1000 pounds and 2 seconds faster on a road course. I would have thought the difference would be more pronounced. What does everyone else think?
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1000 pounds and 2 seconds faster on a road course. I would have thought the difference would be more pronounced. What does everyone else think?
Same tire compound I think but Porsche's tires are wider by almost half an inch front and back.
Also, the Porsche has more HP, and more than a few years of sports car engineering prowess behind it.
Edit: doh! I only remembered the second half of the statement that seems plenty contradictory:
"Aside from a set of Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 tires, it’s still stock. Our 818 rolls on Yokohama Advan Neova AD08 R tires, making this a fair fight right down to the rubber."
I imagine that someone who isn't as dialed in with the Porsche as Shields might find the performance gap to be greater.
I agree, but someone with a lot of experience tracking any MR car has got to be closer than average to hopping into an 818 and doing well.
I think one thing that's not really mentioned here is that the 818 seems intended to be a thrill machine, and it's a little incongruous to have a mostly stock powertrain in it. Add a little 'easy turbo power' and the gap could become fairly huge, especially on a faster track. Not very easy (or cheap) to add power to the Boxster.
If we're tossing out the "living with this car on regular roads" and really just comparing track capability, why not compare the 818 with a track-use Boxster S? From what I've read, a Boxster S stripped down to a "track spec but still street legal" (including a hardtop) gets down to about 2500lbs or less.
Also minor bone to pick that I didn't notice on the first read. For the FF you list the power as 225 (wheel) but list the porsche as 250 (flywheel). This is not apples to apples. 250 at the flywheel is more like 210 at the wheel for the Porsche. So anyone surprised about the "more powerful Porsche" being slower, should look again.... At very least you could have talked to your Porsche tuner buddies (I know you must have one) and found out what a typical "wheel" horsepower for the Boxster is.
Side note: remind me what engine/turbo is in your 818?
In any case, not defending the Porsche per se, but I'm an analyst so I like to see comparitive analysis conducted using the same criteria and rating. I suspect that a 2500# Boxster S with the same level of "track" modifications as your 818 would probably beat the 818 on the track, or at least come close to it. Just speculation there, of course.
Both will badly thrash my 924S on the track, haha (and my WRX will absolutely annihilate it...)
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