BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/13/24 5:56 p.m.

As mentioned in another thread, my attempt at getting myself an FK-8 Civic Type R went a little sideways. Instead of a sensible hot hatch, I ended up relieving Carmax of an ND2 Miata that was the spec that I should have bought instead of the 2016 Launch Edition I owned for a couple of years (and incidentally sold to Carmax). So what we have here is a 2020 ND2 Club, manual (of course) that had a bit under 23k miles on it when I got my hands on it.

The test drive was funny in an "of course" sense - when I test drove the Type R, I got to the first roundabout near the dealership and thought "ooh, I like this". When I got to the same place in the ND2 - which is only a few hundred yards from the dealership - my thought was "yep, that is the one". So I traded in the SAAB, transferred the plate and set of into the rainstorm that masqueraded for sunset. I have to say, the whole process - which included multiple cars shipped to the local Carmax for test drives and all that - was really smooth, no pressure after test driving multiple vehicles, just a "hey, we want to make sure you find the right car". Big thumbs up there.

Anyway, here it was last weekend when I took it down a couple of my favourite roads to a nice state park:

It has spent its life so far in Texas (in/around Pflugerville) and the underside is cleaner than the topside of the car. I actually checked - the shop that does state inspections and maintenance on my vehicles was happy to let me poke around underneath it on their lift. Cars this clean is not something you see that often around here, but one of the reason I looked at Carmax, because that allowed me to ship cars from dry states.

Handling was rather squirrelly on the way back from the dealership in the pouring rain. After letting 8-9psi out of each tire, it's calmed down a bit but either the alignment is off or it's been aligned to for really quick turn in. You know, like someone may have autocrossed it in the past - it steers a lot more noticeably on the throttle than the ND1, and it's a bit tiring to drive as a result. Fun, but I probably have to get the alignment looked at because the other option it that the wheels made contact with some foreign objects and as a result the alignment is a bit off.

So what's the plan? Right now, it is depressingly stock but I'm trying not to evenly distribute it around the garage quickly, so I'm trying to keep the mods reasonable. Yeah, right. So far the rough plan looks like this:

  • Get rid of the "Texas Tint". Not only does it make the cabin feel more claustrophobic, it also doesn't help with visibility out the sides when it's dark. Not a fan.
  • Sort out the alignment at my preferred race shop
  • Yeet the annoying engine noise tube and plug it
  • Install the FM door bushings
  • Change all the fluids, and as part of that potentially replace the diff cover with the OS Giken one that has 2x the capacity

... then probably take it to an autocross or two because some of the other parts will have more lead time.

Stage 2 is going to be:

  • Get and install the Aurora Designs seat lowering bracket
  • Order a rollbar - very likely a Blackbird Fabworx, which is what I had in my last two NAs and I've always been happy with the quality. Not sure if I want the RZ or the GT3 bar yet
  • Possibly a brake upgrade - this is a "base model" club, so it doesn't have the Brembos. My thoughts are either the FM Stage 2 Little Big Brake kit or fitting OEM Brembos, but I want to check how I get along with the stock brakes first.

We'll see how this plan survives contact with reality.

chandler
chandler MegaDork
4/13/24 6:07 p.m.

Woot!

atli126
atli126 New Reader
4/14/24 10:06 a.m.

Congrats on the nd2!

 

I have alot of mods on mine and I just drove a huge loop the other day and it is a great car for sure. I have a 16 nd1 w a nd2 swap using goodwin 4-2-1 header (max tq) and the aem intake and the roadster sport exhuast (i highly recommend all these) I also have  the car tuned using versatuner it is awesome feels great and makes great power. I used CleaR motorsports in england for remote tuning and Adam is great to work with. 

CleaR Motorsport ND2 Tuning - MX-5 Miata Forum

 

I have the meister r crd coilovers and they are fantastic too. I also recommend some light wheels like the 16x8 rpf1, i went with a 225/50/16 tire. 

I had 17x9 and those were not heavy at 18.5 but the rpf1 at 14.5 even the 4 lb (maybe a few more per wheel w tire weight) difference was amazing. 

Konig Hexaform 17x9 4x100 +45 Matte Black for MX5-ND , 17x9 (good-win-racing.com)

 

I recently swapped on a used open flash center mount exhaust and it is subtle and great also with almost no drone. 

 

Good luck on the car and if your interested check out miatas at the gap. We go every year ands its always fun. 

Miatas at The Gap (gapmiatas.com)

 

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/14/24 11:13 a.m.

And the first parts order just went out to Flyin' Miata.

In reply to atli126 :

I assume you're also running the ND2 ECU? My understanding was that it's not tuneable as people haven't managed to crack the ECU yet, has that changed? Not that I feel the need for more power right now, for me the ND2 is pretty much in the sweet spot of power/weight.

atli126
atli126 New Reader
4/14/24 12:31 p.m.

In reply to BoxheadTim :

nope im running all the nd1 stuff, harness, injectors, ecu all tuned on versatuner 

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/15/24 8:53 a.m.

In reply to atli126 :

Ah, that makes sense. Unfortunately not an option for me.

Nathan JansenvanDoorn
Nathan JansenvanDoorn Dork
4/15/24 9:47 a.m.

I drove a friends nd1 around the block a while ago (4x roundabouts), and I had a similar first impression. It just felt right in every way. I'll get one, one of these days.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/15/24 10:39 a.m.

In reply to Nathan JansenvanDoorn :

IMHO Mazda got this one really right. And I say that as someone who really, really likes NA Miatas.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/19/24 8:22 a.m.

FedEx ninja-delivered the FM order so we only found it this morning when my wife almost tripped over it.

I have to say, nice sticker. Thank you!

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/19/24 10:29 a.m.

That sticker has a GRM connection of sorts. When we were playing with the Bing AI image generator here, I found out it was pretty good at NA and ND Miatas. I showed it to Travis and he did a series of stickers using some output from it after a bunch of post-processing.

Ando
Ando GRM+ Memberand New Reader
4/19/24 9:22 p.m.

 

  • Order a rollbar - very likely a Blackbird Fabworx, which is what I had in my last two NAs and I've always been happy with the quality. Not sure if I want the RZ or the GT3 bar yet

Ando
Ando GRM+ Memberand New Reader
4/19/24 9:25 p.m.

Double post....

I have an NB miata with the roll bar and an ND and for the ND I would be very hesitant to install an aftermarket roll bar due to the amount of engineering that Mazda put sinto the factory system. The picture above is from the factory technical manual released in 2016 and shows how the roll  bar integrates into the side impact crash structure. Given the proximity of your head to the uncovered roll bar and how well engineered the factory roll bar is I'm very hesitant to rip it out and put in some thing that's just not as well integrated.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/19/24 9:45 p.m.

In reply to Ando :

I hear you and I understand where you are coming from, but the existing factory rollbar is not SCCA/NASA legal so unless I want to restrict this car to Autocross use only, I need to replace the factory rollbar. 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/19/24 10:59 p.m.

The factory bars offer absolutely no roll protection. The hoops are unbraced aluminum. I'm pretty sure all the aftermarket bars bolt into the same mounting points (plus some) and are made of stronger stuff than a thin wall alloy extrusion. 

The ND bars are much further from your head than the NB ones are. I'm not sure a head strike is possible without a pre-existing decapitation. 

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/21/24 5:27 p.m.

Probably the only time the ND looks big in comparison to anything:

Yet, the X19 is probably the more practical out of the two.

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