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914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
9/6/20 10:03 a.m.

NOT EVEN AFFILIATED.  Up on some guy's lawn next to a bastadized Honda (VFR?).  Some engine stuff like the overflow tank is written in German; had me going until I saw the steering wheel.

I would like to talk to the guy about his 1961 Valiant that's been sitting for almost a decade though.

russde
russde GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/6/20 10:05 a.m.

Is that chain holding the engine upright?

Cooter
Cooter UberDork
9/6/20 10:07 a.m.

Crossfire

Cooter
Cooter UberDork
9/6/20 10:08 a.m.

In reply to russde :

Torque strap

BlueInGreen - Jon (Forum Supporter)
BlueInGreen - Jon (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
9/6/20 10:09 a.m.

Someone’s built themselves a Crossfire cart.

edit: seems Cooter beat me to it.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
9/6/20 10:15 a.m.

... with a muffler tube roll bar.

Cooter
Cooter UberDork
9/6/20 10:19 a.m.
914Driver said:

... with a muffler tube roll bar.

Looks thicker wall than that.

 

 

(Mind the gap.)

Steve_Jones
Steve_Jones HalfDork
9/6/20 12:13 p.m.

The stuff in German is because it was a joint MB project, based on the CLK. If you ever see one at a show, just hang around for a few minutes, the owner will tell you "it's pretty much a Mercedes"

I always wondered what the Chrysler Lebaron/Maserati guys bought when they were ready for a new car, now we know. 

John Welsh (Moderate Supporter)
John Welsh (Moderate Supporter) Mod Squad
9/6/20 2:11 p.m.

Am I the only one intrigued that Corvette wheels fit on The Crossfire?

Cooter
Cooter UberDork
9/6/20 2:21 p.m.

"Fit" and "Crossfire" are both relative terms in this example.

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) PowerDork
9/6/20 2:35 p.m.

That was a Honda ST1100 or ST1300.  The VFR engine is transverse. 

Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón)
Brett_Murphy (Forum Patrón) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/6/20 2:36 p.m.
Steve_Jones said:

"it's pretty much a Mercedes"

 

It's pretty much a Mercedes. 

Mercedes Platform
Mercedes Engine
Mercedes Suspension
Mercedes Transmission
Built in Germany

Wasn't this the first vehicle ever sold on the Overstock website, too?

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) PowerDork
9/6/20 2:40 p.m.

In reply to John Welsh (Moderate Supporter) :

My quick internet-based research says there's about 8.5mm of difference in the bolt circle between a Crossfire and a C4 Corvette.  Based on the roll cage I wouldn't be surprised if the builder figured that was close enough.

03Panther
03Panther HalfDork
9/6/20 8:14 p.m.
Cooter said:

"Fit" and "Crossfire" are both relative terms in this example.

smiley yes 

Dave M (Forum Supporter)
Dave M (Forum Supporter) Dork
9/6/20 8:32 p.m.

escort1991
escort1991 Reader
9/6/20 9:45 p.m.

In reply to pres589 (djronnebaum) :

This even the Crossfire rearend or is it a corvette rearend? Bracing in the back looks like holding something. 
 

Crossfires drove nothing like a Chrysler but everything like a Benz. 

Mike (Forum Supporter)
Mike (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/6/20 9:48 p.m.

It's built on the R170 SLK platform, swapping the metal roof for either a hard top or canvas roof. 

drock25too
drock25too GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/7/20 7:15 a.m.

Normally my first question is, "How much?" In this case it's "WHY?"  Not that I'm criticizing, just curious. People often ask why my 68 Suburban has a 455 Buick engine.   

pres589 (djronnebaum)
pres589 (djronnebaum) PowerDork
9/7/20 7:22 a.m.

In reply to escort1991 :

Who knows.  Call him and find out?  I would think there would have to be something done to make those wheels fit on that car, either through an IRS swap or some kind of adapters. 

There's a lot of things going on in these pictures that don't make sense.

03Panther
03Panther HalfDork
9/7/20 8:34 a.m.

What do y’all think that frond suspension on the Honda tadpole came from? I need one about that size. 

Patrick (Forum Supporter)
Patrick (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/7/20 8:44 a.m.

In reply to 03Panther :

Very likely the c4 the wheels on back of the crossfire came from 

03Panther
03Panther HalfDork
9/7/20 9:21 a.m.

Ok, I’m obviously still asleep this am... that makes perfect sense! Good job. 

Brake_L8 (Forum Supporter)
Brake_L8 (Forum Supporter) Reader
9/7/20 9:27 p.m.

The Crossfire is 100% a Mercedes R170 SLK320 assembled by Karmann. That manual trans is the same as a manual TJ Jeep Wrangler of the same model year.

They're... fine. This build may have improved the car.

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 SuperDork
9/7/20 10:01 p.m.

In reply to Brake_L8 (Forum Supporter) :

Indeed it has improved it. Now someone over 5'6" tall can drive it.

Dave M (Forum Supporter)
Dave M (Forum Supporter) Dork
9/8/20 6:15 a.m.
Brake_L8 (Forum Supporter) said:

The Crossfire is 100% a Mercedes R170 SLK320 assembled by Karmann. That manual trans is the same as a manual TJ Jeep Wrangler of the same model year.

They're... fine. This build may have improved the car.

Nothing like a good truck transmission in your sports car!

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