantime you can PayPal us money here:

https://www.paypal.me/motorsportmarketing

Sent you some, thanks for being there, stay safe.

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
4/1/20 4:52 p.m.
Slippery said:
ultraclyde said:
Would you guys consider adding a "supporter" level to forum membership that would involve a flat or monthly fee? A way for those of us who are still employed to keep the wheels on?

I really like this idea. There are many forums that in exchange for a yearly fee allow you to access a "private" section. I know both s2ki.com and bimmerforums.com do that. 
Even without a private section I would be OK with a yearly fee. 

I'd be ok with profile badge or a "Supporting Dork" rank or something silly.

Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
4/1/20 4:56 p.m.

Speedtalk (well, Speed-Talk now) is doing a premium access thing for sections of their forum.  David Vizard is a regular there and he often posts some interesting articles, so they have a premium section for DV-specific Q and A.  There are other highly intelligent and articulate motorsports engineers who are on this subscription level as well.

 

I lost interest in the forum because of political BS, so I don't know what happens behind the Fast Pass doors.

PMRacing
PMRacing UltraDork
4/1/20 4:59 p.m.

Once my wife and I are in a solid employment position again, I'm buying several years of subscription service. I wish I could do it now but I am probably being laid off earlier than expected.  This place has been keeping me sane through all the E36 M3.  Thank you GRM and the GRM family!

Raze
Raze UltraDork
4/1/20 4:59 p.m.
ultraclyde said:

Hey guys, before I go re-up my 'scrip and buy  tshirt or two....

Would you guys consider adding a "supporter" level to forum membership that would involve a flat or monthly fee? A way for those of us who are still employed to keep the wheels on?

I'm down like a clown

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 5:00 p.m.

Thank you so much for all of the support!
 

We're still working out the technical glitches, but do plan to offer a Supporting Dork tier in the near future. I'll let everybody know once we get that figured out.

jimbob_racing
jimbob_racing Dork
4/1/20 5:05 p.m.

Would you guys consider offering longer term subscriptions?  That way I can put more money into your pocket right now rather than resubscribe and pay in two years when this unpleasantness is over. 

monark192
monark192 HalfDork
4/1/20 5:06 p.m.

A couple of t shirts ordered and CM subscription renewed.

Powar
Powar UltraDork
4/1/20 5:30 p.m.

I grabbed a couple of shirts, a hat, and some stickers. I've been a member of this forum and subscriber since I was in high school (or sometime just after graduating) and I can't imagine it any other way. I'm definitely tuned in for the 'Supporting Member' status as well.

Toebra
Toebra Dork
4/1/20 5:39 p.m.

I will re new the subscription.  I want an actual magazine I can hold in my hands, I ain't afeared. 

 

I guess maybe I should send SCCA some money too

FSP_ZX2
FSP_ZX2 Dork
4/1/20 5:41 p.m.

Subscribed.

I am old school and prefer the dead-tree version as well.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
4/1/20 6:08 p.m.
Patrick said:
Marjorie Suddard said:

I am reading this through tears. It's been a rough time for not just us, and I am more grateful for this community than you will ever know. 

Margie

The truth is, about 50 of us wouldn't know what the berkeley to do with our lives if the challenge disappeared, so we need to keep you afloat

This forum alone has saved my life, figuratively and literally, more than I can count, and more than I'll admit. I'm serious. Words are not enough to express how much I love all you guys and what you do.

secretariata
secretariata SuperDork
4/1/20 6:11 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

In reply to CrustyRedXpress :

You know, that's not a bad idea. If you'd just like to send us money, I'm certainly not going to stop you. We're going to search for a more structured way to do this, but in the meantime you can PayPal us money here:

https://www.paypal.me/motorsportmarketing

Sent some $.  My subscription is not due for renewal for quite a while and I don't wear black t-shirts.  In these times, y'all are needed more than ever to help keep the inmates at the asylum calm... :)

 

Edit:  Oh and Margie gave us a bread recipe that I have now made 2x... :)

tb
tb Dork
4/1/20 6:19 p.m.

You guys put up with me and my wife likes long sleeve t shirts so that was just a very easy purchase to make.

 

Least I could do; hope to see you in October...

Loweguy5
Loweguy5 Reader
4/1/20 6:22 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

Tom:

A question and a suggestion:

1.  I assume that if I re-subscribe it will just tack on to the end of my current subscription?  According to my label I have a full year left.

2.  Had you guys considered offering longer than 2 year subscriptions?  I've been getting your magazine for at least 10 years.  I would consider a 3, 4 or 5 year option and it might be a way for you to get a little additional cash flow in this time of need.

I'll order some other items too.  I need you guys to hang in there.  We stand with you!

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
4/1/20 6:28 p.m.
secretariata said:

Edit:  Oh and Margie gave us a bread recipe that I have now made 2x... :)

Oh cool! It's a good one, right? This week's challenge: whole wheat bread with a malt additive to help it rise. I'll let you know how that works out.

Margie

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 6:32 p.m.

In reply to Loweguy5 :

Yes, that's correct. It should append to your existing subscription. 
 

We do offer a 10-year subscription for $100, but unfortunately you have to call in order to get it (386-239-0523) due to some order page issues. :( 

appliance_racer
appliance_racer Reader
4/1/20 6:34 p.m.

Quick update:

Me: hey babe, would you send GRM some paypal....

.....long pause.....

Me: did you find their account?

Wife: I found the thread on the forum and bought some shirts and a hoodie.

Me: I bought shirts a couple hours ago.

Wife: Good! Now i have my own GRM stuff!

Me: works for me!

dyintorace
dyintorace PowerDork
4/1/20 6:38 p.m.

How can we tell when our GRM and CM subscriptions are up?

Stampie
Stampie UltimaDork
4/1/20 6:40 p.m.
Marjorie Suddard said:
secretariata said:

Edit:  Oh and Margie gave us a bread recipe that I have now made 2x... :)

Oh cool! It's a good one, right? This week's challenge: whole wheat bread with a malt additive to help it rise. I'll let you know how that works out.

Margie

That sounds close to what I was researching earlier today.  Unfortunately I'm not making bread. 

dyintorace
dyintorace PowerDork
4/1/20 6:40 p.m.

I have a L work shirt that is like new. I just don't wear it. I'll sell it for $50 shipped and send that $50 to GRM. Who wants it?

NermalSnert
NermalSnert Reader
4/1/20 6:41 p.m.

Couldn't get the T-shirt size to work so I got a hat. :)

Loweguy5
Loweguy5 Reader
4/1/20 6:42 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

Hey Tom if we do the 10 year subscription do we get some sort of super cool badge on the forum?  Asking for a friend.

miatafan
miatafan New Reader
4/1/20 6:54 p.m.

Happy subscriber for many years and shirt ordered.  

SuperDave
SuperDave New Reader
4/1/20 7:13 p.m.

Two years of GRM and took the offer on ClassicMotorsports.

Looking forward to the t-shirt and renewing GRM subscription in April 2022.

84FSP
84FSP SuperDork
4/1/20 7:14 p.m.

Swanky new GRM shirt bought.  You keep me and a few others in subscriptions and I find it to be an awesome year long gift for my gearhead buddies.  Keep up the great work all.

tb
tb Dork
4/1/20 7:16 p.m.

In reply to Marjorie Suddard :

Turns out the t shirt isn't enough for the wife, she now wants bread recipes if you dont mind sharing... easier the better for her!

Dirtydog
Dirtydog Dork
4/1/20 7:23 p.m.

Back in the fold............Thank you ALL, for what you do.  Be safe, be healthy.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler PowerDork
4/1/20 7:23 p.m.

Ordered a shirt, some stickers, and re-upped with CM. I'd be happy to kick in to support the forum, too.

I'm fortunate enough to still be employed and reasonably (I hope) secure. Lately I've been trying to increase my support for the things I enjoy from providers that probably aren't doing as well as I am. For instance, I went on Patreon last week and started kicking in for a few more of my favorite podcasters and Youtubers. Also trying to support some of the locally-owned restaurants that I like by getting carryout from them.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 7:28 p.m.

Okay, we're officially ready to give this forum supporter idea a try.

For now, it will just update your username to include "(Forum Supporter)", but assuming it gains some traction I'll toss some money to our developers and have a fancy gold badge or something applied to your posts. 

You can sign up to be a forum supporter here, and I'll update your profile as soon as possible once the order is complete. 

https://www.patreon.com/grassroots_motorsports/

Hopefully this opens the door to allowing us to do more cool stuff like this in the future; let me know what you think, everybody. 

ChrisLS8
ChrisLS8 Reader
4/1/20 7:37 p.m.

I'll be ordering a few shirts for the cause. I wish the anniversary ones were in stock cause as a straight white male I refuse to wear a shirt with a Miata on it

Hasbro
Hasbro SuperDork
4/1/20 7:39 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

yessmiley I has happy!

Slippery
Slippery UltraDork
4/1/20 7:40 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

Just signed up. Thanks!

secretariata
secretariata SuperDork
4/1/20 7:41 p.m.
Marjorie Suddard said:
secretariata said:

Edit:  Oh and Margie gave us a bread recipe that I have now made 2x... :)

Oh cool! It's a good one, right? This week's challenge: whole wheat bread with a malt additive to help it rise. I'll let you know how that works out.

Margie

Yes, I'm enjoying it.  Much better than store bought! smiley

Stampie
Stampie Forum Supporting Dork
4/1/20 7:42 p.m.

Testing

matthewmcl
matthewmcl Reader
4/1/20 7:43 p.m.

Just bought a gift subscription of CM for my dad.

Now that your advertisers are also having a hard time, can we expect a Grassroots Show Your Roots Retro Bonanza Way Back Trip to lower bond paper and black-and-white until the crisis is over?  Everyone still has jobs since you are still printing, but rates can go down allowing advertisers to save some money. How about digging out some really old race coverage since we are down on new races to read about? I never got to read anything from back in the Auto-X days; it would be fun to read things from back when GRM was a hope and a prayer held together with a shoestring.

Matthew

secretariata
secretariata SuperDork
4/1/20 7:44 p.m.
Stampie said:

Testing

I'm jelly...for once I was on the leading edge and don't get the special title... laugh

CSSharpe
CSSharpe
4/1/20 7:49 p.m.

Tim and Margie,

I have been a subscriber since about 1987.  I just renewed for another 18 months and bought another GRM shirt, because you can never have too many of those.  I am sad events are having to be canceled , but much sadder that friends and neighbors are out of work.  A small thing but every little bit counts.  Hang in there and stay healthy.  We shall overcome.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler PowerDork
4/1/20 7:51 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

Okay, we're officially ready to give this forum supporter idea a try.

For now, it will just update your forum title, but assuming it gains some traction I'll toss some money to our developers and have a fancy gold badge or something applied to your posts. 

You can sign up to be a forum supporter here, and I'll update your profile as soon as possible once the order is complete. 

https://www.patreon.com/grassroots_motorsports/

Hopefully this opens the door to allowing us to do more cool stuff like this in the future; let me know what you think, everybody. 

In!

gunner
gunner HalfDork
4/1/20 7:52 p.m.

As soon as I read Crusty reds comment I was thinking, yeah like on patreon and boom a few comments down Tom adds a patreon link. Awesome, joined!

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
4/1/20 7:53 p.m.

In reply to tb :

Here it is... forgive the old-school recipe card, but I hate cooking off my phone... it keeps going to sleep, it gets covered in flour, etc.


 

last couple loaves I upped the salt to 1-3/4 t. Yeah, it's not low sodium... but this is corona-cooking, and we need tasty.

Margie

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 7:54 p.m.

Thank you so much, everybody! Going to take a quick dinner break, but I'll be back to update more titles as soon I'm done.

Hasbro
Hasbro Forum Supporting Dork
4/1/20 7:55 p.m.

In reply to Marjorie Suddard :

Ooooh, a finished camper!

 

 

devil

secretariata
secretariata SuperDork
4/1/20 7:58 p.m.
Hasbro said:

In reply to Marjorie Suddard :

Ooooh, a finished camper!

 

 

devil

Patio fodder right there... cheeky

Stampie
Stampie UltimaDork
4/1/20 7:58 p.m.
secretariata said:
Stampie said:

Testing

I'm jelly...for once I was on the leading edge and don't get the special title... laugh

Well you know SC is always the last to get anything good right?  JK I'm a expat SC boy.

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
4/1/20 7:58 p.m.

In reply to Hasbro :

Shush. I will try to take some time during coronacation to update my build thread... Shasta's coming along.

Margie

LopRacer
LopRacer Dork
4/1/20 8:00 p.m.

Had to replace my shirt and get some new stickers.... anyway.... anything to help the cause, don't know what I would do without you all.

RoadAndSlack
RoadAndSlack Forum Supporting Dork
4/1/20 8:06 p.m.

Awesome! Happy to show my support for GRM!

Antihero
Antihero SuperDork
4/1/20 8:15 p.m.

I signed up, this forum is by far my favorite forum on the internet.

 

Plus I want my name in all in bitchin red herelaugh

ultraclyde
ultraclyde PowerDork
4/1/20 8:19 p.m.

Done and done.

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
4/1/20 8:21 p.m.
Patrick said:
Marjorie Suddard said:

I am reading this through tears. It's been a rough time for not just us, and I am more grateful for this community than you will ever know. 

Margie

The truth is, about 50 of us wouldn't know what the berkeley to do with our lives if the challenge disappeared, so we need to keep you afloat

This. And if it wasn't for the forum and my family, id be alone in this world. This joint IS my support network. And family. 

Least i can do is support the family here.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 8:34 p.m.

Ok, after a few teething issues we're going to play it safe and simply change your displayed screen name to indicate who's supporting and who isn't. 

I know this isn't much, but we'll talk to our developers ASAP about a more-impressive way to thank you. 

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
4/1/20 8:37 p.m.

I will send money on patreon if you change my title to $2000 challenge legend

einy
einy HalfDork
4/1/20 8:38 p.m.

You folks have my patroen support.  I met Tim at the PRI show a couple of years ago, had a nice chat, and left with the thought “man, these are down to Earth people who I really want to support”.  Then (and now) thru subscriptions, more so now because it’s the right thing to do based on what you folks do for all of us.  Thank you.

John

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/1/20 8:49 p.m.

I'm liking the (Forum Supporter) thing.

 

It feels like I'm Antihero (Defender Of The Universe) or something. I feel important and slightly tingly

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 8:51 p.m.

Awesome, glad to hear everyone is enjoying their new titles. I really can't express in words how much this support means to us, everybody. Thank you. 

EastCoastMojo (Forum Supporter)
EastCoastMojo (Forum Supporter) Mod Squad
4/1/20 8:59 p.m.

This community is pretty much all that is keeping me relatively sane at this point, so thank you!

secretariata
secretariata SuperDork
4/1/20 9:01 p.m.
Stampie said:
secretariata said:
Stampie said:

Testing

I'm jelly...for once I was on the leading edge and don't get the special title... laugh

Well you know SC is always the last to get anything good right?  JK I'm a expat SC boy.

Hoping that applies to Corona... laugh

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/1/20 9:20 p.m.
EastCoastMojo (Forum Supporter) said:

This community is pretty much all that is keeping me relatively sane at this point, so thank you!

Sanity is overrated anyway

R56fanatic
R56fanatic New Reader
4/1/20 9:27 p.m.

Just signed up to be a forum supporter, pushing the total to $100/month.  After listening to all the NPR pledge drives "that's only xxx cents a month!" this was a no brainer.  And no pledge drive either!

I had a secret Paypal balance that was reserved for buying car parts... oh well, it was just sitting there, better spent here.

 

Jordan Rimpela
Jordan Rimpela Dork
4/1/20 9:38 p.m.

Well heck, I'm in. You don't have to change my screen name, though. It might wreak havoc on articles I posted. 

Loweguy5
Loweguy5 Reader
4/1/20 9:39 p.m.

I'm happy to be the newest new forum supporter!

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit UltraDork
4/1/20 9:41 p.m.

Re-upped and added CM as I have a new to me MGB that I might have time to work on.

Paul B

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
4/1/20 9:43 p.m.

You guys are unbelievably amazing. I feel like I should be hand-printing tote bags for everyone.

 

Fladiver64
Fladiver64 Reader
4/1/20 9:51 p.m.

Still a newbie compared to most but in for some support.

stanger_missle
stanger_missle UltraDork
4/1/20 9:52 p.m.

I bought some t-shirts, stickers and became a Patreon.

 

It is just a small token of appreciation for everything you guys do at the magazine. 2019 was also the first year I was able to attend the Challenge. I definitely plan on coming back smiley.

Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
4/1/20 9:55 p.m.
JG Pasterjak said:

You guys are unbelievably amazing. I feel like I should be hand-printing tote bags for everyone.

 

Just reflecting the awesome back in your direction.

dherr
dherr Dork
4/1/20 9:56 p.m.

Just signed up as a forum supporter, will look at my subscriptions tomorrow. You all are the best group of people around so we need to all get through this together!

WillG80
WillG80 New Reader
4/1/20 10:01 p.m.

Just subscribed a few months ago, but I bought a shirt. I love the one I got last year. 

pinchvalve
pinchvalve MegaDork
4/1/20 10:02 p.m.

My GRM shirt and hat are prized possessions because Tim sent them to me as a thank you. My new one (2020 design!) will be as special. Thanks Tom for your heartfelt message. 

Floating Doc
Floating Doc UltraDork
4/1/20 10:07 p.m.

I started to write this about four hours ago; since I'm preparing all of the meals and the post dinner time is family time, I'll conclude it now before I resume reading. The discussion was on the third page when I left, so I'll have missed anything posted after about 6:30-7:00.

 

 

Having lost my practice in the recession, I have to admit that I saw this coming.

That said, this is nothing like the Great Recession. That was a slow motion train wreck, this is a total and sudden train wreck, and I can't imagine how stressful this is for the Suddards and all of the GRM family. And that's what it is, a family business, or more personally and as I've said in the past, my favorite family business.

I really like the idea of a paid subscription to the forum. I pay $760 or 780 (I forget the exact amount) a year to belong to the Veterinary Information Network. Obviously, that's much more than an internet forum. We also can obtain consultations, read case studies, take continuing education classes, and much more. My point is, that there's a value to the forum, and I feel that it's reasonable for me, as a user of the forum, to expect to be able to contribute.

Floating Doc
Floating Doc UltraDork
4/1/20 10:19 p.m.
JG Pasterjak said:

You guys are unbelievably amazing. I feel like I should be hand-printing tote bags for everyone.

 

Yeah, but I think it's better to keep the overhead to a minimum. However, I still want a ride in the C5 (I got to sit in it and pick your brain when we got rained out last year at Daytona).

I'm in for the patreon support; not much yet. I have a job, but I'm sitting it out at home, I don't know when the next paycheck is coming.

Woody
Woody MegaDork
4/1/20 10:28 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

Maybe it's just me, but I was a little more comfortable with the PayPal idea than I am with the Patreon thing. Can we still go the PayPal route?

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 10:33 p.m.

Yes, you can pay for Patreon with PayPal. 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
4/1/20 10:37 p.m.
JG Pasterjak said:

You guys are unbelievably amazing. I feel like I should be hand-printing tote bags for everyone.

 

No joke, dude, I  read that as hand-printing toe tags.  No, GRM isn't toast yet. Not if we have anything to say about it. 

tb
tb Dork
4/1/20 10:38 p.m.

In reply to Marjorie Suddard :

Many thanks! I will transcribe it as I also prefer recipe cards.

 

My wife hasn't been down to Gainesville in 10 years; I should make her come this year (if it all happens) so she can chat you up for more!

EastCoastMojo (Forum Supporter)
EastCoastMojo (Forum Supporter) Mod Squad
4/1/20 10:42 p.m.
Appleseed said:
JG Pasterjak said:

You guys are unbelievably amazing. I feel like I should be hand-printing tote bags for everyone.

 

No joke, dude, I  read that as hand-printing toe tags.  No, GRM isn't toast yet. Not if we have anything to say about it. 

You can never be too prepared, right? Can I get in on the toe tags? I may need one one of those. 

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UberDork
4/1/20 10:44 p.m.

I can't wait for fall!  Just ordered a beanie and a zippered hoodie.

 

I love y'all.  I only have a few shirts I got from subscriptions over the years.  Time to step up my GRM game.

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones Reader
4/1/20 10:45 p.m.

I couldn't love GRM the magazine or the website more, and believe me, I don't like to be the P.C police or anything or the guy who has a problem with everything thing, but I do have a problem with this... 

I find it a bit offensive that you use terms like “Forum supporter"....

 

too soon?

Floating Doc
Floating Doc UltraDork
4/1/20 10:46 p.m.

Hey, enough of the toe tag talk!

We're all going to get through this together! smiley

Woody
Woody MegaDork
4/1/20 10:51 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

This thing is fighting me. Firefox is blocking Patreon as a Social Media tracking device.

I just want to send you guys some money...GrrRrrMm...sad

Stefan
Stefan MegaDork
4/1/20 10:52 p.m.
Steve_Jones said:

I couldn't love GRM the magazine or the website more, and believe me, I don't like to be the P.C police or anything or the guy who has a problem with everything thing, but I do have a problem with this... 

I find it a bit offensive that you use terms like “Forum supporter"....

 

too soon?

I love you for this.  I could not find a copy of this anywhere.  That was an awesome thread.  Thank you for bringing that memory back up for me and others who were there.

Ill toss my samoliens into the collection plate next.  Just gotta get the last kid to bed.

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
4/1/20 11:17 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

Sorry about that, shirt inventories are now updated. We've got plenty of XLs arriving on a truck tomorrow!

I wish there was a way to order back shirts in 2x sizes....my GRM 'ninja' shirt was in an unfortunate angle grinder incident. I'd love to replace it.

regardless, I will find a something to order tomorrow.

 

GTwannaB
GTwannaB HalfDork
4/1/20 11:17 p.m.

I just upped for two more years on top of my subscription. That should take me to 20 years of subscribing if I read my address label correctly. You folks rock!

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/1/20 11:28 p.m.

In reply to Woody :

Oh, sure, here you go:

https://www.paypal.me/motorsportmarketing

Kanek
Kanek
4/1/20 11:38 p.m.

Made an account and grabbed a subscription so hopefully every bit helps to keep you and the forums around for a long time!

CJ
CJ HalfDork
4/1/20 11:46 p.m.

Have subscribed to GRM and Classic Motorsports.  Bought a shirt and sent some cash.  Thanks for all you do.

Carry on.  Please

Edit - reading through what I skipped and found the Patreon link.  I'm in.

The0retical
The0retical UberDork
4/2/20 12:16 a.m.

I blow more than 3 bucks a month on stupid crap. I know it's not much, but my sales have dropped dead as well this month.

Looks like I'm #30.

spacecadet
spacecadet SuperDork
4/2/20 1:04 a.m.

Send me the merch i bought once this pandemic is over. Keep the money for now.  

 

Annnnnd also #31 ... You guys mean the world to me.. 

 

​​​​​Mazdeuce once said to me

"Do Rad things...... and Rad things will happen to you."

 

You guys do Rad things and we will all support you until the world actually ends. 

 

​​​​

newold_m
newold_m New Reader
4/2/20 1:15 a.m.

Subscribed as well. Patreon was saying processing times are longer than normal and have not received a confirmation email yet. 

LoneWolf
LoneWolf New Reader
4/2/20 1:20 a.m.

Just renewed for two years, and donated via PayPal.

Good luck to the GRM staff, and everyone out there.

03Panther
03Panther Reader
4/2/20 4:01 a.m.
spacecadet said:

Send me the merch i bought once this pandemic is over. Keep the money for now.  

 

Annnnnd also #31 ... You guys mean the world to me.. 

 

​​​​​Mazdeuce once said to me

"Do Rad things...... and Rad things will happen to you."

 

You guys do Rad things and we will all support you until the world actually ends. 

 

​​​​

It's not impossible, We just haven't figured out how to do it yet.

WELL SAID!

wae
wae UltraDork
4/2/20 5:03 a.m.

Mark me down as forum supporter #35!  That's a pretty awesome idea.  I have no idea which email address will wind up showing up in there, though.  I can tell you that it'll be the only one from @putrescence.org, though!

Hasbro (Forum Supporter)
Hasbro (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/2/20 5:04 a.m.

Tom,  how about a contribute button on the main page and a contribute specific thread? A lot of people will miss the opportunity if it's just on this thread.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
4/2/20 5:35 a.m.

a few years supply of teeshirts ordered.

 

Gonna call later about subscripton.

 

 

You guys ever consider doing a kids size shirt?

stroker
stroker UltraDork
4/2/20 6:03 a.m.

I'll borrow a suggestion for the Gastropod T-Shirts thread--what about a GRM shirt with our Avatar name and "GRM Forum Supporter:" or "GRM Patron" on the back?  Make one production run, maybe?  Limited Edition Buy it Now?  Perhaps do one run of shirts in a different color/artwork per year until things are back to "normal"?  

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
4/2/20 6:41 a.m.
Hasbro (Forum Supporter) said:

Tom,  how about a contribute button on the main page and a contribute specific thread? A lot of people will miss the opportunity if it's just on this thread.

This. 
 

Ive been on this forum for 16 years, and would be happy to donate. 
 

However, right now I'm trying to survive. I read the first few posts on page 1, and the last couple on this page. I really don't have time to dig through this entire thread to figure out how to donate. 
 

Please make it more obvious. Or feel free to use my email address (and others')  to solicit directly. 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/2/20 6:43 a.m.

In reply to SVreX :

Don't worry, we'll make the donate button more prominent soon. Just making sure there aren't any issues we didn't see coming before taking too many people's money. 

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
4/2/20 6:45 a.m.

Some stuff ordered.  Break a leg, guys.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider UltraDork
4/2/20 6:54 a.m.

I don't log in for a day and miss this. :) 

 

Always happy to help you guys. It's the greatest community on the net. So I got the latest t-shirt and made a monthly contribution. 

 

Till we can see each other on the track......

 

Mike

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
4/2/20 6:56 a.m.
Tom Suddard said:

Okay, we're officially ready to give this forum supporter idea a try.

For now, it will just update your username to include "(Forum Supporter)", but assuming it gains some traction I'll toss some money to our developers and have a fancy gold badge or something applied to your posts. 

You can sign up to be a forum supporter here, and I'll update your profile as soon as possible once the order is complete. 

https://www.patreon.com/grassroots_motorsports/

Hopefully this opens the door to allowing us to do more cool stuff like this in the future; let me know what you think, everybody. 

Tom:

Can you add the ability to do a one-time gift if an undefined amount?

I'm trying to give you a lot more money.  $3 is not enough.  
 

I'd also like to do it as a one time gift, not a monthly repeat. Financial matters are too scary right now to commit to repeating amounts. 

ultraclyde (Forum Supporter)
ultraclyde (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
4/2/20 6:59 a.m.
SVreX said:
Tom Suddard said:

Okay, we're officially ready to give this forum supporter idea a try.

For now, it will just update your username to include "(Forum Supporter)", but assuming it gains some traction I'll toss some money to our developers and have a fancy gold badge or something applied to your posts. 

You can sign up to be a forum supporter here, and I'll update your profile as soon as possible once the order is complete. 

https://www.patreon.com/grassroots_motorsports/

Hopefully this opens the door to allowing us to do more cool stuff like this in the future; let me know what you think, everybody. 

Tom:

Can you add the ability to do a one-time gift if an undefined amount?

I'm trying to give you a lot more money.  $3 is not enough.  

I thought the same thing, I was expecting $5 or $10 a month, at least. I think you could probably use the PayPal link they put up on the first page to do a one-time.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
4/2/20 7:10 a.m.
JG Pasterjak said:

You guys are unbelievably amazing. I feel like I should be hand-printing tote bags for everyone.

 

Why is it I see you hunched over a table with a sharpie, tongue sticking out trying to fill in a name on a tote bag? 

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
4/2/20 7:27 a.m.

What's a "feedback rebate?" I don't need no stinkin' Feedback Rebate.  How can I donate that to GRM?  Why can't you just keep it?

MTechnically
MTechnically Reader
4/2/20 7:29 a.m.

I'm pretty new here, but even still the value of this community is apparent.

Bought a shirt and joined the patreon. It's just a fraction of what I spend on this hobby. Here's to hoping we can all get through this together.

einy (Forum Supporter)
einy (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
4/2/20 7:48 a.m.
MTechnically said

Bought a shirt and joined the patreon. It's just a fraction of what I spend on this hobby. Here's to hoping we can all get through this together.

Amen to that, brother !

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/2/20 7:53 a.m.
bobzilla said:
JG Pasterjak said:

You guys are unbelievably amazing. I feel like I should be hand-printing tote bags for everyone.

 

Why is it I see you hunched over a table with a sharpie, tongue sticking out trying to fill in a name on a tote bag? 

If this is a thing......I sometimes go by High Lord Eric King of Awesome cheeky

 

(It's an actual thing and a somewhat funny story)

Professor_Brap
Professor_Brap SuperDork
4/2/20 7:57 a.m.

Just made a order and bought a friend a subscription. 

Aaron_King
Aaron_King PowerDork
4/2/20 8:06 a.m.

Ordered some stuff, hang in there guys.

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
4/2/20 8:15 a.m.
tb said:

In reply to Marjorie Suddard :

Many thanks! I will transcribe it as I also prefer recipe cards.

 

My wife hasn't been down to Gainesville in 10 years; I should make her come this year (if it all happens) so she can chat you up for more!

I'm pretty much a one-trick pony on baking... just fiddled my white bread til it was absolutely reliable. I'm gonna start working on whole wheat, though.

Now, non-baking? I can talk recipes all day.

Margie

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
4/2/20 8:21 a.m.

I couldn't love GRM the magazine or the website more, and believe me, I don't like to be the P.C police or anything or the guy who has a problem with everything thing, but I do have a problem with this... I find it a bit offensive that you use terms like “pandemic" and "economy" for your little descriptions or whatever in the discussions. I myself do not make cultural references, but I feel sensitivity for people who do, as I am a student living among them, and my Girlfriend is pursuing her masters in the field.

These terms although I'm pretty sure are not even real words, are obviously meant to resemble the words used to describe people who spend a disproportionate amount of time posting on message boards, and it appears that they are used on these boards in a joking sense which, as I view it, makes light of people who spend a lot of time here.

 

Resubscribed, despite having a small pile of mags that I still haven't found time to read. 

 

 

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JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
4/2/20 8:23 a.m.
bobzilla said:
JG Pasterjak said:

You guys are unbelievably amazing. I feel like I should be hand-printing tote bags for everyone.

 

Why is it I see you hunched over a table with a sharpie, tongue sticking out trying to fill in a name on a tote bag? 

Oh crap did I leave my webcam on?

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair MegaDork
4/2/20 8:24 a.m.

since i'm working from home, and for as long as i'm working from home, GRM gets a cut of my saved gas $.  this forum has been family to me for about 20 years now, and i'm a better husband / father / plumber / welder / electrician / budgeter / etc because of you all.

questions:

1.  for those of you who posted your "supporter number", where did you get that info?

2. i didn't see the instruction to sign up for Patreon with the same email as the forum until after i completed the sign-up process, so i went back and changed the email in my Patreon profile to match my forum email.  will i still get the (Forum Supporter) designation?

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair MegaDork
4/2/20 8:25 a.m.

also, GRM socks with personalized toe tag info would be expensive to make but totally worth it IMO.

TVR Scott
TVR Scott Dork
4/2/20 8:28 a.m.

I'm in.

Stefan
Stefan MegaDork
4/2/20 8:44 a.m.
Stefan said:
Steve_Jones said:

I couldn't love GRM the magazine or the website more, and believe me, I don't like to be the P.C police or anything or the guy who has a problem with everything thing, but I do have a problem with this... 

I find it a bit offensive that you use terms like “Forum supporter"....

 

too soon?

I love you for this.  I could not find a copy of this anywhere.  That was an awesome thread.  Thank you for bringing that memory back up for me and others who were there.

Ill toss my samoliens into the collection plate next.  Just gotta get the last kid to bed.

A bit late, but I'm in.  If I can pay $5/month for PBS access, I can pay $3/month for equal or better education.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/2/20 8:45 a.m.

Thanks again for all the support, everybody! I'm working through the list and applying your new titles now.

Loweguy5 (Forum Supporter)
Loweguy5 (Forum Supporter) Reader
4/2/20 8:46 a.m.

In reply to AngryCorvair :

It sounded like Tom will tie it out based on the email you used to set up the account.  I use two regularly, so I sent him a note clarifying my identity.

11GTCS
11GTCS New Reader
4/2/20 8:48 a.m.

Just signed up for a subscription.   Please stay well all!

Professor_Brap
Professor_Brap SuperDork
4/2/20 8:49 a.m.

Patreon is being weird fyi, wouldn't take a car but did take PayPal

Floating Doc
Floating Doc UltraDork
4/2/20 8:56 a.m.

In reply to AngryCorvair :

When I followed the Patreon link, it said I would be number 25 of 50. I don't recall if it designated my number after I signed up.

That's me. Middle of the pack, just like my autocross skills. Totally appropriate.

I feel petty for asking, how do I get the contributor designation?

 

Professor_Brap
Professor_Brap SuperDork
4/2/20 8:57 a.m.
Floating Doc said:

In reply to AngryCorvair :

When I followed the Patreon link, it said I would be number 25 of 50. I don't recall if it designated my number after I signed up.

That's me. Middle of the pack, just like my autocross skills. Totally appropriate.

I feel petty for asking, how do I get the contributor designation?

 

I believe donating on patreon with your email attached to your account here. 

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
4/2/20 8:59 a.m.
Floating Doc said:

I feel petty for asking, how do I get the contributor designation?

 

Manually added by Tom. 

ZOO
ZOO UltraDork
4/2/20 9:08 a.m.

Thanks for everything that all of you do to create this content, and to host us loonies!  I've learned so much from this community, and I've enjoyed being virtually connected for a long, long time. 

Rob

Boostaddict
Boostaddict
4/2/20 9:09 a.m.

Long time lurker here.

This is arguably the best automotive forum on the planet, just subscribed to the magazine and Patreon. 

GPz11
GPz11 Reader
4/2/20 9:09 a.m.

Support just sent via Paypal

xflowgolf
xflowgolf SuperDork
4/2/20 9:13 a.m.

I like the donation based forum supporter idea.  To promote it, maybe try to incorporate a forum topper or something as part of a static link that shows up for anyone that visits the forum... kind of like the "Buy a Subscription" red button at the top of the browser window?   

I'm a print subscriber, and after moving and renewing I'm now actually receiving 2 copies a month to my house... ha.  I also have found the discussion and perspectives provided here to be refreshing and productive regardless of category of discussion.  I'm terrible at finishing my own automotive projects, but this place provides some hope, sanity, and direction through the chaos of life and I'd be happy to support as well.  

 

Woody
Woody MegaDork
4/2/20 9:15 a.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

I went old (-ish) school and just sent you something by PayPal.

Thanks for supplying us with this venue. Please keep up the great work and stay healthy.

Paul_VR6
Paul_VR6 Dork
4/2/20 9:15 a.m.

Two things:

Can we get a 10 yr subscription option?

Can you make paypal a payment option pleeeeease? (on conference calls all day tied to my laptop and can't get up to get my wallet....)

Tim Suddard
Tim Suddard Publisher
4/2/20 9:16 a.m.

Thanks everyone. I think this will help.

Margie and I voluntarily reduced our already conservative salaries, in anticipation of what the next few months will bring. 

Thankfully, she has been fiscally smart and we are not rolling around in new Porsches (ok, maybe an old Porsche and an even older BMW) but she has been smart and saved some for a rainy day.

Every business is advised to have 3-6 months back up money. How many do? We will soon find out.

Personally, while I can't sell much right now, I am writing and posting more than I have in years and I should have every project car done in just a few weeks.

 

NermalSnert
NermalSnert Reader
4/2/20 9:17 a.m.

https://www.patreon.com/grassroots_motorsports/

Keeping this easy to find.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
4/2/20 9:18 a.m.
JG Pasterjak said:
bobzilla said:
JG Pasterjak said:

You guys are unbelievably amazing. I feel like I should be hand-printing tote bags for everyone.

 

Why is it I see you hunched over a table with a sharpie, tongue sticking out trying to fill in a name on a tote bag? 

Oh crap did I leave my webcam on?

No... I've just seen you enough in real life I can see it in my head clear as day. 

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
4/2/20 9:20 a.m.

Hey, just called and did 10 years on each at $100 per.  They throw in a shirt or a hat when you do that. 

 

Sweet deal, I spend close to that on one year of Racecar Engineering. 

 

Now to break it to my wife that one of her easy button birthday/christmas items for me is off the list for the next decade, lol.

volvoclearinghouse
volvoclearinghouse PowerDork
4/2/20 9:25 a.m.

Maintaining my subscription to CMS.  Thanks for all you do- and for maintaining this forum for all, free of charge.  I don't FB- this is my social media escape.  

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo Reader
4/2/20 9:27 a.m.

Hope you are taking advantage of some of the government relief programs - PPP for example.

Just placed an order for a shirt - thanks for keeping GRM up and running!

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair MegaDork
4/2/20 9:34 a.m.

this thread needs a sticky

also, it's been good to see Tim Suddard on the forum recently.  maybe not a silver lining for Tim, but definitely is for me.  

xflowgolf
xflowgolf SuperDork
4/2/20 9:34 a.m.
NermalSnert said:

https://www.patreon.com/grassroots_motorsports/

Keeping this easy to find.

Thanks.  I just signed up as well.  Not sure how or if it links my Facebook ID to my username, but we'll see.  

Stampie (Forum Supporter)
Stampie (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
4/2/20 9:38 a.m.
NermalSnert said:

https://www.patreon.com/grassroots_motorsports/

Keeping this easy to find.

And now clickable.

https://www.patreon.com/grassroots_motorsports/

Tim Suddard said:
...and I should have every project car done in just a few weeks.

 

I expect a build thread on the lobby Mercedes, then.

EastCoastMojo (Forum Supporter)
EastCoastMojo (Forum Supporter) Mod Squad
4/2/20 9:38 a.m.

Stickiness applied. laughyes

For those who are signing up for Paetron with a different e-mail than you use on the forum (or aren't sure if the email is the same) there is a notes field when you complete your Paetron contribution. Entering your username there might make it easier for Tom to link your Forum Supporter title.

Tyler H (Forum Supporter)
Tyler H (Forum Supporter) UberDork
4/2/20 9:48 a.m.

Re-upped my subscription, got a shirt, and signed up at Patreon.   You guys are a huge portion of my digital entertainment time everyday.  Keep kicking ass!

chaparral
chaparral Dork
4/2/20 9:51 a.m.

Renewed for 10 years. This forum has been invaluable to me. 

Dirtydog
Dirtydog Dork
4/2/20 9:51 a.m.

Hope I did it right, but I think I'm in.  Ham fisted computer skills at best.

gunner (Forum Supporter)
gunner (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
4/2/20 9:52 a.m.

A heads up about the patreon link because I was so confused about the only option being $3. Once you click on the button below it, the page it takes you too you can change the $3 to any amount you want taken out.

Nicole Suddard
Nicole Suddard New Reader
4/2/20 9:57 a.m.

Hey folks!

For everyone who asked about the 10 year subscriptions, I'm working on getting that added as an option on the online form up so you won't have to call in to sign up. :)

Thanks so much for your support! I'm fairly new to this (relative to everyone else on the staff and everyone else with my last name), and reading through this thread I have been continuously amazed with how dedicated you all are to this community and to supporting what we do. Y'all are awesome. 

As a token of my gratitude, I will post the tried-and-true recipe I use for challah in the bread thread. 

CrustyRedXpress
CrustyRedXpress Reader
4/2/20 10:01 a.m.

In reply to ultraclyde (Forum Supporter) :

On Patreon you can just type in the amount you want to pay before entering the payment info.  There is a note that most people go for 5 or 10 per month.

Looks like we're up to 54 supporters =)

Loweguy5 (Forum Supporter)
Loweguy5 (Forum Supporter) Reader
4/2/20 10:06 a.m.

Just as an aside, please keep in mind your favorite race teams and parts suppliers are hurting too.  I've ordered a few new shirts from teams and am amassing a list of new items I need for the Neon right now.  No question every dollar we spend right now will help the whole industry survive this mess.

mblommel
mblommel Dork
4/2/20 10:08 a.m.

Just bought a shirt. Will be back in a few weeks for a hat to spread out the cash. Will donate $$$ too if it comes to it. Whatever it takes for you guys to keep the lights on. 

ultraclyde (Forum Supporter)
ultraclyde (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
4/2/20 10:16 a.m.
CrustyRedXpress said:

In reply to ultraclyde (Forum Supporter) :

On Patreon you can just type in the amount you want to pay before entering the payment info.  There is a note that most people go for 5 or 10 per month.

Looks like we're up to 54 supporters =)

AWESOME. For all of those that missed this the first time, you can also go to you Patreon membership page (link in your confirmation email) and 

EDIT YOUR AMOUNT TO INCREASE IT.

I upped mine. Up yours!

 

Patrick ($2000 Challenge Legend)
Patrick ($2000 Challenge Legend) MegaDork
4/2/20 10:24 a.m.
Tom Suddard said:

In reply to Woody :

Oh, sure, here you go:

https://www.paypal.me/motorsportmarketing

Got ya via this.  Easier for me that way.  

captdownshift
captdownshift UltimaDork
4/2/20 10:24 a.m.

Without having read through the full 8 pages, I purpose a subscription option.

$100 per a year subscription option. It's not about cashflow (though that doesn't hurt) as it is about showing advertisers how much you mean to us and how much we value the content you provide. Keep track and tabs of the number of $100 subscriptions to add into the media kit information for current and potential advertisers. 

russde
russde Reader
4/2/20 10:32 a.m.

I'm ordering another BLACK t-shirt, to go with my other 4, and probably a gray hoodie...

But PLEASE have the t-shirt folks print some on white, gray, blue, red...anything other than black; I swear I'd buy 4 of those!

secretariata (Forum Supporter)
secretariata (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/2/20 10:33 a.m.
Tom Suddard said:

Thanks again for all the support, everybody! I'm working through the list and applying your new titles now.

Tom,

I donated via papal on 4/1 before the "Forum Supporter" thing happened. Didn't think to put my user name in as a note. Any chance when things slow down I can get that designation? I have one of them there yahoo emails so I can't send/receive PM's or I would have asked that way. My paypal should have **EditedOut** in it...Thx.

captdownshift
captdownshift UltimaDork
4/2/20 10:34 a.m.

In reply to Marjorie Suddard :

There are storms which I would not have been able to weather without them. They are the absolute best. 

secretariata
secretariata SuperDork
4/2/20 10:37 a.m.
russde said:

I'm ordering another BLACK t-shirt, to go with my other 4, and probably a gray hoodie...

But PLEASE have the t-shirt folks print some on white, gray, blue, red...anything other than black; I swear I'd buy 4 of those!

I'd be in for t-shirts in lighter colors. I know black doesn't show grease as well, but I have to do all my wrenching in the driveway and dark colors are just to darn hot...

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
4/2/20 10:39 a.m.
captdownshift said:

In reply to Marjorie Suddard :

There are storms which I would not have been able to weather without them. They are the absolute best. 

You know, we need to add the ability to heart a post. Should probably add it to the long, long list.

Margie

slowride
slowride Dork
4/2/20 10:42 a.m.

I subscribed. Good luck guys. I also work in publishing and our print edition is on the way out this year, I'm sure.

 

BTW: I don't need the t-shirt (I left my size blank).

In reply to Patrick ($2000 Challenge Legend) :

oh yeah?  well check out *my* title!

iansane
iansane New Reader
4/2/20 10:50 a.m.

I'm new, haven't been to any events, and don't post a lot but I do read this forum practically every day as well as appreciate the wealth of knowledge and hilarity I see here daily. I joined on Patreon and will subscribe this evening. Thank you all.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
4/2/20 10:51 a.m.
Nicole Suddard said:

Hey folks!

For everyone who asked about the 10 year subscriptions, I'm working on getting that added as an option on the online form up so you won't have to call in to sign up. :)

Thanks so much for your support! I'm fairly new to this (relative to everyone else on the staff and everyone else with my last name), and reading through this thread I have been continuously amazed with how dedicated you all are to this community and to supporting what we do. Y'all are awesome. 

As a token of my gratitude, I will post the tried-and-true recipe I use for challah in the bread thread. 

Excellent! As soon as I see what the finances look like, I plan on reupping for 10 years on both magazines. I really enjoyed the article on RUF Yellowbird in latest CM. 

Thanks to all this madness, I officially just made the first payment on a car I don't even have in my possesion yet! lol

Curtis73
Curtis73 MegaDork
4/2/20 10:53 a.m.

I'm in.  How much do I have to give for my title to say "Forum Consigliere?"

Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
4/2/20 10:59 a.m.

Been a subscriber since 2004-ish. Just ordered a new t-shirt and re-upped the subscription back in December. You are my first Patreon uh subscription? Anyway, I read GRM every day and that's worth the scarce money to me. 

Totally in for a red shirt. Already have white and two blacks (all different designs).

pimpm3
pimpm3 UltraDork
4/2/20 11:04 a.m.

I am officially a forum supporter now.  I think I will order a new GRM shirt to celebrate...

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/2/20 11:10 a.m.

You guys rock. 

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/2/20 11:12 a.m.

Curious...

How many hits a day does this site generate?

Jerry From LA
Jerry From LA SuperDork
4/2/20 11:14 a.m.

Do you guys feel like George Bailey yet?

Don49
Don49 Dork
4/2/20 11:21 a.m.

I just mailed a renewal for 2 years 6 months early. Check enclosed.

Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
4/2/20 11:21 a.m.

I am having difficulty with setting up on Patreon but I'll work on it later tonight.

 

edit:  Nevermind, I just signed up with a different e-mail address.

oldopelguy (Forum Supporter)
oldopelguy (Forum Supporter) UberDork
4/2/20 11:41 a.m.

I remember in the late 80s when all the brick and mortar specialty parts suppliers started drying up.  I could go into any parts store in the country in 1985 and they had parts on hand for an Opel or Datsun or stuff with flatheads and fins. Then those things had to be special ordered. By 1994 I had to order a batch of 50 key blanks or valve cover gaskets to get even one.

Then the internet and Ebay happened and even though they weren't making stuff what was out there still was suddenly available, and it suddenly got easier to own weird cars.

Then as the internet matured, cross referencing and upgrading and restomoding became things because we figured out that we could do things because we had evidence that someone else had already done it. 

Then, with access to niche markets, hyper specialty stores starting popping up, catering to small batch of enthusiasts on a global scale.  Group buys and such turned into full time jobs for marquee providers, and things got almost as good as they once were, albeit perhaps more expensive due to less competition.  Some of the big names in mail order didn't adapt to the internet and got left behind, like PAW.

Then 2008 hit, and the fragile industries that were relying on the disposable income from car enthusiasts took a hit, because the income wasn't there. The barely hanging on small providers failed. 

Now this hits, at a time when the whole industry was already struggling with a generation that doesn't really want to drive hitting their prime. I suspect that we're going to see lots of smaller players disappear.  Then we're going to see the fringe cars, 4-doors, off-years, lesser suported makes, start flooding the market, especially in project cars needing that one piece of glass, chrome, or whatever that just isn't available.  Value will plummet, dragging the next most vulnerable down too, and we're going to see auction values dropping for anything not perfect. 

I think the day of using a car as an investment are over, and I don't think we'll ever see the kind of variety we once did again, on the street, at dhows, or on the track. 

Patrick (Angry is a Wanker)
Patrick (Angry is a Wanker) MegaDork
4/2/20 11:41 a.m.
AngryCorvair (Moar Legendarier than Patrick Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Patrick ($2000 Challenge Legend) :

oh yeah?  well check out *my* title!

What?  I can't hear you over the sound of the crickets in your garage 

 

 

Ransom
Ransom UltimaDork
4/2/20 11:43 a.m.

I think there was mention of somewhere to put one's username or GRM email in the Patreon process, but I missed it...

Sometimes it feels like I spend too much time here, but there's no denying this forum and the magazines (and the folks behind them!) are big deals to me!

Pete. (Athletic Supporter)
Pete. (Athletic Supporter) MegaDork
4/2/20 11:48 a.m.
Patrick (Angry is a Wanker) said:
AngryCorvair (Moar Legendarier than Patrick Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Patrick ($2000 Challenge Legend) :

oh yeah?  well check out *my* title!

What?  I can't hear you over the sound of the crickets in your garage 

Would you say they are noisy crickets?

Pete. (Forum Supporter)
Pete. (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/2/20 11:49 a.m.
Ransom said:

I think there was mention of somewhere to put one's username or GRM email in the Patreon process, but I missed it...

I didn't see where so I just shot them a direct message.

Cotton
Cotton PowerDork
4/2/20 11:59 a.m.

Thanks Tom for all you guys do.  I just picked up a short sleeve from Classic and a long sleeve from Grassroots.  

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku UltimaDork
4/2/20 12:01 p.m.

 

 Bought a shirt and some merch. Signed up for Patreon.

 

 Don't know what I would do with out this place.  We have been gifted  such a great place to play and must be sure it survives.

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago UltraDork
4/2/20 12:09 p.m.

Just got my first GRM shirt (I know, I know), a set of those sweet diecut GRM stickers, and became a forum supporter. I'm glad y'all started that option. I'm on here all the time so it's nice to give back.

The only problem is that I don't know where to put the stickers. There isn't a lot of glass on a Miata, so maybe my truck will masquerade as a race car...

Mustang50
Mustang50 Reader
4/2/20 12:10 p.m.

Just renewed my subscription for 2 years.   You guys better stay in business or my wife will divorce me for wasting the $35.99.  On second thought that may be worth it.

Javelin
Javelin MegaDork
4/2/20 12:17 p.m.

In reply to thatsnowinnebago :

Cars come and go, but your toolbox is forever.

BlueInGreen - Jon
BlueInGreen - Jon SuperDork
4/2/20 12:17 p.m.

I just re subscribed a few months ago but I could use some new t shirts and I didn’t know we could get back issues from the store! Now I’m about to spend some $$ there to fill in the gaps of my collection of GRM Challenge and UTCC issues. I keep those ones after reading but I think a bunch got lost when we moved.

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
4/2/20 12:22 p.m.
Javelin said:

In reply to thatsnowinnebago :

Cars come and go, but your toolbox is forever.

Toolboxes, cabinets, air tanks, laptops, garage windows. The possibilities are endless!

klipless
klipless Reader
4/2/20 12:44 p.m.

I would classify myself as more of a 'heavy lurker' than active participant, but I suspect that there are quite a few of us out there. This site is a great source of entertainment for me, and I love living vicariously though the different projects. As such, I'm happy to show both encouragement and financial support. 

I have yet to find another forum that spans such a broad cross section of the automotive space. But what's truly remarkable is the respect that permeates this site. Something about hiding behind a keyboard brings out the worst in people, yet this forum is one of the most friendly places on the internet. I feel like GRM has captured lighting in a bottle. To loose that would be a tragedy.

Cheers!

Greg Smith
Greg Smith Dork
4/2/20 1:45 p.m.
JG Pasterjak said:

You guys are unbelievably amazing. I feel like I should be hand-printing tote bags for everyone.

 

jg

only if you WASH YOUR HANDS! :)

Tom1200
Tom1200 Dork
4/2/20 1:49 p.m.

I've been meaning to finally subscribe to Classic Motorsports but I'll get online and subscribe to both publications.........I've been abusing this forum as a non subscriber long enough.

driver95 (Forum Supporter)
driver95 (Forum Supporter) New Reader
4/2/20 1:57 p.m.

Long time lurker. Signed up for Patreon and bought a shirt. This is easily the best forum of which I have been a member. You guys are civil and always offer good advice (even when the truth is hard). Paying monthly for forum support is an easy way to keep this great community going.

 

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
4/2/20 2:01 p.m.

I tacked on another year to my subscription (I'm now good to 2023) and said to keep the shirt to save you guys the cost.  I wish I could do more, but I'm not in a position right now where that's possible.  

Please stay safe, everyone.

1LapSRT
1LapSRT New Reader
4/2/20 2:06 p.m.

Bought a couple t-shirts and a couple stickers (since I don't have many of those) and even chose to pay for shipping. 

I also need to throw my name in the hat for UTCC since the date has changed to something more suitable for my schedule.

 

bobtms
bobtms New Reader
4/2/20 2:06 p.m.

Just signed up to be a Patreon supporter -- with my limited funds, I just wanted to contribute straight to your bottom line. Anything else is good in normal times, but I wanted to avoid adding to your future cost of operations.

IMHO, GRM has done more to integrate and elevate the amateur motorsports industry than any other entity on earth.  GRM is the glue the binds racers with sanctioning bodies, tracks, OEMs, and the aftermarket.

GRM:  Please relax advertising prices, which I know are key to your business model.  I know that your advertisers' marketing $ will be cut quickly to preserve their payrolls, yet this action sacrifices their future revenues to keep them afloat for now (like coasting with the clutch in to save gas).  As a mediocre racer and mechanic of questionable ability, I believe we all need those businesses to stay afloat.  We benefit from their organization, innovation and scale of operation, which reduces our costs and enhances our experience.  As one example: a Wilwood aluminum front hub for a Miata is cheap in "low volume production", yet exorbitant (and possibly unsafe) if the R&D costs can't be shared with other racers.  I was at Thunder Hill a couple of years ago when their shop Miata lost a hub, from which they learned it was a common source of failure and pain, and vowed to fix this for others.  Since then, Miata maniacs more safely and consistently enjoyed our hobby than we could have if we tried to individually solved such common platform problems with custom solutions. 

GRM:  If you need more dough, please let the community know!  Stay safe, sane and well!

 

- Capt'n, Yellow Submarine CRX Racing

SlowNB
SlowNB New Reader
4/2/20 2:12 p.m.

My subscription lapsed last month, this thread was just the motivation I needed to fix that problem. Also looking forward to wearing a sweet GRM hoodie! Thank you for this awesome community you have created!

Javelin (Forum Supporter)
Javelin (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/2/20 2:17 p.m.
Greg Smith said:
JG Pasterjak said:

You guys are unbelievably amazing. I feel like I should be hand-printing tote bags for everyone.

 

jg

only if you WASH YOUR HANDS! :)

/Died

Aaron_King
Aaron_King PowerDork
4/2/20 2:24 p.m.

In reply to thatsnowinnebago :

Put the stickers on a sheet magnet, trim and cut out holes, and it can live on almost forever.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/2/20 2:28 p.m.

In reply to bobtms :

I wish I could say that slashing prices would solve things, but it's not a conversation about price. Budgets aren't being lowered, delayed, or anything else: They're being removed. Simply put, companies don't want orders while their employees are at home. 

stvdilln
stvdilln New Reader
4/2/20 2:30 p.m.

Hopefully you know about and are pursuing the SBA low interest loans that can largely be forgiven if spent correctly.

 

 https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/348552

WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane SuperDork
4/2/20 2:32 p.m.

I leave you guys for 12 hours and this thread is now up to 10 pages?   And I'm back of the pack for Patreon, #95 already!

Floating Doc
Floating Doc UltraDork
4/2/20 2:33 p.m.

In reply to Tom Suddard :

I understand how that works.  People with zero money don't take advantage of discounts.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/2/20 2:36 p.m.

In reply to Floating Doc :

Yep. Back to the age-old adage that it's expensive to be poor. 

wawazat
wawazat HalfDork
4/2/20 2:40 p.m.

Sales team can't create need!

wawazat
wawazat HalfDork
4/2/20 2:42 p.m.

That said I'll be giving parts suppliers, Modern Driveline and Summit Racing, some money this weekend.   Need to order the hydraulics and clutch to keep the Cougar TKO install going.

tremm
tremm New Reader
4/2/20 2:43 p.m.

Please keep us updated, and don't lie to us. I value GRM & will set aside some cash for it in the future. Between the GRM staff & the tons of readers on the forums, I hope there will be some profitable ideas to pivot to for the next 2-12 months. Let us know how it's going & how much it's gonna take to keep it going.

Might also be a good time to remind people to please consider turning off ad blockers

secretariata (Forum Supporter)
secretariata (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/2/20 2:46 p.m.
secretariata (Forum Supporter) said:
Tom Suddard said:

Thanks again for all the support, everybody! I'm working through the list and applying your new titles now.

Tom,

I donated via papal on 4/1 before the "Forum Supporter" thing happened. Didn't think to put my user name in as a note. Any chance when things slow down I can get that designation? I have one of them there yahoo emails so I can't send/receive PM's or I would have asked that way. My paypal should have **EditedOut** in it...Thx.

Tom,

I see you got me taken care of.  Thanks for that and to everyone working at GRM for doing such a great job!

Steve

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
4/2/20 3:56 p.m.

My Moss reseller of choice had a really good order from me a few weeks back. As well as 3 other British parts suppliers in the states.

 

 

Greg Smith
Greg Smith Dork
4/2/20 3:58 p.m.

Stickers, shirts, and a hat ordered. 

And I did the Patreon thing a couple hours ago. Soon I too will have a cool title. 

Many thanks!!

 

vwcorvette (Forum Supporter)
vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/2/20 4:18 p.m.

Patreon done.

Hasbro (Forum Supporter)
Hasbro (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/2/20 5:11 p.m.

Some thoughts;

- Tom, Patreon monthly is great but what's the best way (right now) to make a one lump donation? PayPal? Made out to (not JG)? Address? Etc.

- Make a donation in someone else's name that deserves credit but can't swing it right now. There are a ton of them on here that deserve a pat on the back for past services rendered.

- GRM Dork Tees for something like $50.00. There might be quite a few takers.

- GRM, any Project Cars that maybe could go up for sale?

- Wish you had mugs, I'd buy four.

- I have a really nice Miata tub from SVReX and will donate the sale to AutoX. cheeky Near Athens Ga. No title, almost flawless.

- I have over 400 lbs. of 986 Boxster parts from pulling weight, make me an offer for just about anything I could and will pull off. Glass, top and ancilleries, bumpers, body parts, seats, trunk, hood, yada, yada. Everything works great. You can send the money directly to GRM (get contributor status - ooooooh!).

- $15.00 hr. for manual labor (30633, near Athens Ga.). Will donate whatever proportion you want (running out of ideas).

- Anybody with an idea just add to this list.

paranoid_android
paranoid_android UberDork
4/2/20 5:18 p.m.

GRM store order placed and I patreon'd.  At least I think I patreon'd- I'm new to that whole thing.

 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/2/20 5:52 p.m.

In reply to Hasbro (Forum Supporter) :

Awww, that's too kind. We'll look into the rest, but for now you can PayPal Nancy@grassrootsmotorsports.com

Please don't PayPal my email, as that's my personal account and will be spent on Trooper parts used machining tools. (Just kidding, I've been transferring them to the company account). 
 

 

dherr (Forum Supporter)
dherr (Forum Supporter) Dork
4/2/20 6:00 p.m.

Renewed my subscriptions for both GRM and Classic Motorsports today!

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
4/2/20 6:24 p.m.

Funny timing- just had to renew our subscription that was 10 years long.  So just sent some money.

Still dream of the challenge, even if the odds of doing it again are fairly thin.

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/2/20 6:45 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

In reply to bobtms :

I wish I could say that slashing prices would solve things, but it's not a conversation about price. Budgets aren't being lowered, delayed, or anything else: They're being removed. Simply put, companies don't want orders while their employees are at home. 

Well, I'm not saying you'll get a lot of play from this, but maybe offer some space to people here for ads?

It may just be a bitchin Interstellar Sledgehammer ad, or my wife's House of Sparrow stuff but it's another way we can get you guys some money

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
4/2/20 7:03 p.m.
Jerry From LA said:

Do you guys feel like George Bailey yet?

Completely. <3

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/2/20 7:18 p.m.
Antihero (Forum Supporter) said:

It may just be a bitchin Interstellar Sledgehammer ad, or my wife's House of Sparrow stuff but it's another way we can get you guys some money

Should have sent this via PM, then given us the gift of an Easter Egg in the form of an Interstellar Sledgehammer 2020 Fall Tour magazine ad!

Mike
Mike SuperDork
4/2/20 7:20 p.m.

I'm in on the Patreon, reupped, and I'm chuffed to be trying a year of Classic Motorsports because it was cheap enough to not really give me a choice.

NermalSnert
NermalSnert Reader
4/2/20 7:21 p.m.

https://www.patreon.com/grassroots_motorsports/

 

Now with clickable. cheeky I'm in. Keep on truckin' GRM!

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/2/20 7:24 p.m.
Pete. (Athletic Supporter) said:
Patrick (Angry is a Wanker) said:
AngryCorvair (Moar Legendarier than Patrick Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Patrick ($2000 Challenge Legend) :

oh yeah?  well check out *my* title!

What?  I can't hear you over the sound of the crickets in your garage 

Would you say they are noisy crickets?

Helen (age 14) chased some crickets out of the garage for me today.

paranoid_android
paranoid_android UberDork
4/2/20 7:48 p.m.

While perusing the GRM store earlier, I found myself wishing there were a pair of welding Crocs available.

cheeky

Hasbro (Forum Supporter)
Hasbro (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/2/20 8:26 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

In reply to Hasbro (Forum Supporter) :

Awww, that's too kind. We'll look into the rest, but for now you can PayPal Nancy@grassrootsmotorsports.com

Please don't PayPal my email, as that's my personal account and will be spent on Trooper parts used machining tools. (Just kidding, I've been transferring them to the company account). 
 

 

I had a late 80s 4 cyl. Trooper. An absolute turtle but a blast otherwise.

bgkast
bgkast PowerDork
4/2/20 8:26 p.m.

In reply to Antihero (Forum Supporter) :

I might buy an ad so that my car can finally make it into the magazinen cheeky

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
4/2/20 8:28 p.m.
paranoid_android said:

While perusing the GRM store earlier, I found myself wishing there were a pair of welding Crocs available.

cheeky

All Crocs are welding Crocs in quarantine world

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/2/20 8:30 p.m.
AngryCorvair said:

also, GRM socks with personalized toe tag info would be expensive to make but totally worth it IMO.

We're talking Tony Hawk-approved, three-stripe tube socks, right? 

minivan_racer
minivan_racer UberDork
4/2/20 8:34 p.m.

My wife works in a hospital and my job has cut my hours (I know I'm grateful I'm not laid off) so I'll re-up after things kinda shake out for us.  I don't want to spend anything I don't absolutely have to until I know we won't get an involuntary 2 weeks off.

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/2/20 8:36 p.m.
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:
Antihero (Forum Supporter) said:

It may just be a bitchin Interstellar Sledgehammer ad, or my wife's House of Sparrow stuff but it's another way we can get you guys some money

Should have sent this via PM, then given us the gift of an Easter Egg in the form of an Interstellar Sledgehammer 2020 Fall Tour magazine ad!

Dammit! That would have been cool

 

Although the venues listed would end up being the individual rooms of my house and the tree 6 feet from my door since all the venues are closed lol

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/2/20 8:37 p.m.
bgkast said:

In reply to Antihero (Forum Supporter) :

I might buy an ad so that my car can finally make it into the magazinen cheeky

I was pretty happy the Rampage showed up in the magazine a month after I bought it actually

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
4/2/20 8:37 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:
AngryCorvair said:

also, GRM socks with personalized toe tag info would be expensive to make but totally worth it IMO.

We're talking Tony Hawk-approved, three-stripe tube socks, right? 

You mean there's other kinds? 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/2/20 8:42 p.m.

In reply to Mndsm :

Well, okay, true. But I'm talking all the way hiked up. Like, to your armpits. 

Furious_E
Furious_E UltraDork
4/2/20 9:08 p.m.

Late to the party as usual, but there's some sweet sweet tshirt and Patreon money coming your way, GRM. Happy to help out.

Jaded
Jaded New Reader
4/2/20 9:24 p.m.

New subscriber, but longtime reader and forum lurker.  This article and all the posts from everyone just flat out pushed my buttons and made me realize that I HAD to support this place.  What kind of magazine/online forum gets this kind of loyalty these days? (Outside of the political arena) There's nothing else like this. Love it.  

drock25too
drock25too New Reader
4/2/20 9:30 p.m.

Just re-upped the GRM sub. last week. Been wanting to check out Classic, so what the heck, bought a sub. Have been reading GRM since the 80's when I had my Triumph Spitfire. Wanted to do all the Ro-Spit mods except use a 231 v6 Buick, until someone stole while I was moving. Still miss that car.

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) UltimaDork
4/2/20 9:38 p.m.
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) said:
Antihero (Forum Supporter) said:

It may just be a bitchin Interstellar Sledgehammer ad, or my wife's House of Sparrow stuff but it's another way we can get you guys some money

Should have sent this via PM, then given us the gift of an Easter Egg in the form of an Interstellar Sledgehammer 2020 Fall Tour magazine ad!

Funny I was just thinking today of doing an "AC pegs it again" ad.

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/2/20 9:48 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:
AngryCorvair said:

also, GRM socks with personalized toe tag info would be expensive to make but totally worth it IMO.

We're talking Tony Hawk-approved, three-stripe tube socks, right? 

I was thinking nomex, although I'm more likely to die in a failed McTwist than I am in a racing incident.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/2/20 11:07 p.m.

McBail. While my arm was healing, I asked my orthopedist if I could go skating. Then he starts with this, "I often see men of your age who think they can still skate..."

Bastard. (Totally not wrong, either.)

And thanks again, everyone, for the support. It means so much. 

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado UltimaDork
4/3/20 1:37 a.m.

Okay, figured out how to get Patron to charge my card instead of demanding PayPal or something.

Sent the first $20, but their replies make it look like my monthly contribution will be only three bucks.

That is *not* what I had intended to do. I coughed up on the 'reader' side, don't care about added flair on my nym.

 

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/3/20 1:42 a.m.
friedgreencorrado said:

Okay, figured out how to get Patron to charge my card instead of demanding PayPal or something.

Sent the first $20, but their replies make it look like my monthly contribution will be only three bucks.

That is *not* what I had intended to do. I coughed up on the 'reader' side, don't care about added flair on my nym.

 

I gave up and just figured $3 is all that was gonna happen and I'll just buy some other stuff.

 

I suck at technology, I killed the Sydney metro system a couple times when I was there

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado UltimaDork
4/3/20 1:52 a.m.
David S. Wallens said:

McBail. While my arm was healing, I asked my orthopedist if I could go skating. Then he starts with this, "I often see men of your age who think they can still skate..."

Bastard. (Totally not wrong, either.)

And thanks again, everyone, for the support. It means so much. 

My daughter once asked me if I could teach her to surf (I grew up on the NC mainland, across the Pamlico Sound from the Outer Banks. Guess where we went when we ditched a day in high school). My mom retired to Ft. Walton Beach, FL, we went there quite often when she was a kid.

"Hon, you remember all those jokes about dads getting on skateboards or BMX bikes and breaking a leg or something?"

Daughter: "Oh yeah! (her friend's name redacted) dad actually *did* that!

Me: "In the ocean..Dad drowns, instead of breaking something. Let's go to the surf shop, I'm sure there'll be someone there who would *seriously* be interested in giving you lessons!"

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado UltimaDork
4/3/20 2:04 a.m.

In reply to Antihero (Forum Supporter) :

I'll probably figure it out eventually. Truth be told, I've been declared "essential" during all this crap. My career's in TV, I've always kind of enjoyed trying to keep up with tech since my industry has been riding the forefront of it. That being said:
 
I'm not happy right now. Might contribute to the "That Didn't Take Long" thread soon, since that's what I do at home after being out in public all stinking day. :D 



 

Greg Smith
Greg Smith Dork
4/3/20 8:42 a.m.

Looks like my renewal just came in the mail too. Time to do that! (normally I've done renewal at the Challenge)

*Note ^ I should have Forum supporter from doing Patreon yesterday? Greg at Gregory W Smith dot com

 

Flynlow
Flynlow HalfDork
4/3/20 9:08 a.m.
Antihero (Forum Supporter) said:
Tom Suddard said:

In reply to bobtms :

I wish I could say that slashing prices would solve things, but it's not a conversation about price. Budgets aren't being lowered, delayed, or anything else: They're being removed. Simply put, companies don't want orders while their employees are at home. 

Well, I'm not saying you'll get a lot of play from this, but maybe offer some space to people here for ads?

It may just be a bitchin Interstellar Sledgehammer ad, or my wife's House of Sparrow stuff but it's another way we can get you guys some money

Not sure what a full page ad costs, but that could be an interesting 1-off if none of your regular advertisers minded.  Do a month (maybe two) with forum-sponsored ads for imaginary products/pictures of peoples cars.

In the mean time, off to the store to spend money on shirts and subscriptions...

 

EDIT:  Lots of things bought.  Building on Hasbro's thoughts on mugs....maybe pint glasses with GRM logo and/or Dork status on them?  When I've ordered large batches for work, they've been pretty cheap to get made.  I'd be in for a 4 or 8-pack, and I think we probably have lots of beer drinkers here.

eastsideTim
eastsideTim UberDork
4/3/20 9:39 a.m.

My GRM subscription is current, but I just added a 2-year CM subscription.  Would signing up for the $2000 Challenge for this year also help?  I don't have a car secured yet, but plan on showing up with something.

 

 

noddaz
noddaz UltraDork
4/3/20 10:36 a.m.

You can never be too prepared, right? Can I get in on the toe tags? I may need one one of those. 

 

Great.  Now I want a Toe Tag key chain for my car.   

On another note, is there a way to contribute directly from my bank account and avoid PayPay/Paetron/Creditcard fees so GRM gets all 100% of my meager contribution?

NPR does that, but NPR is a non-profit .  Well, almost everything is a non-profit right now, but I digress.  

Scott

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) PowerDork
4/3/20 10:46 a.m.
David S. Wallens said:

McBail. While my arm was healing, I asked my orthopedist if I could go skating. Then he starts with this, "I often see men of your age who think they can still skate..."

Bastard. (Totally not wrong, either.)

And thanks again, everyone, for the support. It means so much. 

I'm still playing hockey and I'll be 68 in four weeks. There are at least four guys on the team who are older than me, by as much as 12 years, so tell your orthopedist to shove it. smiley

Flynlow
Flynlow HalfDork
4/3/20 11:38 a.m.
noddaz said:

You can never be too prepared, right? Can I get in on the toe tags? I may need one one of those. 

 

Great.  Now I want a Toe Tag key chain for my car.   

On another note, is there a way to contribute directly from my bank account and avoid PayPay/Paetron/Creditcard fees so GRM gets all 100% of my meager contribution?

NPR does that, but NPR is a non-profit .  Well, almost everything is a non-profit right now, but I digress.  

Scott

If you have a PayPal account, and send money from a bank account (rather than credit card) and to a friend, rather than a merchant, there are no fees.  Tom posted GRM paypal info on page 10.  Hope that helps.

dlmater
dlmater Reader
4/3/20 12:03 p.m.

Just placed an order for a couple clothing items.  Thanks GRM!

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
4/3/20 12:24 p.m.

Tom,

What has changed?  Did I not see a post from Tim about a week back basically saying that GRM was fine and not to worry?  I was hoping that this was going to be about GRM doing something to help those less fortunate and instead it is a cry for help that GRM is going away if we don't by your stuff and up our scrips. 

Edit: Thread here 

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
4/3/20 12:34 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

McBail. While my arm was healing, I asked my orthopedist if I could go skating. Then he starts with this, "I often see men of your age who think they can still skate..."

Bastard. (Totally not wrong, either.)

And thanks again, everyone, for the support. It means so much. 

That's why I bought that fancy skateboard display hanger we all had a discussion about some ages ago.  So I can look at my skateboard looking pretty, but not actually attempt to get on it.  I can do a fine enough job hurting myself hurtling down jump trails at ski resorts... 

Greg Smith (Forum Supporter)
Greg Smith (Forum Supporter) Dork
4/3/20 12:56 p.m.

Yay, I'm fixed :)

noddaz
noddaz UltraDork
4/3/20 1:02 p.m.
Greg Smith (Forum Supporter) said:

Yay, I'm fixed :)

Thanks.  I *almost* spit hot tea all over my keyboard and monitor.

misshift
misshift
4/3/20 1:20 p.m.

Just sent 50 bucks cash via paypal to  Nancy link. A request would be to give Jaun, the friendly postman,  a GRM shirt. Since I enjoy the printed version it's the least I can do to support the people who delivery my GRM mag. Use the rest as needed.

Thanks, site lurker, Lee

Tim Suddard
Tim Suddard Publisher
4/3/20 1:37 p.m.

In reply to dean1484 :

A lot has happened since I wrote that on March 23. On April 1 the country went on a national stay at home order for the month of April. That canceled or postponed events through all of April and beyond. We had to cancel one of our own events and postpone another.

We have reserves, but like any other business, we cannot weather this dragging out for six months or a year without making some drastic changes, or getting some help. Thankfully our community has stepped up. And while the financial help is important, at least for me, the emotional outcry hit hardest, as it reminded me that while we might not be curing anything, we provide an escape for a lot of people.

logdog
logdog UltraDork
4/3/20 1:59 p.m.

Im the 139th one in!

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/3/20 2:01 p.m.
Tim Suddard said:

we provide an escape for a lot of people.

+eleventyleven

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
4/3/20 2:09 p.m.

Just bought a T-shirt and some stickers.

AAZCD
AAZCD HalfDork
4/3/20 2:44 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

In reply to Hasbro (Forum Supporter) :

Awww, that's too kind. We'll look into the rest, but for now you can PayPal Nancy@grassrootsmotorsports.com

Is the https://www.paypal.me/motorsportmarketing  as good as the 'Nancy link'? I noticed the original post was updated to the Patreon link. I think there's plenty of us that prefer a simple donation to the Patreon thing.

Just extended my GRM sub and I'm looking forward checking out the Classic Motorsports magazine when it starts arriving.

Floating Doc
Floating Doc UltraDork
4/3/20 3:02 p.m.

In reply to Tim Suddard :

Checking the forum has become the first thing I do in the morning, and the last thing I do at night. 

That's probably normal for a lot of people, but I'm not big on social media; I only opened a Facebook account to keep up with the local autocross scene and access to marketplace. 

A big difference between the two is that this is primarily a group of people who respect and care about each other. Facebook is often a lot of negative drama, think Lord of the Flies. I don't want that in my life.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/3/20 3:04 p.m.

In reply to AAZCD :

Yes, just two doors into the same account. 

 

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
4/3/20 3:09 p.m.

Did you get my paypal Tom?

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/3/20 3:23 p.m.

I'm not sure, unfortunately. PayPal doesn't have a great way to filter out what money was sent for, and many of our store orders are processed through it. 

I do know you all have been very, very supportive. Thank you. 

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones Reader
4/3/20 4:33 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

I'm not sure, unfortunately. PayPal doesn't have a great way to filter out what money was sent for, and many of our store orders are processed through it. 

I do know you all have been very, very supportive. Thank you. 

I assume they show you the email and/or comments if people leave them

 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
4/3/20 5:01 p.m.

I'll do some more digging then. 

Dr. Hess (Forum Supporter)
Dr. Hess (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/3/20 6:20 p.m.

In the comments, I said "Dr.Hess (DrHess)".  It is separate from the PayPal I sent a couple days ago for a shirt and stuff.

 

 

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
4/3/20 6:25 p.m.

In reply to Flynlow :

Pint glasses that say "Well that didn't take long" 

captainawesome
captainawesome HalfDork
4/3/20 8:23 p.m.

Yes to pint glasses. I can imagine shipping glass can be a pain though.

 

chada75
chada75 Reader
4/3/20 10:47 p.m.

Just ordered a Two Year Subscription. 

mjrj
mjrj New Reader
4/3/20 11:26 p.m.

just resubcribed.  Thank you guys.   heart

AAZCD
AAZCD HalfDork
4/3/20 11:31 p.m.
captainawesome said:

Yes to pint glasses. I can imagine shipping glass can be a pain though.

One individual can order/buy an order of glasses with donated money, then sell them as a fundraiser. Shipping would be some work, but it could double the initial donation with the proceeds. Coffee mug, Pint glass - either would be cool. Permission to use the logo for a limited run or use an 'off-logo' design. I'll have extra money again next Friday and I'd buy a pair or donate as long as there's not a Miata on it.  wink

Unofficial, I'm thinking: 'New Year Game' meets Seth T-Shirts, fundraiser type thing done by fans, not official GRM.

Example... https://www.discountmugs.com/

oldopelguy (Forum Supporter)
oldopelguy (Forum Supporter) UberDork
4/3/20 11:46 p.m.

I'd by a set of filter word glasses. 

I'll be drinking out of the e36 m3 glass though, you get stuck with the berkeley one.

 

Brett_Murphy (Forum Supporter)
Brett_Murphy (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/4/20 1:52 a.m.

100% in for pint glasses. I drink everything out of them.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
4/4/20 8:27 a.m.

You know what I have been looking for, for a while, that I would totally buy?

 

Remember in the 90s (at least), it was common to have college/university stickers in your car's back window?

 

I have been looking for a UC Berkeley one forever.  There may be rights issues with that, though.

 

(I had "Cardassian Military Scool" in my Subaru.  A decade later, I bought my Golf from someone who had "Starfleet Academy" on it)

eastsideTim
eastsideTim UberDork
4/4/20 9:10 a.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

You know what I have been looking for, for a while, that I would totally buy?

 

Remember in the 90s (at least), it was common to have college/university stickers in your car's back window?

 

I have been looking for a UC Berkeley one forever.  There may be rights issues with that, though.

 

(I had "Cardassian Military Scool" in my Subaru.  A decade later, I bought my Golf from someone who had "Starfleet Academy" on it)

I could go for a "Berkeley this E36 M3" window sticker.

AAZCD
AAZCD HalfDork
4/4/20 10:13 a.m.

"Berkeley this E36 M3" ...What's the graphic going to be on that T-Shirt and how much $ for two stickers and a short-sleeve?

Which reputable, currently unemployed, SuperUltraUberDork wants to gather donations, and organize the mailing?

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/4/20 10:17 a.m.
eastsideTim said:
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

You know what I have been looking for, for a while, that I would totally buy?

 

Remember in the 90s (at least), it was common to have college/university stickers in your car's back window?

 

I have been looking for a UC Berkeley one forever.  There may be rights issues with that, though.

 

(I had "Cardassian Military Scool" in my Subaru.  A decade later, I bought my Golf from someone who had "Starfleet Academy" on it)

I could go for a "Berkeley this E36 M3" window sticker.

This must happen!

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/4/20 10:41 a.m.

I started to initiate a new topic with some thoughts that I had this morning. I changed my mind and decided to post it here since the Suddards and GRM leadership have been active in this discussion. 

It's great that we've had the opportunity to bump the cash flow for GRM.

We have to be realistic, though. I'm sure it's a minor bump, and there's got to be a big difference between income and expenses once a lot of the magazine and website advertisers drop out.

I'm wondering if this site generates enough traffic to be able to sell more general type advertising.

I'm thinking of ads for consumer products that aren't directly related to our hobby. Perhaps snack foods, beverages, etc. Political ads would probably be a minefield, though.

As awful as the click bait ads are (you won't believe what she did next when she ate the five foods you should eat every morning that you should never feed your dog), even CNN has them on their web pages. These things generate revenue, and revenue is what this company needs right now.

One of my biggest concerns about this would be the potential for negative reactions from the forum membership.

While I would prefer not to see the forum diluted with clickbait ads, or more advertising in general, we are talking about GRM's survival here. 

The forum membership, and subscribers to the magazines need to be prepared for changes that we may not like, and to remind ourselves that hard times require hard choices. 

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
4/4/20 2:05 p.m.

In reply to AAZCD :

Double bonus if the "well that didn't take long" is on the bottom of the pint glass, with GRM logo on the side. 

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
4/4/20 2:07 p.m.

In reply to eastsideTim :

I see that idea and raise it with a 

"Berkeleying Dork" window sticker idea

TIGMOTORSPORTS
TIGMOTORSPORTS Dork
4/4/20 3:03 p.m.

I recommend a GRM bucket hat folks.  I use mine alot at the race tracks and outside yard work.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
4/4/20 3:43 p.m.
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) said:

you won't believe what she did next when she ate the five foods you should eat every morning that you should never feed your dog

Well?  What happened?  Tell me about the berking golf shoes! 

The0retical (Forum Supporter)
The0retical (Forum Supporter) UberDork
4/4/20 6:02 p.m.
eastsideTim said:
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

You know what I have been looking for, for a while, that I would totally buy?

 

Remember in the 90s (at least), it was common to have college/university stickers in your car's back window?

 

I have been looking for a UC Berkeley one forever.  There may be rights issues with that, though.

 

(I had "Cardassian Military Scool" in my Subaru.  A decade later, I bought my Golf from someone who had "Starfleet Academy" on it)

I could go for a "Berkeley this E36 M3" window sticker.

Someone make this happen.

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/4/20 6:41 p.m.
The0retical (Forum Supporter) said:
eastsideTim said:
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

You know what I have been looking for, for a while, that I would totally buy?

 

Remember in the 90s (at least), it was common to have college/university stickers in your car's back window?

 

I have been looking for a UC Berkeley one forever.  There may be rights issues with that, though.

 

(I had "Cardassian Military Scool" in my Subaru.  A decade later, I bought my Golf from someone who had "Starfleet Academy" on it)

I could go for a "Berkeley this E36 M3" window sticker.

Someone make this happen.

I'm thinking windshield banner with a GRM logo at the end.

AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/4/20 7:43 p.m.

Ordered some hats today

wake74
wake74 New Reader
4/4/20 8:06 p.m.

Heck, if my wife can prepay for future haircuts to help her stylist, the least I can do is re-up early, and buy some swag.   How can haircuts cost that much, I have no idea.  I can tell by the credit card notification when she's just gone in for maintenance, and when she's in for the full overhaul :-)

And I noticed I just passed 10 years as a subscriber, man I'm getting old.  Mostly just a lurker on the forum, but love the magazines.  Keep up the great work!

Tom1200
Tom1200 Dork
4/4/20 9:42 p.m.

OK finally got online and subscribed to both publications. (I did uncheck the auto renewal though.......professional habit as a contracts guy).

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
4/5/20 12:32 a.m.
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) said:

I started to initiate a new topic with some thoughts that I had this morning. I changed my mind and decided to post it here since the Suddards and GRM leadership have been active in this discussion. 

It's great that we've had the opportunity to bump the cash flow for GRM.

We have to be realistic, though. I'm sure it's a minor bump, and there's got to be a big difference between income and expenses once a lot of the magazine and website advertisers drop out.

I'm wondering if this site generates enough traffic to be able to sell more general type advertising.

I'm thinking of ads for consumer products that aren't directly related to our hobby. Perhaps snack foods, beverages, etc. Political ads would probably be a minefield, though.

As awful as the click bait ads are (you won't believe what she did next when she ate the five foods you should eat every morning that you should never feed your dog), even CNN has them on their web pages. These things generate revenue, and revenue is what this company needs right now.

One of my biggest concerns about this would be the potential for negative reactions from the forum membership.

While I would prefer not to see the forum diluted with clickbait ads, or more advertising in general, we are talking about GRM's survival here. 

The forum membership, and subscribers to the magazines need to be prepared for changes that we may not like, and to remind ourselves that hard times require hard choices. 

The money you guys are sending in is not the difference between living and dieing for us... at the moment. Every day is a new day, though. In two more issues we may be faced with far more harsher realities than we currently are.

Your $$$upport does a few things, though, in addition to taking the edge off the general bilpaying, which we could definitely use right now. First, it dopes something we've had plans for for years but never the impetus to make it exist. That being the "GRM Fanclub" or some such name. Basically a gate-kept area for supporters to have easier access to legacy content, club only content, first crack at event tickets, exclusive behind the scenes content, easy staff access, and more. Now we're been kind of forded into making it a reality, so don't be surprised if everyone who agreed to be a forum supporter get drafter into a focus group at some point.

The other thing it does is it shows our advertisers what a dedicated, engaged fan base we have. Advertisers don't like casual eyeballs. They'd rather spend more money on fewer, higher quality impressions. And we respect the hell out of that by trying to gatekeep stupid crap off the ad roles. So no whistling mufflers or underhood neon. Just the cool stuff. 

So, yeah, if you signed up to be a forum suporter, be patient. There's certainly more coming for you than just that forum title and smug satisfaction.

And this is also a great time to post on your favorite advertisers social media and thank them for keeping us in the ad mix. That means a TONNN to both them and us. You have no idea. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
4/5/20 7:38 a.m.

Trufax:  I am granting GRM $25 a month.

 

More trufax:  This is way less than 1% what I take home every month after Caesar's due.

 

I feel a little bad because GRM's very existence is more than 1% of what gets me through the day.

MazdaFace
MazdaFace Dork
4/5/20 10:25 a.m.

Pint glasses would be neat. More shirt options would be amazing. Wish I could put more towards the forum but with a tater tot on the way my options are limited. $4.69/month it is. No clue if the email I used is the one I use here though

Hasbro (Forum Supporter)
Hasbro (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/5/20 10:51 a.m.

I'm really slammed with work lately (not complaining) so not sure if this has been brought up. What about a group of us chipping in and placing an ad in the mag to show advertisers our support? The size of the ad would be determined by the donation amount.

russde (Forum Supporter)
russde (Forum Supporter) Reader
4/5/20 4:35 p.m.
JG Pasterjak : smug satisfaction.
 

How did JG know I'm feeling smug?

Uncle David
Uncle David None
4/5/20 4:54 p.m.

Um, Hi.  I'm new.  Well actually, I'm (a lot) closer to old, but I'm new here.  I've been lurking for a looong time. I've been enjoying the generally mature, low drama, adult behavior (for a public internet forum, and yes, I'm serious), broad acceptance of all things automotive, and in depth knowledge of obscure automotive and other topics.  Felt guilty, sent money, and created an account, in that order.  I might even do a real post sometime.  

iwannarace
iwannarace New Reader
4/5/20 5:18 p.m.

Just bought a fancy hoodie. I look forward to rocking my first grm gear! Be well guys!

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
4/5/20 5:27 p.m.

In reply to Uncle David :

Welcome to the posting side of GRM. We're all glad to have you. 

For you and everyone like you...we're all looking for entertainment lately. Feel free to throw up a topic. Sometimes even what seem like trivial pursuits end up being rather interesting dialog. 

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
4/5/20 5:45 p.m.

In reply to Uncle David :

Welcome to the asylum! Were glad to have you.

I know one of the youngest members is 11, one of the oldest is 75. So, you're going to fit right in!

Feel free to dive in on any topic you find interesting. Turner x19 is always posting AWESOME vintage pictures from race tracks. Then theres the builds section. You can lose an entire quarantine in there!

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) Dork
4/5/20 7:04 p.m.

I joined in too.  The wife is now unemployed, so we'll see how this all plays out long term.  It's pretty messed up how badly this affecting regular people and the economy.

volvoclearinghouse (Forum Supporter)
volvoclearinghouse (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
4/6/20 5:20 a.m.

Last night, after a weekend full of working around the house, and chasing our two insane children around, Mrs. VCH and I collapsed on the couch with our magazine; she with her Mother Earth News and I with my Classic Motorsports.  The dog was between us, and a small bowl of ice cream and a glass of red wine.  I can't tell you how nice it was to just sit and read the magazine. 

We went up to bed a few minutes before 10.  It's like we're an old married couple or something.  

driver95 (Forum Supporter)
driver95 (Forum Supporter) New Reader
4/6/20 10:37 a.m.

Just got my GRM shirt, perfect work from home uniform!

Cedricn
Cedricn New Reader
4/6/20 11:03 a.m.

Wow, ive never seen such support for a car mag, impressive fan base i must say! 

vwcorvette (Forum Supporter)
vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/6/20 12:26 p.m.
Cedricn said:

Wow, ive never seen such support for a car mag, impressive fan base i must say! 

Oh, but GRM is more than just a car mag. It's a way of life!

bigben
bigben Reader
4/6/20 2:03 p.m.

I just voted for GRM with my wallet too.

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
4/6/20 3:14 p.m.
vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) said:
Cedricn said:

Wow, ive never seen such support for a car mag, impressive fan base i must say! 

Oh, but GRM is more than just a car mag. It's a way of life!

It's also a family business, and many of us have met the family personally. Even those who haven't interact with them on the board. Let me put it this way, I've had a C&D subscription since 1986. But if C&D asks me to help them out right now, I'm not likely to do it. When GRM asked, I did it without hesitation. 

GRM is more than a magazine. It's the staff, the website, the forum, the events, and it's all of us, too.

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/6/20 3:39 p.m.
Cedricn said:

Wow, ive never seen such support for a car mag, impressive fan base i must say! 

I did a fly and drive last year and ran into mechanical problems. I had multiple offers to come and help me that were multiple hours away......like.....8 hours away

 

This isn't really a fan base, it's a community. Or an asylum lol

wae (Forum Supporter)
wae (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/6/20 3:43 p.m.
Antihero (Forum Supporter) said:
Cedricn said:

Wow, ive never seen such support for a car mag, impressive fan base i must say! 

I did a fly and drive last year and ran into mechanical problems. I had multiple offers to come and help me that were multiple hours away......like.....8 hours away

 

This isn't really a fan base, it's a community. Or an asylum lol

A long time ago at a Challenge far far away, JG was talking about one of the teams at the awards banquet - I think it was Hong Norr - and he referred to them as being more like a gang than a club.  I think that applies here.

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle SuperDork
4/6/20 4:59 p.m.

Pandemic helping hand extended via subscription and a new hat. I'm trying to go very easy on expenditures right now due to a nervous job situation but I spend a lot of time here and I want to help. 

amg_rx7
amg_rx7 SuperDork
4/6/20 5:23 p.m.

Where is the link to subscribe to the online edition?

have you guys thought about a monthly subscription option like other news?  I d pay a few bucks a month rather than regularly forget to renew. Yes, I know the math might have me paying more. Which would probably be good for you as a business. 

Nitroracer
Nitroracer UltraDork
4/6/20 7:53 p.m.

Just placed my order for a few things from the merchandise store and sent a few dollars through PayPal.  I may not be one of the most vocal members here, but this is one of the most valuable places I go on the internet and I would hate to see it go.  I've been around for over 10 years, I can't remember when I first found out about GRM or how I found it but the people here are the best and I feel like I fit right in.  You can learn about literally anything that you are willing to take a few minutes and write a logical paragraph about because the membership base covers such a vast range of knowledge coming from genuinely helpful people.  If the corona-craziness comes to an end in a reasonable number of weeks and months this might even be the first time I get my self together and have a car to compete at the Grassroots $20XX Challenge, and I even bought the car from another member on here.

#SupportMotorsport

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
4/6/20 10:48 p.m.
Nitroracer said:

  If the corona-craziness comes to an end in a reasonable number of weeks and months this might even be the first time I get my self together and have a car to compete at the Grassroots $20XX Challenge, and I even bought the car from another member on here.

#SupportMotorsport

I have a feeling that for anyone who doesn't get their car finished, or who just wants to come hang out, we can have a pre-event draft. All of the teamless bodies stand in a line, and all of the teams tke turns picking additional members, just like kickball in elementary school. 

Bottom line: Do not think that not having a car precludes you from making a heck of an impact at the event. It's worth the effort to make it, car or no car.

 

Cedricn
Cedricn New Reader
4/7/20 12:58 a.m.
vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) said:
Cedricn said:

Wow, ive never seen such support for a car mag, impressive fan base i must say! 

Oh, but GRM is more than just a car mag. It's a way of life!

My real name is George Rooney in case anyone cares.

 

You get that impression from time to time :) its kind of hard to meet the GRM people though when you are on the other side of the globe, i enjoy the mag and the forum anyway, ive always liked good quality paper mags! 

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/7/20 6:51 p.m.
wae (Forum Supporter) said:
Antihero (Forum Supporter) said:
Cedricn said:

Wow, ive never seen such support for a car mag, impressive fan base i must say! 

I did a fly and drive last year and ran into mechanical problems. I had multiple offers to come and help me that were multiple hours away......like.....8 hours away

 

This isn't really a fan base, it's a community. Or an asylum lol

A long time ago at a Challenge far far away, JG was talking about one of the teams at the awards banquet - I think it was Hong Norr - and he referred to them as being more like a gang than a club.  I think that applies here.

Gang is apt, and not one of those mamby pamby Hollywood gangs.

 

This is more a gang armed with sharks. Sharks with freakin LASERS!

Jim Pettengill
Jim Pettengill HalfDork
4/7/20 7:36 p.m.

Gotta chime in here.  I've been a member of the GRM family since 1985 on a number of levels - freelance writer, photographer, fan, and regular forum contributor.  This is an absolutely unique community, one I don't want to ever do without.  I'm extending my subscriptions to both mags and ordering some swag tomorrow.

GRM team, you are all the best, look for a personal letter from me soon.

Hasbro (Forum Supporter)
Hasbro (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
4/7/20 8:13 p.m.

Some of you might be interested in this. The bigger the ad, or several smaller ads, the more the advertisers will be encouraged to buy space.  https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/does-the-forum-really-want-to-place-an-ad/170881/page1/

Brett_Murphy (Forum Supporter)
Brett_Murphy (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/7/20 8:34 p.m.
Uncle David said:

  Felt guilty, sent money, and created an account, in that order.  I might even do a real post sometime.  

Welcome, we're glad to have you. 

Brett_Murphy (Forum Supporter)
Brett_Murphy (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/7/20 8:41 p.m.
Cedricn said:

You get that impression from time to time :) its kind of hard to meet the GRM people though when you are on the other side of the globe, i enjoy the mag and the forum anyway, ive always liked good quality paper mags! 


You might have that impression, but I'm sure somebody from this side of the globe will turn up in your neck of the woods sooner or later and wouldn't mind having a local guide for good food, if you're willing. 

Also, if you're able to, please post up some arbetstraktors. 

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) Dork
4/7/20 11:25 p.m.

Note to self:  Friday call GRM, resub, and get a T-shirt.  If I fail to do so, I owe the first person to claim it Saturday equal value in GRM swag.

 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
4/8/20 7:14 a.m.

In reply to Cedricn :

The longer you stick around, the more this becomes true.

Nicole Suddard
Nicole Suddard Marketing Coordinator
4/8/20 9:19 a.m.
Nicole Suddard said:

Hey folks!

For everyone who asked about the 10 year subscriptions, I'm working on getting that added as an option on the online form up so you won't have to call in to sign up. :)

Thanks so much for your support! I'm fairly new to this (relative to everyone else on the staff and everyone else with my last name), and reading through this thread I have been continuously amazed with how dedicated you all are to this community and to supporting what we do. Y'all are awesome. 

As a token of my gratitude, I will post the tried-and-true recipe I use for challah in the bread thread. 

Update: 10-year subscriptions are now available at the "Buy a Subscription" link in the site header. Or you can just click here. 

wawazat
wawazat HalfDork
4/8/20 10:13 a.m.

Thanks for that Nicole!

Powar (Forum Supporter)
Powar (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/8/20 10:21 a.m.
Nicole Suddard said:
Nicole Suddard said:

Hey folks!

For everyone who asked about the 10 year subscriptions, I'm working on getting that added as an option on the online form up so you won't have to call in to sign up. :)

Thanks so much for your support! I'm fairly new to this (relative to everyone else on the staff and everyone else with my last name), and reading through this thread I have been continuously amazed with how dedicated you all are to this community and to supporting what we do. Y'all are awesome. 

As a token of my gratitude, I will post the tried-and-true recipe I use for challah in the bread thread. 

Update: 10-year subscriptions are now available at the "Buy a Subscription" link in the site header. Or you can just click here. 

Excellent! This is my second 10 year sub to this magazine. That's crazy to think about.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
4/8/20 11:58 a.m.
Jim Pettengill said:

Gotta chime in here.  I've been a member of the GRM family since 1985 on a number of levels - freelance writer, photographer, fan, and regular forum contributor.  This is an absolutely unique community, one I don't want to ever do without.  I'm extending my subscriptions to both mags and ordering some swag tomorrow.

GRM team, you are all the best, look for a personal letter from me soon.

All this is 100% true and we value you and all your contributions over the years, but you left out the most important part: "AW11 MR2 owner."

 

klipless (Forum Supporter)
klipless (Forum Supporter) Reader
4/8/20 8:05 p.m.

Thanks for adding the 10 year option to the subscription page. I'm betting that you guys will come out the otherside a-okay.

I'm in for 10! 

JohnHaag1
JohnHaag1 New Reader
4/8/20 9:50 p.m.

Perhaps someone already broached this idea. I'm just spitballing here and I haven't thought through everything. What if we offered some things, such as tools or parts or services, to others in the GRM community to raise some funds? For example, I'm getting older and doubt if I will ever get around to learning to MIG weld. I bought a new Millermatic Challenger 172 welder some years back but I doubt I have used it for more than two hours. If someone in the community wanted it, ALL money would go to GRM. I am guessing many of us have a surplus of tools, parts or talents that others could use.

Possible issues to consider in these tough times: money might be tight; shipping costs/hassle; concern about catching the virus; trust of getting the money to GRM, etc. Obviously local pick-up instead of shipping would be a lot easier. One obvious concern, though, is how many people in the Denver, CO area might be part of the GRM community and might want a MIG welder? Thoughts?

John

 

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
4/8/20 10:53 p.m.

In reply to JohnHaag1 :

I don't know how viable it is, but I really like this idea. Goods or services sold to fund GRM makes sense.

A biology society that I belong to has an auction at its annual meetings where donated items are auctioned off, and the money goes to a scholarship fund to help students attend future conferences. That's what your idea reminds me of.

stroker
stroker UltraDork
4/9/20 6:12 a.m.
JoeyM said:

In reply to JohnHaag1 :

I don't know how viable it is, but I really like this idea. Goods or services sold to fund GRM makes sense.

A biology society that I belong to has an auction at its annual meetings where donated items are auctioned off, and the money goes to a scholarship fund to help students attend future conferences. That's what your idea reminds me of.

Reminds me of the annual communal  "garage sale" at my church.  The funds go to Habitat for Humanity.  I considered posting the idea days ago but didn't think it was feasible. 

glueguy (Forum Supporter)
glueguy (Forum Supporter) Dork
4/9/20 6:32 a.m.

Perhaps a subgroup of parts for sale?  Specific items with proceeds to GRM?  

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) Dork
4/9/20 11:24 a.m.
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:

Note to self:  Friday call GRM, resub, and get a T-shirt.  If I fail to do so, I owe the first person to claim it Saturday equal value in GRM swag.

 

Done for 2 yrs and added a Classic Car sub too.  Might as well check it out.  Then I went and bought some more merch.  We need to keep the best automag left in business.  It's kind of sad what has happened in the past few years with everything migrating to 140 characters and youtube influencers.  A lot of good car guys on youtube, but there are a lot of really popular ones that can't begin to compete with the knowledge base and skills on this forum or represented in these pages. 

 

 

mtn
mtn MegaDork
4/10/20 9:49 a.m.

Just signed up for a 10 year subscription, and a year of Classic. Also did the $3 Patreon thing, hopefully that will only be a month long subscription but we'll see.

bmw88rider (Forum Supporter)
bmw88rider (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/10/20 10:46 a.m.

Got the new sweatshirt and t-shirt the other day. Really liked the sweatshirt. Great fit. I will probably get another. 

dyintorace (Forum Supporter)
dyintorace (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
4/10/20 12:32 p.m.
glueguy (Forum Supporter) said:

Perhaps a subgroup of parts for sale?  Specific items with proceeds to GRM?  

What if we just post things for sale in the for sale section, noting that proceeds will be given to GRM?

crankwalk
crankwalk SuperDork
4/10/20 10:13 p.m.

Just renewed my sub to Grm and CM.  Thanks for all you guys do. I remember picking up a copy of GRM on a whim  and reading about Downing Atlanta supercharged E30s on the porch 20 something years ago and just thought "Finally I found the place where the real car people hangout". Y'all have always been around for my car enthusiast years and we all owe it to you to throw some money your way.

 

 

twentyover
twentyover Dork
4/11/20 9:53 a.m.

I'd up for a 10 year subby, but I did that 2 years ago, and another 10 would make me 82 years old when the sub ran out. Don't think I'll make it that long. When did I get old?

 

As a matter of record, I'm on my second 10 year, I did the first in 2008(?) when you pitched it to raise capital for something or other.

Mustang50
Mustang50 Reader
4/11/20 11:40 a.m.

How are you guys doing financially?   Do you qualify for one of those SBA loans?   Is your printer still open?  Any idea when the next issue will be mailed?  I've been reading old issues just to pass the time.   This not what I expected retirement to be like.

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
4/11/20 1:53 p.m.

In reply to Mustang50 :

We're doing okay. I was raised by parents who grew up in the depression, and Tim's mom grew up in E. Germany during WWII, so we are naturally scrimper/savers who have worked hard to pay off all our debts. So we have some room, between owing nobody and our savings. The big wild card is how long, and how deep, the recession gets.

We do qualify for an SBA paycheck protection loan and I have applied, since keeping our peeps employed is our main concern. (And something I intend to do regardless.) Thankfully we have some resources to rely on until that (hopefully) comes through. Our printer is still operating as an essential business. So we are cautiously, um, not optimistic, but let's say nonpessimistic? Using projects, food and alcohol to manage the stress, like everyone else lol.

What I did not plan on was the outpouring of support, both emotional and financial, from this board. I wake up every morning thinking, "I have to post something to express my thankfulness and appreciation," then I don't because I just don't have the words. And anyone who knows me knows I have a LOT of words. (The best words.) All I can say is that I will work hard to be worthy of it, though I doubt it's possible.

As for next issue, we are actually right on schedule since our awesome staff went to WFH without missing a beat. May GRM mailed last week, so you should start seeing copies in mailboxes the end of this coming week or next week.

Margie

nderwater
nderwater UltimaDork
4/11/20 2:47 p.m.

Awesome!  We really appreciate it Margie.

Mustang50
Mustang50 Reader
4/11/20 2:55 p.m.

Thank you Margie, and all of your staff.   Reading this board is one of the few things I have to look forward to while we are under house arrest from this virus.  

Mike (Forum Supporter)
Mike (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
5/3/20 8:57 a.m.

Anyone else having a Patreon problem now that we're on month 2?

It seems like any payment method I enter is declined. While switching payment methods, it dropped GRM from my pledges. Can't add it back because, well, my payment methods are declined.

Edit: And the institutions at the other end of those payment methods don't show an attempt.

Looking at their https://twitter.com/PatreonSupport/with_replies twitter support feed, I'm not the only one. Compared to most support pages, it looks kinda bad.

 

einy (Forum Supporter)
einy (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
5/3/20 9:34 a.m.

My 2nd month went thru ok.

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
5/3/20 9:39 a.m.

Same 

Dave M (Forum Supporter)
Dave M (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
5/3/20 4:38 p.m.

Worked for me

revvhappy
revvhappy New Reader
5/3/20 4:53 p.m.

 

Happy to support the only magazine I read from cover-to-cover each issue. In for 10 years.

Kreb (Forum Supporter)
Kreb (Forum Supporter) UberDork
5/3/20 5:30 p.m.

In addition to GRM I am supporting half-a-dozen newspapers by subscribing to their online editions. Sure they're prone to occasional bias, but someone's got to fill us in.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado UltimaDork
5/3/20 5:36 p.m.

My Patreon went through on May 1 with no problem, I see it in an e-mail notification from P, and when checking my bank account balance online.

Maybe I *do* want a tag?

"Paperless".   :D 

Mike (Forum Supporter)
Mike (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
5/3/20 5:53 p.m.

I've been dropping in to the account throughout the day to hit retry, and it just keeps failing.
I just switched it back to the first payment method, and it went through this time.  I'm back in.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
5/3/20 7:51 p.m.
klipless (Forum Supporter) said:

Thanks for adding the 10 year option to the subscription page. I'm betting that you guys will come out the otherside a-okay.

I'm in for 10! 

I had thought about it, but I'm not sure I'll be around that long.  I still have a few years on the current 10 year sub.  

hybridmomentspass
hybridmomentspass New Reader
5/3/20 10:19 p.m.

Im just seeing this post, not a very active member here.

I just ordered a 2 year subscription this past Friday (see my Shoutout to Nancy thread!) and had her add some stickers (4 total) to my order. Didnt ask the price, just knew I wanted them.

We all need to make an effort to the support the ones who we enjoy. Be it a restaurant, coffee shop, or car mag. Support as much as you can or one day they wont be there for us.

 

Hope what I did on Friday helped out.

hybridmomentspass
hybridmomentspass New Reader
5/3/20 10:23 p.m.

Also, just opened up your YT page and am playing videos in the background. Hope that the extra views helps bring in some more money for you guys

I need yall around for a few more years, wanting to build a 20XX Challenge car one day!

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