Rate It: Ever Needed More Space in Your Focus ST? Ford Has You Covered With the Focus ST Wagon

Wagons. Either you love them or hate them. If you are anything like us, you think that wagons are pretty cool, especially when it’s a sporty wagon based on one of the automotive world's favorite performance hatchbacks, the Focus ST.

The warmed-up version of the Focus may be gone from American shores, but, like a lot of really interesting cars built these days, happily lives on in other parts of the world. To rub even more salt in the wound, Ford has been content on offering a wagon version of the ST to overseas buyers—six-speed manual transmission and all.

For Europe, the ST Wagon can be had with either a 2.3-liter, turbocharged inline-four or a 2.0-liter turbodiesel. The "petrol" engine is good for 276 horsepower and 309 lb.-ft. of torque, with the diesel engine capable of 187 horsepower and 295 lb.-ft. of torque. Perhaps surprising to some, both are only available with a six-speed manual transmission.

Zero-to-60 takes less than six seconds for the gasoline-powered ST (the diesel needs nearly eight seconds to reach that speed), and can keep accelerating to a top speed of 136 mph.

All of that in a car with over 50 cu.-ft. of luggage capacity and the ability to tow roughly 3900 pounds.

Do you think the Focus ST wagon is one of the best sporty wagons ever made, or is this nothing more than a slightly longer version of a performance hatchback?

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Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom UltimaDork
9/11/20 12:21 p.m.

I'll take the diesel!

I'll settle for the petrol version?

Not even a little?

No, thank you, I don't think I'll settle for an Escape...

It's frustrating enough to think that the modern world is just done with wagons and wants SUVs and the like. But somehow it's even worse to think that it's not universal, we just can't get wagons here. That in this huge market, where you'd think a given niche would be as big as some entire national markets, there isn't enough call to offer them.

ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter)
ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) Reader
9/11/20 12:31 p.m.

Want.

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/11/20 12:33 p.m.

Tease... (sigh...) sad

barefootskater
barefootskater UltraDork
9/11/20 12:34 p.m.

Almost enough to make me want to move to Europe. Almost

slowbird
slowbird SuperDork
9/11/20 12:36 p.m.

I can't wait to import one of these in 25 years. *sigh*

nderwater
nderwater UltimaDork
9/11/20 12:37 p.m.

What an interesting car.  I see a lot of Mazda in those body lines. 

shane86
shane86 New Reader
9/11/20 12:38 p.m.

If we'er talking glorious things we can't have.. how about the M140i Hatchback.
335 HP 6cyl turbo, 3 or 5 door hatch.. RWD, optional factory limited slip diff, Manual and 8-speed auto options, with a wheelbase that's only 9" longer than the current Z4.  

God, I want one so bad.  

mad_machine (Forum Supporter)
mad_machine (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/11/20 12:58 p.m.
Jesse Ransom said:

 

It's frustrating enough to think that the modern world is just done with wagons and wants SUVs and the like. But somehow it's even worse to think that it's not universal, we just can't get wagons here. That in this huge market, where you'd think a given niche would be as big as some entire national markets, there isn't enough call to offer them.

They do not want to sell niche vehicles here.  They want to move millions of a model every day.  

BlueInGreen - Jon (Forum Supporter)
BlueInGreen - Jon (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
9/11/20 1:14 p.m.

If only...

If that were sold here I’d seriously reconsider my dedication to not having a car payment. The Focus ST is a riot and with a wagon body it would be perfectly sized for my needs/wants.

I had thought about trading our plain old Focus sedan for an ST but the hatch wasn’t really enough of a space improvement to justify the upgrade. A wagon would be a different story.

...If only.

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
9/11/20 1:18 p.m.

In reply to shane86 :

That was so yesterday. Does the diesel, MT, ST wagon come in brown?

Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom UltimaDork
9/11/20 1:27 p.m.

In reply to mad_machine (Forum Supporter) :

Of course they do. But the smaller markets make clear that enough vehicles to sell can be worth selling.

I suppose it's a management/marketing philosophy thing. The phrase "world car" got bandied about a lot a few years ago. There are gains and losses in all sorts of decisions, and the contemporary management philosophies getting the most traction seem drive these decisions. C-level execs get excited about the efficiencies of doing an entire continent in two platforms, then they get excited about the efficiencies of doing the whole world in four platfoms. Both have truths, both are subject probably as much to implementation details and regulatory specifics to play out as the better option. I'm sure there are a bunch of other inputs to the decisions.

I imagine the big one is deciding whether something like the wagon above would take more from a competitor or from other of their own options. As soon as there's a tipping point on taking more of a competitor's sales by some margin...

More to the point, I used the word niche, but I used it in the context of that "niche" being the size of an entire national market elsewhere in the world. That's really a different meaning than a "niche vehicle" like a Miata.

rodknock
rodknock Reader
9/11/20 1:44 p.m.

I wish Ford didn't make the move to only sell CUVs and Mustangs in the US. But we didn't get the last gen wagon either so indecision

rattfink81
rattfink81 Reader
9/11/20 3:08 p.m.

Had ford sold that in the US either me or the wife would have bought one new as We both love really wagons and manuals. 

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 UberDork
9/11/20 3:19 p.m.

[insert comment of "if they sold it here I'd buy it in 10 years when I can afford it]

CyberEric
CyberEric Dork
9/11/20 3:19 p.m.

Ugh, don’t show me this!

There was actually a wagon version of the last ST too. Europe only of course.

Im sad Ford doesn’t sell any of the new Focii in the US. It’s a good looking car and the last one drove  well, don i assume this one does too.

cmcgregor (Forum Supporter)
cmcgregor (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
9/11/20 3:38 p.m.

I miss my ST. It's one of the only fun cars I've had that my wife has also liked driving, since it wasn't a. a total pile of crap or b. impossible to see out of. I'd be a buyer if we could get that here.

Stefan (Forum Supporter)
Stefan (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/11/20 5:33 p.m.

FML Ford, FML.

Now, make an RS version and go after the Subaru and similar owners.

Thinkkker
Thinkkker UltraDork
9/11/20 5:42 p.m.

Does it have rear facing seats?  Please tell me it has rear facing seats

 

11GTCS
11GTCS Reader
9/11/20 6:32 p.m.

I’d daily that but nooooo, we can only drive trucks and SUVs cause ‘murica’.  Sigh...

I mean I like trucks when I need to do truck things but if I’m driving somewhere I’d rather there be some fun involved.

Edited to add: just noticed the 3,900 pound tow rating.  Yup, that checks the final box for me. Sigh.

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) UberDork
9/11/20 6:58 p.m.

Thanks for posting. Now I'm depressed.

Stefan (Forum Supporter)
Stefan (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/11/20 11:15 p.m.

That said, a friend did have an older Focus Wagon and he had the tailgate latch repaired about 6 times before he gave up and left it latched and never used it.

So, there's a chance for some quality Ford engineering to show through (said as a '16 Focus RS owner)

Still, I'd like a chance to own one myself, but that would make too much sense, right?!

dxman92
dxman92 Dork
9/11/20 11:54 p.m.

Dear Ford, it is okay to sell wagons in the states. Subaru sells a butt load of them every year called the Outback!

CyberEric
CyberEric Dork
9/12/20 1:38 p.m.

I'm curious, what's the the take rate of these ST wagons in Europe? It can't be that high can it? I used to live in the UK and I never saw one. I'd see plenty of the HB ST, just never the wagon.

I'm wondering if it's really that much worse than what it would be in the US.

iceracer
iceracer MegaDork
9/13/20 4:06 p.m.

After 30+years of Ford cars I now own my last one.  They have nothing that appeals to me.

 The dealer even tried to steal my FiST away from me by an offer on a EcoBoost.   They must think I'm crazy.

Snrub
Snrub HalfDork
9/13/20 4:19 p.m.

It is a handsome car. I like that they're going against the bigger grill trend. They also tuck the nose down, which I think looks better. They've done similar in the current Escape and it looks a bit better.

Euro tow ratings are different, but 3900lbs is impressive.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
9/13/20 5:25 p.m.
barefootskater said:

Almost enough to make me want to move to Europe. Almost

If I lived in Europe or England and had the money to afford a new Focus ST, there are all manner of awesome cars I'd rather have.  205 GTI.  106 Rallye, the manic 1.3l version.  And even some cars that aren't French.

 

IIRC Foci are roughly double what they cost in the US, no?  I recall a friend in England spending the equivalent of $40k for a low spec model.  

rodknock
rodknock Reader
9/13/20 7:42 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:
barefootskater said:

Almost enough to make me want to move to Europe. Almost

If I lived in Europe or England and had the money to afford a new Focus ST, there are all manner of awesome cars I'd rather have.  205 GTI.  106 Rallye, the manic 1.3l version.  And even some cars that aren't French.

 

IIRC Foci are roughly double what they cost in the US, no?  I recall a friend in England spending the equivalent of $40k for a low spec model.  

Yeah the ST is about $40k for a base model. I always found the discrepancy between US and UK new car pricing kinda weird because used cars are so much cheaper over there. 

mad_machine (Forum Supporter)
mad_machine (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/14/20 8:53 a.m.
dxman92 said:

Dear Ford, it is okay to sell wagons in the states. Subaru sells a butt load of them every year called the Outback!

how does Subaru get away with that? I see more suby wagons than sedans.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
9/14/20 9:23 a.m.
mad_machine (Forum Supporter) said:
dxman92 said:

Dear Ford, it is okay to sell wagons in the states. Subaru sells a butt load of them every year called the Outback!

how does Subaru get away with that? I see more suby wagons than sedans.

Same reason Volvo does.

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