Can fast tires also be quiet?

David S.
By David S. Wallens
Jun 10, 2022 | tires, Maxxis, GRM+, 200tw, Victra VR-1 | Posted in Tires & Wheels , News and Notes | Never miss an article

Photography by Chris Tropea

Performance tires have traditionally traded speed for comfort. After all, does a little hum on the highway matter when you’re clipping apexes?

But we noticed something while driving on the Maxxis Victra VR-1: For a 200tw tire that has performed well in our track tests, it’s still rather quiet and civil around town. So we asked questions–like what causes a …

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msterbeau New Reader
6/10/22 2:46 p.m.

Civilized?  Pffft...  

wearymicrobe PowerDork
6/10/22 5:44 p.m.

If you are running 200tw tires, tire noise is the least of your problems. 


Thought it is nice to know that you can run them to and from an event and not be droned out of your car. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/10/22 6:20 p.m.

True story, it was time to put new tires on our Civic Si, and on the way back from JG & Duck Tire Svc. I was like, these are way too quiet for 200tw.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/11/22 2:00 p.m.

Still not understanding how a mostly smooth tire can be "loud".  I mean, I hear enough people mention it to accept that it can be a thing, but I don't get it.

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
6/16/22 11:47 p.m.

I can't hear anything above the sound of my Miata exhaust. 


NickD MegaDork
6/17/22 6:12 a.m.

The Nexen N Fera SUR4G were really quiet on the road and they didn't tramline at all, despite the pretty aggressive alignment my car had on it. The downside was that they were also absolutely silent when you were driving the car hard, there was no noise until you were overdriving the car and it just chewed them to bits.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
6/17/22 10:27 a.m.

In reply to NickD :

Yeah, somewhere there's a desirable point between quiet and talkative. Some communication at the limit is appreciated. 

te72 Reader
6/21/22 1:23 a.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

Personal experience with R888R's on an LS400 tells me that they have a weird hum to them that is not exactly pleasant. Even at low speeds, so I don't think it's so much the wind creating it in this specific car's case. Too big a smile on my face autocrossing a big car like that to really care, but yes, it's a thing. A weird thing, admittedly.


Other unexpectedly civil tire? Kuhmo V730, in the ubiquitous 205/50/15 Miata fitment. Drove it 500 miles round trip for an autocross last year, and was pleasantly surprised at how quiet and rain worthy it was, in new condition. Now that it's had a half dozen events on it... I suspect it wouldn't do as well in the rain. =P

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
6/21/22 6:38 a.m.

In reply to te72 :

When I look at the V730 tires that have more than a half dozen events on them, they sure don't look like they would work on the wet. The outside 2/3 is a slick. 

They're good tires for dry autocross though. I've driven on them for a few events in my friend's 19 civic sport, and I was impressed. He trailers it to events, so not much street driving. 

Cactus HalfDork
6/21/22 12:32 p.m.

If you have unmuffled side pipes, all tires are quiet.

Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/21/22 12:48 p.m.

If your HPDE run group tracks after the Spec Miata group, it won't matter how quite your tires were before you took the track. 

After three quarters of a lap of pretty severe extra rubber rumble, I threw a chunk of rubber at a car as I pointed him by that looked like it could have been a roof shingle. 

te72 Reader
6/22/22 8:52 p.m.

In reply to Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) :

Doc, at that point in a tire's life, you're right. When new though, I was able to drive across the state (Wyoming) and back, in pretty heavy rain on the way back too. Didn't miss a beat even at 70+ mph. Would probably make a decent street tire for a couple years, if you're like me and only get 3-4 months of decent weather.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/22/22 9:39 p.m.

Tire howl is a real thing.  I can't believe some of the tires some spec as OEM.  My Civic Si is all tire noise right now.  My wife's Tiguan was the same way.  When we changed tires on her car at 30k miles it was a totally different and better car.  Updating the tires on my Colorado also helped quite a bit.  I will be doing Continental All Terrain Contacts on my wifes new Tahoe in another 25k miles or so too. 

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