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JoeTR6
JoeTR6 Dork
7/28/21 9:20 p.m.

Didn't the Daimler SP250 use hemi heads.

That valve gear looks clean, which is an encouraging sign.

RichardSIA
RichardSIA Dork
7/28/21 10:14 p.m.
JoeTR6 said:

Didn't the Daimler SP250 use hemi heads.

That valve gear looks clean, which is an encouraging sign.

That is another one, but not the one I was thinking of for weird valve train.

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UltraDork
7/29/21 7:18 a.m.

Well the Bristol 6 was a pushrod hemi head, but the valve train on it was vastly more complex (German design) and inferior to this or the Daimler.

RichardSIA
RichardSIA Dork
8/1/21 10:48 p.m.

Bristol Six was what I was thinking of.

Not a good day for the Europa. crying

Finally got the head off to look at why No. 4 had such low compression.
Still do not know for certain as I have to lock down the cylinders before I can turn it over for a clear look. Have to buy some short metric bolts for that.
But I know I have a rust line in No. 3, probably from the twenty years of sitting.
It's not deep, "Might" hone out but that is not the way to hold spec.
Thin oil into No. 4 runs out pretty quickly at the rear of the piston, bad ring?
In any case this is not going to be just a valve job repair.

Better news is that the head does appear to have hade some work done, combustion chamber has had all the sharp edges dressed.
Exhaust ports look oily, seems it was also being run rich.
Have to get it clean to see what sort of porting may have been done.

Going to have to find some real money for this rebuild.

RevRico
RevRico UltimaDork
8/2/21 6:52 a.m.

In reply to RichardSIA :

Couple of instant torque electric motors at the wheels would probably be a lot cheaper and easier

In reply to RichardSIA :

Are parts expensive, or are you more concerned about the machine work?

Brotus7
Brotus7 Dork
8/2/21 8:52 a.m.

I think Europas have alot in common with boats. Getting one is the cheap part, getting/keeping it running is not. Godspeed!

RichardSIA
RichardSIA Dork
8/2/21 11:48 a.m.

Renault engines are no longer common in the USA but I do have parts $ources from Europe.
Yes, machine shop is something of an issue as all the local guys have closed up.
Combination of newer cars being disposable at 200K+ miles and China Virus.
Remaining competent shops are in high demand, so expensive.
I already have two engines being worked on, SBC and Buick 225.

RE: Electric motors.
OK, thank you for releasing me from my resolution to try to "Play nice" with the EV topics!
Funny thing is that of all the forums I visit this is the only one where EV's are a contentious issue.
That may be due to this being the only automotive forum outside of the EV Fanboise sites where the bias in favor of them is so blatant. Paid content?
Cannot all be just neutral "News" as the many negatives such as Tesla's most recent spontaneous combustion while parked, are never seen.

Time to go quit the new job, work is OK but the Phlebitis in my legs cannot tolerate standing all day. 

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UltraDork
8/2/21 4:03 p.m.

Given the lack of a need to bore a wet sleeve engine there is every chance that no machine work will be needed at all for a perfect rebuild. Just a new piston/liner kit and fresh bearings and gaskets so long as the head is still flat. 

RichardSIA
RichardSIA Dork
8/2/21 10:26 p.m.

Engine pics.

RichardSIA
RichardSIA Dork
8/4/21 12:26 a.m.

Everybody loves pics.
Got a piston cleaned up enough to read it.
Standard bore but not compression.

 

acheron64
acheron64 New Reader
8/5/21 4:53 p.m.

Those motors are delightful simplicity, have done a few renault 12 piston and liner kits with the block still in the car. Good fun to work on.

RichardSIA
RichardSIA Dork
8/17/21 11:43 p.m.

Found a guy parting out a Europa TC race car.
Trying to buy the cage so that I may participate in Track and HC events at more than a Touring pace.
Funds are tight and as always he is on the other side of the country, so shipping would be significant.

RichardSIA
RichardSIA Dork
8/30/21 5:55 p.m.

Guess I am going to Monterrey to sort wiring on a semi-restored Europa a dealer bought.
At least the windshield is out so the job will be simpler.
I cannot do "The Lotus position*" very well anymore.
May end up getting it running as well, but I am Not going to be the one putting the $1,000.00 windshield back in.

*Basically standing on your head to work under the dash, inside a tiny cabin with the door open.

crankwalk (Forum Supporter)
crankwalk (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/30/21 7:35 p.m.
RichardSIA said:

Found a guy parting out a Europa TC race car.
Trying to buy the cage so that I may participate in Track and HC events at more than a Touring pace.
Funds are tight and as always he is on the other side of the country, so shipping would be significant.

Are you trying to buy the cage for the car with the disassembled engine or do you have another Europa?

RichardSIA
RichardSIA Dork
8/30/21 8:25 p.m.

Unfortunately I only have one.
But cages already in the US do not come up for sale very often.
Should be less expensive than buying from the UK.

I will be doing some restoration to another car that is all original.

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