2022 Honda Civic Si review

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Jun 8, 2022 | Honda, Civic, New Car Review, Si | Posted in Buyer's Guides , Features | Never miss an article

Yes, the 2022 Honda Civic Si is, on paper, down on power compared to the outgoing 10th generation model–but will anybody notice the five missing ponies? And, perhaps more importantly, how does it handle track use? Keep reading to find out.

 

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David S. Wallens
Editorial Director

My review is short: I’d buy one. Like, take my money.

Let me explain. My wife and I are no stranger to the Civic Si. We had an ’86, a ’92 and, when new, a 2000. We currently own a 2014 Civic Si sedan.

Then add in two CRXs: a supercharged 1988 Si and a B16A-powered HF.

Plus the magazine’s 2002 and 2019 Civic Si project cars lived with us.

So, yeah, no stranger to those two letters.

We keep coming back to the Civic Si for some simple reasons as the cars are fun, practical, reliable and reasonably priced. You can autocross them, track them, commute in them. I don’t have to worry about one leaving us on the side of the road. (Touch wood, our 2014 has only needed tires and a battery so date.)

The latest Civic Si continues that trend, and I’d call it an update on the previous model–much like how the ninth generation was an update on the eighth or how the Civic line progressed through the wishbone models.

Big selling points that would get me to move on from our current car: the more conventional dashboard and side widows. I don’t mind the bi-level dash found in our car as well as its predecessor, but I wouldn’t say I love it. The same can be said for those little “vent” windows.

The new car also sits lower than our ninth-generation car. It’s quieter, too. It’s the right size for us and just felt so comfortable on track.

I realize that all of this can be said about the previous one as well, and for not a pandemic, we’d probably have bought one. It did all of the Civic Si things that we know and love. The only issue was timing as the loan ended right as the lockdown began. Due to the uncertainty, I let the car go back to Honda. A friend then offered his to me, and I had to pass on that one as well.

Do I miss the VTEC? Yeah, a bit, and I know what it’s like to hustle a B-series around the track. But torque is torque, and our 2019 Civic Si showed me the way of Honda’s current turbo engines.

The clock says that the newer one is faster–and faster is faster. If I could turn back time, though, I’d love to have a yellow 2019, but in today’s market, assuming we can score one, I am very, very intrigued by the latest one.

Tom Suddard
Director of Marketing & Digital Assets

Five years ago, I flew out for the launch of the 10th generation Honda Civic Si. And while I liked the car, my review ended on a backhanded compliment: Buy the sedan vs. the coupe, because

People will make fun of you for driving a poky coupe that has a turbo and driver-adjustable shocks but won’t win any autocrosses. But people will commend your practical decision-making skills for driving a slightly sporty sedan that can stiffen itself up a bit during that mountain-road vacation, but won’t ride harshly enough to wake up your sleeping baby, or drone on the highway enough to give your passenger a headache.

One year later, that same car won G-street at the SCCA Solo Nationals, beating the Golf GTI and Focus ST I said were faster cars in my review. Honda proved the internet wrong and built a best-in-class sports car that was also the most civil option for the daily commute. 

Oops.

At least I learned my lesson and approached my time in the 11th-generation Civic Si more cautiously. Had Honda worked its magic again? 

We’ll start from ten feet away: This one isn’t nearly as ugly as the outgoing car. In fact, I’d call it pretty! Looks are always subjective, but I’m glad the off-brand transformer styling is gone. Step inside, and the interior looks and feels great, too: Soft materials, a standard sunroof, and comfortable seats. Props to Honda for including wireless Apple CarPlay, too.

How’s the new Civic Si drive? Sorry, but I still have the same complaints I had before: It’s a little boring, and by that I mean the upper end of the tach is pointless and the flywheel feels heavy. This car doesn’t feel fast--it drives like a normal Civic, only slightly faster.

In fact, the only time I felt the Si badge was around a corner, where the chassis seemed instantly 500 lbs. lighter, precise steering, easy handling, and a real limited slip spinning both front tires on the exit. Then the road straightened out and it was back to mehville.

While the outgoing Type R stirs my soul, this car is just, well, a car. 

So what’s my verdict? Given the last generation’s success on course, I’m going to assume Honda’s built another sleeper when it comes to competition. Overall, this is the perfect car to do it all, and the best daily driver I’ve tested in a while.

Would I buy one? Well, sorry, but no. Maybe it’s because I grew up watching The Fast and the Furious, but I’d buy a 9th-generation Civic Si over this one. I’d rather hear the wail of VTEC on every onramp, even if all that noise happens as an 11th-gen Civic blows past me in quiet, understated competence.

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trucke
trucke SuperDork
6/7/22 2:50 p.m.

Can't help it!  Big fan of this car.  Wonderful commuter car.

jmhonnold
jmhonnold New Reader
6/7/22 2:59 p.m.

As the oringal owner of a 1990 CRX Si, I feel similarly to the analysis.  I may be old fashioned, but I would really like to see the comeback of a simple and fun car to drive.  The CRX Si was a great example of that.  It had everything I needed/wanted, A/C, heat, and radio.  Better yet it easily got 40 MPG on the highway.  It is too bad the direction of the auto industry is to cram 'features' in a car that detracts from the driving experience making the experience boring. 

DRSZone
DRSZone
6/7/22 3:49 p.m.

too big, I mean it looks as big as the accord now. 

 

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture UltimaDork
6/7/22 4:54 p.m.
DRSZone said:

too big, I mean it looks as big as the accord now. 

Luckily, it isn't. Still under 3000 lbs (a wonder these days), while also being a whole foot shorter, 3" narrower, and 2" lower.

Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter)
Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/7/22 4:58 p.m.

In reply to pointofdeparture :

Seriously?  That's pretty damn imressive these days.  Color me impressed.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
6/7/22 5:23 p.m.

Stop - I want one and this is generating interest.

Tony Sestito
Tony Sestito UltimaDork
6/8/22 3:37 p.m.

I've tried buying a Civic Si for a daily driver twice now, and fate intervened both times. In 2011, the Japanese Tsunami halted production and cars became scarce on the ground (and prices skyrocketed), and in late 2020, they had just discontinued the 10th gen cars and dealers were starting to charge crazy pandemic premiums for them. I ended up with competent competitors both times (a 2012 Mazda 3 2.5 S and a 2020 Kia Forte GT), but the Si still haunts me. I still consider the 8th Gen Si to be the daily driver benchmark, and both the cars I chose are close to that on paper, at least. 

I'm just glad Honda still makes a Si, and the current one seems like a great car. Maybe the stars will align next time I'm car shopping. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/8/22 5:23 p.m.

I thought that I had a better photo of the two cars together but the newer one sits a bit lower. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/8/22 5:25 p.m.

Here's a (maybe) better shot of the two together.

Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter)
Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/8/22 5:25 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

Sure makes the older one look homely.

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/8/22 5:27 p.m.

In reply to Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter) :

A bit. And we really like our "old" one, but the new one is a bit refined. 

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/8/22 5:31 p.m.

I'm still debating getting a 10th gen coupe or wait for the 11th gen I have a deposit down on.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/8/22 5:33 p.m.

I really miss our 10th gen coupe and was surprised to see the new car that much faster. 

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
6/8/22 7:38 p.m.

Dealer I bought my Pilot from - New Si?  I can get our normal $5,000 over MSRP down to a $3,000 adjustment.   

Other dealer - MSRP + $5,000 + 2 mandatory packages or figure $7,000 over MSRP.   

I'm ready for this to end......

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture UltimaDork
6/8/22 8:28 p.m.

In reply to Datsun310Guy :

Don't go in the thread about DTC auto sales, you'll be told that's just one bad dealer and that the adjustments are because the dealer adds value to the process.

CyberEric
CyberEric Dork
6/8/22 8:29 p.m.

Big props to Honda for keeping the weight down. It's a miracle. Especially given how huge this car looks. 

Also big props for making it look good. And for giving us a MT!

That turbo 1.5 makes me nervous based on what I've heard about it in the last gen, but maybe they ironed out the issues now.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/8/22 8:38 p.m.
CyberEric said:

Big props to Honda for keeping the weight down. It's a miracle. Especially given how huge this car looks. 

Also big props for making it look good. And for giving us a MT!

That turbo 1.5 makes me nervous based on what I've heard about it in the last gen, but maybe they ironed out the issues now.

What issues are you speaking about?  I haven't heard anything negative.  

Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter)
Adrian_Thompson (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/9/22 9:49 a.m.

Saw a new SI in the wild for the first time walking the dog last night.  It looks really great in person.  I think I've figured out what I like about it.  It's taken what works with (generic term here) 'Japanese' styling, but stops short of going all out and looking cartoonish.  It's a great development of the general Japanese car companies bold aggressive design language, without being so exaggerated to look like my adolescent car doodles at the back of class. 

CyberEric
CyberEric Dork
6/9/22 12:28 p.m.

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)

Excessive oil dilution problems is one thing I know about. Honda extended the warranty to address it. I'm not an expert as I'm not in the market for a Honda with a 1.5T, but just heard some issues especially in cold climates and/or short drive cycles. Google to learn more, there are a bunch of articles and videos about it.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 PowerDork
6/9/22 1:44 p.m.

I would've loved to have one but I couldn't find one for less than $37k out the door in Florida, lower Alabama, or Georgia. They are also flying off the lots so there's no negotiating. Makes me regret selling my 10th gen a lot. 

einy (Forum Supporter)
einy (Forum Supporter) Dork
6/9/22 2:13 p.m.

Two dealers in the Cincinnati area are selling Si's for $2,500 over MSRP - if you can get your name on one; another tacks on $1,500 for the (now) mandatory "exterior and interior protection package".  I, too, am ready for this bologna to end.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
6/9/22 4:59 p.m.

In reply to einy (Forum Supporter) :

$1500 isn't bad compared to the $5-$7,000 I heard lately.

This one feels pimped out to me.  can we still say that?

https://www.carmax.com/car/22445685

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/10/22 2:07 a.m.
CyberEric said:

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)

Excessive oil dilution problems is one thing I know about. Honda extended the warranty to address it. I'm not an expert as I'm not in the market for a Honda with a 1.5T, but just heard some issues especially in cold climates and/or short drive cycles. Google to learn more, there are a bunch of articles and videos about it.

That's pretty common on all DI engines.  Super high fuel pressures with short trips lots of stopping and starting = more fuel in the oil.  What do you think probably causes bore scoring in Porsche engines?  It's probably fuel washing the cylinder walls.  Gunked up intakes are also fairly common on DI.  Oil service intervals are again super important.  I will be taking longer trips in a warmer climate so that will help a bit.  Every engine design has its compromises.  

trucke
trucke SuperDork
6/10/22 9:41 a.m.

The new eleventh generation Si can sip fuel too!   This is a mix of about 70/30 hwy/city. Snapped this photo in the parking lot before going into the office.

Love the convenience options available too.  Always hated groceries being slung out of the bag and tossed around the trunk.  Now I've got a bag hook (backpack attached) and cargo netting which is sewn closed on the sides.  Netting attached to 4 'T' hooks for easy removal.

 

 

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture UltimaDork
6/10/22 12:20 p.m.

In reply to trucke :

C&D has historically posted some incredible real-world MPG numbers in Civics with the 1.5T, good to hear that hasn't changed.

That trunk backpack hanger is awesome, trivial as it is. Little touches like that remind me of Honda's golden age.

trucke
trucke SuperDork
6/10/22 2:20 p.m.
Datsun310Guy said:

In reply to einy (Forum Supporter) :

$1500 isn't bad compared to the $5-$7,000 I heard lately.

This one feels pimped out to me.  can we still say that?

https://www.carmax.com/car/22445685

This has factory accessories: optional wheels and HPD body parts.  No price listed, so I bet they are quite proud of it!

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
6/10/22 2:57 p.m.

It was upper 30's?  $38,000?

Sold in 1 day.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/10/22 6:22 p.m.

Found a 2018 Si coupe with 8400 miles for 29.9....  sadly I think that's going to be my commuter.  I will be picking it up tomorrow.  The 2022 is faster yes, but the old one has heated seats and it will commute hard!

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/11/22 1:37 p.m.

I ended up with a 2018.  It was a lease car with only 8400 miles.  It'll get commuter chores for quite a while.  
 

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CrustyRedXpress
CrustyRedXpress GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/11/22 1:49 p.m.
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:
CyberEric said:

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)

Excessive oil dilution problems is one thing I know about. Honda extended the warranty to address it. I'm not an expert as I'm not in the market for a Honda with a 1.5T, but just heard some issues especially in cold climates and/or short drive cycles. Google to learn more, there are a bunch of articles and videos about it.

That's pretty common on all DI engines.  [snip] What do you think probably causes bore scoring in Porsche engines?  It's probably fuel washing the cylinder walls.  

AFAIK bore scoring is common on the m96/m97 engines, not the direct injection engines that followed them in 2009. 

Take it with a grain of salt-I'm not a porsche guy.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/11/22 1:59 p.m.
CrustyRedXpress said:
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:
CyberEric said:

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)

Excessive oil dilution problems is one thing I know about. Honda extended the warranty to address it. I'm not an expert as I'm not in the market for a Honda with a 1.5T, but just heard some issues especially in cold climates and/or short drive cycles. Google to learn more, there are a bunch of articles and videos about it.

That's pretty common on all DI engines.  [snip] What do you think probably causes bore scoring in Porsche engines?  It's probably fuel washing the cylinder walls.  

AFAIK bore scoring is common on the m96/m97 engines, not the direct injection engines that followed them in 2009. 

Take it with a grain of salt-I'm not a porsche guy.

I went to a class to learn how to rebuild M96 engines.  The instructor owns a business that specializes in rebuilding Porsche engines.  I could offer other information, but why try and change the opinions of the internet?  
 

If I buy another Porsche it will be 987.1 Cayman S.

 

trucke
trucke SuperDork
6/13/22 1:41 p.m.
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:

I ended up with a 2018.  It was a lease car with only 8400 miles.  It'll get commuter chores for quite a while.  
 

k

Congratulations on this score!  

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/13/22 2:07 p.m.

In reply to trucke :

Thank you.  The '22 I have on order will allegedly be built next week.  It'll ship soon thereafter.  I'm tempted to go drive it and trade if it really is so much better.  I'd take a few thousand as a hit, but it is doable.  

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/14/22 7:39 p.m.

First commute at 50-70 depending on stretch of road.  I probably average 57 or so on trip.  Mileage is looking promising.

Slippery
Slippery GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
6/14/22 7:45 p.m.

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) :

Is the car fun/enjoyable to drive?

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/14/22 8:13 p.m.

In reply to Slippery :

So far, yes.  It has great steering feel and feedback.  It handles extremely well.  The shifter is really good for a cable operated shifter.  The controls and instruments are well placed.  The interface is pretty easy to use too.  The seats are super supportive but comfortable.  The seats might be the biggest issue for some, but then there is the Civic sport.  I feel the stock tires make a lot of road noise for all seasons.  The exhaust is quiet, maybe too quiet.  Other than a few visual tweaks and maybe a muffler I'm leaving this one stock.  It has the fastest ratio steering of any street car I've owned and on some of the winding forest roads on my route, that is a lot of fun.  I wouldn't have to slow for any corners, but deer and logging trucks are real concerns.  
 

The only real knock so far is the cruise does not hold speed as well as my GM cars.  The Tahoe and my Colorado were dead on.  The Si loses and gains with the terrain more than most cars I've driven.  It could be due to only bring 1.5 liters of engine.  
 

The thing that slays me most is how far cars have come.  This thing is as fast or faster than my first 5.0 Fox Mustang 0-60 and 1/4 mile, but it handles and rides so much better all from 1.5L and it is efficient.  Honestly had GRM never tested it, I'd probably have never driven one.  No other car I've seen offers as much fun and 40 mpg.  

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/15/22 5:01 p.m.

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) :

I'm both so happy and jealous. :) 

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/15/22 9:18 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

Well it's partly your fault :).  And you all have some project cars I'd love to have too.  Space and money are real constraints though :).  
 

Also I just topped off the gas tank and got 42 mpg including commuting and weekend errands.  

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/16/22 12:58 p.m.

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) :

Just to clarify...You're talking about the 2018, not the 2022, correct?

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/16/22 3:08 p.m.

In reply to Woody (Forum Supportum) :

Yes I have a 2022 on order, but isn't here.  I may let it go since I'm not excited to take a big hit on trading this one.  If anyone wants a white 2022 at MSRP it might actually arrive in July...,

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/16/22 3:30 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

Did you test the new car on the high performance summer tires?

I see that there is only a $200 difference between the Si and Si HPT. I'm not sure if there are any other changes other than the tires.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/16/22 4:18 p.m.

In reply to Woody (Forum Supportum) :

Just tires

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
6/23/22 3:02 p.m.
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Woody (Forum Supportum) :

Yes I have a 2022 on order, but isn't here.  I may let it go since I'm not excited to take a big hit on trading this one.  If anyone wants a white 2022 at MSRP it might actually arrive in July...,

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Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
6/23/22 3:11 p.m.

I might now why Si's seem to be hard to find.

Acura Integras - 2 dealers had three on the lot with stick shift. These are higher priced but a dude near me has the one I liked.   Just that $41,000 with tax price hurts....

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/23/22 4:10 p.m.

As an aside I should have a VIN now for the 2022 and I do not.

trucke
trucke SuperDork
6/23/22 4:23 p.m.
Datsun310Guy said:

I might now why Si's seem to be hard to find.

Acura Integras - 2 dealers had three on the lot with stick shift. These are higher priced but a dude near me has the one I liked.   Just that $41,000 with tax price hurts....

Exactly!  Honda knows how to maximize profit from the limited amount of manual transmissions.

trucke
trucke SuperDork
6/23/22 4:27 p.m.

This might help you find one!        Si's in transit

They seem to be in transit a long time.  Waiting for an available trucker to move them I suspect.  Once they arrive a the dealer, they are immediately sold or marked up and they sit on the lot.

Slippery
Slippery GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
6/23/22 4:40 p.m.
trucke said:

This might help you find one!        Si's in transit

They seem to be in transit a long time.  Waiting for an available trucker to move them I suspect.  Once they arrive a the dealer, they are immediately sold or marked up and they sit on the lot.

That is a very cool application! Thanks for sharing.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/23/22 8:02 p.m.

In reply to Slippery :

That website does not update properly.  I was checking it routinely and it appears to be frozen. 

trucke
trucke SuperDork
6/24/22 10:09 a.m.
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Slippery :

That website does not update properly.  I was checking it routinely and it appears to be frozen. 

As stated, it takes a while for a truck to pull the cars out of the rail yard and they stay 'in-transit' for a while.  It worked when I tracked my Si, but it does not change quickly.  It is not a delay in the program as it pulls data directly from Honda.  

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/27/22 5:26 p.m.

Aside from the car from the media test fleet, has anyone actually seen one of these at a dealer or on the road yet? I've been searching dealer inventories on the Honda website and I keep coming up with "0 in your area".

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture UltimaDork
6/27/22 5:28 p.m.

I have seen exactly one on the road here in Northern California so far.

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/27/22 5:30 p.m.
pointofdeparture said:

I have seen exactly one on the road here in Northern California so far.

So, you're telling me there's a chance...

calteg
calteg SuperDork
6/27/22 5:57 p.m.

I've seen two on the road in TX, no orange ones though

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/27/22 7:13 p.m.
trucke said:
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to Slippery :

That website does not update properly.  I was checking it routinely and it appears to be frozen. 

As stated, it takes a while for a truck to pull the cars out of the rail yard and they stay 'in-transit' for a while.  It worked when I tracked my Si, but it does not change quickly.  It is not a delay in the program as it pulls data directly from Honda.  

It's wrong.  I've been checking the site and local dealers.  It is not updating.  The 22 I ordered was built Thursday and will be here in about two weeks.  One car showing locally on that tracker arrived and was delivered months ago and it shows as in transit.  My guess is however it updates is broken or the person doing it stopped updating it by now.  

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/27/22 8:36 p.m.

In reply to Woody (Forum Supportum) :

This is all the Daytona Honda dealer shows for new cars:

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