Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/8/22 7:23 p.m.

EDIT: Yes, these pictures are worthy of all the "idiotic pictures on CL" ridicule you can manage, but since the car's currently wedged in a storage unit and only existing pictures are available, BUT it's silly to rely on linked threads for pics... Here we are. Apologies.

I am an idiot and originally posted this in the general GRM subforum. So here it is all over again in Cars For Sale. "Classic Cars For Sale" somehow feels like putting on airs for this car...

In Portland, Oregon (actually in Vancouver, WA in indoor storage at the moment).

There are, I think, two "build" threads because at one point I had a gap so long I forgot I'd started one. I got a little done on this, then there was some mayhem, then we moved and remodeled, and I'm actually back at wiring-and-drywall in the new shop, right about where I was the last time I was about to make progress on this car. But the shop is nicer and someone else is doing the drywall this time. smiley

The first Ranchero intro thread: https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/build-projects-and-project-cars/ransoms-1963-ford-ranchero/61874/page1/

The oops-I-forgot-I-already-had-a-thread thread: https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/build-projects-and-project-cars/ransoms-1963-ranchero-resurrection/124004/page1/

The only real repair that's been completed in my stewardship is replacing the rusty inner fender apron where the battery sat and repairing the cut-up radiator core support. The GRM audience can be divided into groups who will probably consider the job I did "pretty darn good!" or "fine" with a couple of "ugh, now I gotta fix it again." But I think most of the folks in that last camp are too pro to start with this car.

A lot of this summary is probably covered, maybe better, in the other threads linked above.

The worst news: It's got the world's worst rear fender flares. It's like they sawzalled off the outer 3" of a VW Bug and screwed it to the quarter panels then bondoed over the joint.

Related good news: It got sideswiped and that nearly removed one of the terrible flares!

Other related good news: I acquired replacement quarter panels. I cut two off another Ranchero, then discovered that one was already pretty bondotastic, then found out that reproductions are available so got a replacement for that side.

Related bad news: Woody called it way back in the original thread: Outer halves of the inner fenders are not available as reproductions, and what's attached to the car is worse than starting with a sheet of steel.

I have odds and ends like new mirrors, gas pedal, battery mount tray... Rounded up an Explorer rear end and extra short side axle to do the narrow-the-wide-end-and-shazam path to limited slip and rear discs. Oh, and a Scarebird front disc conversion kit! It's on a fresh set of Wheel Vintiques steelies, and with a terrible groan I recognize the zero-mile Kumhos are well on their way to aging out... *sigh* Oo, a freshly rechromed front bumper! And an aluminum ebay radiator.

It's on a wider than original '67 Mustang rear axle. It went with the wagon wheels filling the flares, so you either need to keep it flared (NO! At least not like this...), finish the Explorer axle project, or get a Falcon axle. The engine is a 302 out of an F-100, somewhere in the receipts is the rebuild at a gas station many, many years ago. Trans is a C4 automatic. The car was originally a 6-cyl/manual IIRC, and I think still has the three on the tree shifter in place. Power steering but not brakes, which are still drum all round (I haven't rounded up the parts that go with the Scarebird backets; IIRC S10 calipers and a Maverick master cylinder?) At one point it was running well enough to coax it up and down the driveway, but I've always wanted to change too much to bother trying to get it running well or sorting details. I do think it's close enough that I'm hoping to put everything back together and verify it drives (or at least moves) before it goes away, but that won't be immediate.

Embarrassingly, it looks like I don't really have any good pictures that are more recent. It hasn't really changed apart from removing the smashed flare so you can see the butchery underneath, having the front fenders and hood put loosely back on for moving and storage, and the wheel swap. Right now it's so tightly wedged in the storage unit I can't really get meaningful pictures, so what's in the threads linked above will have to do for now.

I know Falcons are going up in price, but I also know this one needs enough serious bodywork to keep it from being all that valuable. I got it cheap and spent a bit of time and money rounding up parts. I'm hoping there's a GRMer who wants to take it on and thus make me feel good about keeping the price down in exchange for not having to deal with The Public as such. So, uh, how about One Thousand Dollars?

In theory the interior paint on the garage will be done on the 20th, and then I'll probably try to use the open space to build handrails before moving All My Crap in, so I probably won't fetch the Ranchero 'til well into October, though if someone's all wound up we can probably figure out how to move enough stuff out of the way to get it directly from the storage unit.

Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/13/22 12:53 p.m.

Bump because I added pictures, and because I'm hopeful that Indy-Guy and his insistence on living on the other end of the country isn't the whole sad story on moving this along to another GRMer.

jovibuilt
jovibuilt New Reader
9/17/22 12:48 p.m.

Wish you were not on the other side of the US. I'm in NC as I would have already bought this. I have been looking for a Ranchero for a long time. Dang it.

slowbird
slowbird UltraDork
9/17/22 3:02 p.m.

Oh my god. There are so many reasons not to buy it, but I want it anyway. I love Rancheros and have terrible taste so the fender flares wouldn't even turn me away.

I'm in PA though so it would be pretty tricky to get a vehicle here on a trailer within my budget.

Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/17/22 3:25 p.m.

In reply to slowbird :

I may have been wrong to lean so heavily on the "flares must go" thing, though I personally think they're awful, in execution as much as concept. But if it makes you feel any better, it's not like keeping them as-is is an option, either. See the linked threads for the aftermath of the sideswipe on the left flare (mangled and subsequently removed, leaving the hatchet job fender enlargement).

C'mon GRM, I know we don't all live in the east half of the country...

03Panther
03Panther PowerDork
9/17/22 4:01 p.m.

I, to, am too far east. 
I, to, think the flairs are horrid!!!

That said, if I had it, being cheap, I'd probably end up with something about as ugly, but hopefully better executed. 
 

Haul it to the challenge, and "accidentally" let it fall off the trailer, near the FL / AL line. cheeky

Only way I could get it past the Financial Manager angel

Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/17/22 6:32 p.m.

In reply to 03Panther :

Cheap? It comes with all the parts to put it right (save for the need to fabricate inner fenders and the labor to narrow the explorer rear).

EDIT: By which I just mean that if buying panels and narrower rear is the issue w/regard to un-flaring it, it's got those in the accompanying pile of parts.

03Panther
03Panther PowerDork
9/17/22 9:30 p.m.

In reply to Jesse Ransom :

Moot point, me being almost as far away as can be, but I'd prolly cheap out and not narrow a rear, being as cheap as I tend to be, being well below middle class income my entire life. 
I dreamed of a 64/5 ranchero or wagon most of 45 years, but not to restore. Just to beat on. 

CrustyRedXpress
CrustyRedXpress GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/17/22 10:02 p.m.

A thousand bucks for this thing seems like a steal for somebody.

GLWS!

Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/17/22 10:19 p.m.

In reply to 03Panther :

Understood on the mootness of the point, but for the sake of those following along, the only cost in this narrowing is cutting and welding of the housing. It just uses a second short-side axle (included).

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/17/22 10:26 p.m.

In reply to Jesse Ransom :

"We" all love it and want it but "we" are all right coast. 

Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/18/22 11:46 a.m.

In reply to Stampie :

Yeah... My wife actually suggested looking into a silly meeting-halfway road trip in the name of GRM absurdity, but a quick calc suggests even halfway to Indy as the closest would be $1200+ in gas round trip before renting a trailer... It was a fun idea, but not feasible.

CrustyRedXpress
CrustyRedXpress GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/18/22 2:21 p.m.

In reply to Jesse Ransom :

What you need is a retired guy from FL who is kinda crazy, wants to do the challenge, and can afford a one-way plane ticket to your place. 

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/22 2:24 p.m.

In reply to CrustyRedXpress :

You're retiring?

CrustyRedXpress
CrustyRedXpress GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/18/22 10:14 p.m.

In reply to Stampie :

Haha! No, still funemployed and hoping to be back doing...something soon.

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