Haters Gonna Hate: Simply Clean Visits Daytona Beach

Is GRM becoming a stance magazine? No, no worries. Then why do we attend Simply Clean here in Daytona Beach each November? Because it’s a chance to take a refreshing look at car culture–new ideas, friendly faces and a reminder that, at the end of the day, this is all supposed to be about having fun. Check out our photos below, and let us know what you think in the comments. 

 

 

 

 

 

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ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
11/27/19 5:35 a.m.

Cars = Art

Edit: It is amazing how a car can look so "pedestrian" from the factory yet that very same car can become something of a masterpiece in the right hands.

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) PowerDork
11/27/19 6:00 a.m.

Most, not all, of those cars are fine. I'd jack them up a couple of inches and fix the camber errors, otherwise nicely done vehicles. Now , the one thing I think is just berkleying stupid  is the fad of having tires stretched so far that the side walls have a finger width gap to the edge of the rim. Nicest car in the pictures is the gray Rabbit IMHO.

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed UltraDork
11/27/19 6:38 a.m.

Very cool. I wouldn't want to have a stanced vehicle but I like the fact that young people are still doing their automotive thing.  So many of the young guys I know these days don't even want to get their driver's license anymore, preferring instead to hang out on social media and using uber.

Saron81
Saron81 Reader
11/27/19 6:54 a.m.

That MR2 looks cool!

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltimaDork
11/27/19 7:12 a.m.

I can dig the caddy and Benz...

aw614
aw614 Reader
11/27/19 7:16 a.m.

Heh, I know the owner of red e36 convertible. But I like a lot of the wannabe track look many have switched up to, though those are the same people who "claim" they want to track their car, only to back out at the last minute or always say their car "isn't ready". 

Though some of the mods make me scratch my head. Apparently this accord was at simply clean yikes....

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5SvSMrFCpX/

STM317
STM317 UltraDork
11/27/19 7:29 a.m.

 

JesseWolfe
JesseWolfe Reader
11/27/19 7:40 a.m.

I think stancing is beyond stupid, but my opinion doesn't matter.  I will say those cleaned up engine bays that appear to be completely unwired is a neat look.

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) PowerDork
11/27/19 7:59 a.m.

A bunch of these cars must be on air ride suspensions. It would be nice to see them at ride height.

759NRNG
759NRNG UltraDork
11/27/19 8:10 a.m.
Feedyurhed said:

Very cool. I wouldn't want to have a stanced vehicle but I like the fact that young people are still doing their automotive thing.  So many of the young guys I know these days don't even want to get their driver's license anymore, preferring instead to hang out on social media and using uber.

 

This......and car eye candy is always a good thing 

RevRico
RevRico PowerDork
11/27/19 8:13 a.m.

I thought that was some sort of aluminum foil covering. Nope, anime chicks. Explains a lot. 

I really like the wireless look though. Must be a massive pain in the ass to setup.

Shadeux
Shadeux Reader
11/27/19 8:26 a.m.

I REALLY wanted to attend this, but life has made other plans for me... Hopefully next year.

I love how much creativity goes into these - it's art that moves, and some of this will trickle into other parts of the automotive spectrum. Keeps things evolving and gets more people involved in automobiles.

Powar
Powar UltraDork
11/27/19 9:05 a.m.

That W123 sitting next to the Beetle is gorgeous. I think it would be fun to build something with air ride at some point. 

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy UltimaDork
11/27/19 9:49 a.m.

I wonder how many of those VWs were at H2O fest.

If you're not getting some contact information for paint and body shops at an event like this, you're doing it wrong.

 

LopRacer
LopRacer Dork
11/27/19 10:09 a.m.

Most of these I really like for one reason or another. I could do without stretched tires, but to each their own. I will echo I am just glad to still see bigger people playing with cars.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
11/27/19 10:25 a.m.
Powar said:

That W123 sitting next to the Beetle is gorgeous. I think it would be fun to build something with air ride at some point. 

We could easily feature that W123....

Powar
Powar UltraDork
11/27/19 10:48 a.m.
David S. Wallens said:
Powar said:

That W123 sitting next to the Beetle is gorgeous. I think it would be fun to build something with air ride at some point. 

We could easily feature that W123....

I'd be interested in reading about it. I've looked at a few of them over the years but never pulled the trigger. Most of them are pretty rotten up here.

Erikl
Erikl New Reader
11/27/19 10:51 a.m.

I hope alot of these folks will eventually get to a track or autocross and get the bug.  Then they can apply their passion and skills for a purpose beyond just showing.  There are many cars there that are not far from being a fun start at the track.

I am amazed that tires can be stretched that far and still be safe to drive even a few miles.

I echo the above - love to young folks still interested in the car.

 

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
11/27/19 11:30 a.m.

I use to be an opinionated prick. . .   Ok well that may not have changed much but I have become much more accepting opinionated prick of what others do with cars. Although allot of the things I see is not something I would build I can appreciate the work that goes in to it.  The art, and yes there is allot of engineering.  Some good and some bad but they dare to do it.  

A couple of years ago  I was at a car show and a 60-70 year old gentleman was there with his Lincoln town car from the early 90's.  Every nut bold and screw had been touched by him.  The car was a pearl metallic burgandy/purple flip flop paint with red shag interior and velvet diamond pattern seats with gold trim.  there was lace shadowed into the clear coat on the roof that was so deep you felt like you had to reach an inch to touch it. The wheels were real chrome wire spoke 15's with slightly stretched white walls.  They whole car ran on air bags.  And all this was just what I could remember.

What I have come to appreciate and greatly respect those that have there own vision and execute it.  Anyone can restore an old muscle car.  There is no creativity in doing that.  In fact it is about as far from being creative as you can get with a car.  If you have seen one restored 70 chevelle 454 ss you have seen them all.  Boring. . . 

People that hate on a particular type of car or group of enthusiasts are narrow minded.  Sad really.

I for one would welcome more stance in the GRM Magazine.  Why not?  There is some incredible builds there.  Grm should interview one and get the background on one of those cars and tell the owners and the cars story.  There was an argument about covering high end cars and why GRM actually reviews things like GT3's and new AMG's.  Why not stance or the "rust-o-mods"?  We are all car guys.  It is like a Red sox fan hating a Yankees fan. 

It is easy to be exclusive.  Hating something because you don't understand is unfortunately the norm with people. 

Being inclusive and accepting is hard.  But by doing so you may actually learn something.  These are the car guys I want to hang with.  

rob_lewis
rob_lewis UltraDork
11/27/19 11:34 a.m.

I'll never hate on someone enjoying their car.  They're keeping the car culture alive.

I'm stumped, however, on what car this is? 

 

-Rob

frenchyd
frenchyd PowerDork
11/27/19 11:43 a.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

Stay off my lawn you young wipper  snappers. Why I remember when pushrods replaced the Flathead.  
That's cool paint, It's just crazy man!  Far out!  
laugh

Actually they are impressive and I'm certain represent a great deal of dedication and sacrifice. Well Done

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
11/27/19 11:51 a.m.
rob_lewis said:

I'm stumped, however, on what car this is? 

 

-Rob

I really REALLY  Like that!!!!

Run_Away
Run_Away Dork
11/27/19 11:58 a.m.

In reply to rob_lewis :

That's a Nissan Gloria. Kinda like the 02ish Infiniti M45s grand-daddy

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
11/27/19 1:01 p.m.

You can find the Gloria's owner on Instagram. 

Here's a photo of the back of the car.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider UltraDork
11/27/19 1:17 p.m.

Really, this is just an extension of the early low rider culture.

 

What I like about a lot of the cars pictured is just the imagination and vision put into them. They are well thought out and the owners put the time and love to sweat the details on the build. I think it's great. It may or may not be my cup of tea but I can always appreciate a clean car.  

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
11/27/19 1:59 p.m.
RevRico said:

I thought that was some sort of aluminum foil covering. Nope, anime chicks. Explains a lot. 

I really like the wireless look though. Must be a massive pain in the ass to setup.

You can follow the Civic owner here. Also, gotta say thank you to those who stick their Instagram handle somewhere on their car. Makes it way easy to find them. 

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man UltraDork
11/27/19 3:01 p.m.

I love the Benzes and the Glorias, but that Mazda 6 on Vishnus makes me feel some type of way.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy UltimaDork
11/27/19 3:02 p.m.

I think the Gloria would look amazing with fender mounted side mirrors.

dyintorace
dyintorace PowerDork
11/27/19 6:20 p.m.

I went for the first time this year, and took my 15 year old son and his 16 year old friend. We all had a great time, and they LOVED the show. Some of the cars were head scratchers, but, overall, I was blown away by the enthusiasm on display. It was awesome! 

 

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
11/27/19 7:52 p.m.

 

This is nice

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
11/27/19 8:01 p.m.
DeadSkunk (Warren) said:

Most, not all, of those cars are fine. I'd jack them up a couple of inches and fix the camber errors, otherwise nicely done vehicles.

That's pretty much my thoughts as well, but that's how I'd do them - I understand others have different tastes and that's fine too.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
11/28/19 8:50 a.m.

I am always in the minority, but I really dislike anything, stance car, hot rod, anything, with no wires and hoses visible.  I'm not sure if it's because they appear non functional, or that I really appreciate beautifully done wire harnesses and hardlines and such.  

It could be that as a life long mechanic, I want access to that stuff when it goes wrong, too. 

DjGreggieP
DjGreggieP Reader
11/28/19 9:30 a.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

I'm kind of the same way. I like to see the hoses and wires done in a way that it adds to the look of the bay. I remember on one car I worked on, I spent hours trying to route plug wires and the wire separators so that they looked appealing to the eye since the owner wanted to use the car for summer cruising and car shows. 

I can appreciate the wire tucking on more modern vehicles because a lot of modern engine bays have miles of wires running through out, so a clean up to make the bay look less cluttered is also very appealing. 

Recon1342
Recon1342 Reader
11/28/19 9:14 p.m.

There are some very nice cars in that photo shoot; very nice cars indeed. I trend more toward 4wd trail rigs, but it’s easy to recognize the talent and sheer man hours that go into the building of any car. Good for them!

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
11/28/19 9:34 p.m.

I want anime girl valve covers for my datsun

Sil80redtop
Sil80redtop HalfDork
11/29/19 11:37 p.m.

In reply to rob_lewis :

Nissan Cedric

msterbeau
msterbeau New Reader
11/30/19 1:32 a.m.

Stancing is aesthetically questionable and functionally stupid and dangerous.  All in the name of what?  Being trendy?  

msterbeau
msterbeau New Reader
11/30/19 1:35 a.m.

In reply to Patrick :

If we get a choice, I would prefer vintage pinups, please.

Recon1342
Recon1342 Reader
11/30/19 6:06 a.m.

In reply to msterbeau :

I feel much the same way as you do; however, most of these cars are 1) not daily driven, and 2) contain thousands of man hours each to reach the point they’ve reached in terms of being “show ready”

It is utter foolishness to not recognize the work and talent that have gone into them, despite one’s  personal opinion of the car itself. 

The0retical
The0retical UberDork
11/30/19 8:05 a.m.

I love a shaved bay.

Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
11/30/19 8:44 a.m.
msterbeau said:

In reply to Patrick :

If we get a choice, I would prefer vintage pinups, please.

Why not both?

 

 

 

Homura Akemiisn't the God we wanted, but the God we deserved

dyintorace
dyintorace PowerDork
11/30/19 11:45 a.m.

Managed to get my photos off my phone and onto my laptop. Here are some highlights from our visit.

Justjim75
Justjim75 Dork
11/30/19 3:04 p.m.

I for one would like to invite any one of them to join my next Challenge effort for the concours.  That said, those cars are, simply........CLEAN.

I cant support anything that makes a car dangerous or undriveable, i wont even put aero on my Miata because it will get broken on a speed bump or keep me from easily getting into my trunk, so their dedication is admirable for sure.  Where are the plug wires on that Honda?!?!?

Justjim75
Justjim75 Dork
11/30/19 3:08 p.m.

In reply to The0retical :

Are we still talking about cars?

Shadeux
Shadeux Reader
11/30/19 3:32 p.m.

In reply to dyintorace :

Thanks for posting that! I had plans to go but had to do something else. At least I saw a little bit, thanks to you!

docwyte
docwyte UberDork
11/30/19 4:14 p.m.

Not my thing, I don't get the "stance" thing at all.  Seems like a great way to ruin a car but I'm happy to see people enjoying the hobby as they want.  That's the important thing.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
11/30/19 4:38 p.m.

I really like this!!!!

 

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku UltimaDork
12/1/19 6:38 p.m.

A few are more "art" than "car" but overall I like what I see and you have to respect the time and talent applied here.

thedoc
thedoc Reader
12/7/19 8:12 a.m.

I used to have an attitude about these cars.  I forgot how much I loved my first year honda crx, and all the hondas I have owned.  I had become such a "ford" guy and mustang guy.  I actually invented the rat rod culture back in the late 70's, but we just called it being poor.  I had so many mg midgets and bug eyed sprites.  I loved all those cars and was so disappointed when no one saw them for the beauties they could become or what I saw in my minds eye.   When I remembered that at a mixed car show, I was able to really appreciate the "other cars".  I was at world of wheels last year in boston.  They had quite a few tuner cars.  When I told these guys how I really thought their cars were works of art, they lit up and were ready to tell me about their builds.  It was obvious some of the crowd didn't and couldn't appreciate the tuner set.  Maybe having a 17 year old son helps.  He is amazed at the stanced cars.  But he grew up watching road kill, so he actually loves  beaters.

Now that we have two miatas, I think we have gone full circle.  Of course, I had to tweak some noses with my car.  Do you think the license plate, "Ricer X" would not be appreciated by this crowd?

Anyway, like the rest of you, I am just happy to see the younger set loving cars and I can appreciate all the work put into these things.

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