Tim Suddard
Tim Suddard Publisher
2/15/16 6:53 a.m.

I need to put on an old fashioned sports car gymkhana in a few weeks and I am having trouble finding information on what maneuvers are involved. Everything on the internet is about Ken Block and all the modern stuff.

jstein77
jstein77 UltraDork
2/15/16 11:00 a.m.

The gymkhana's of old involved horrible things such as backing through gates and cloverleaf turns. Hard on transmissions and ridiculously difficult to stay on course. There's a good reason that we've moved away from that type of thing; no one but the hard core types thought they were any fun. If I were you, I'd just set it up as a tight low-speed autocross course. People will enjoy it more that way.

jstein77
jstein77 UltraDork
2/15/16 11:02 a.m.

https://youtu.be/VJrEJb0HaeY

This video shows the traditional British definition of Gymkhana:

https://youtu.be/RHgjFPhhzY8

JoeTR6
JoeTR6 Reader
2/15/16 12:49 p.m.
jstein77 wrote: The gymkhana's of old involved horrible things such as backing through gates and cloverleaf turns. Hard on transmissions and ridiculously difficult to stay on course. There's a good reason that we've moved away from that type of thing; no one but the hard core types thought they were any fun. If I were you, I'd just set it up as a tight low-speed autocross course. People will enjoy it more that way.

I agree with this statement. My brother and I did a Gymkana at the 6-Pack Trials sometime in the early 90's. One of the obstacles was pulling into a "garage" with a 90 degree turn, backing out, and continuing the way you came. I'm surprised nobody left a differential on the ground. I'd just lay out an interesting low-speed autocross.

daeman
daeman HalfDork
2/15/16 11:50 p.m.

Motorkhana in australia has a fair bit of similarity to gymkhana, try the cams website, it has a list of layouts that may help.

Cams 2013 test book

Tim Suddard
Tim Suddard Publisher
2/16/16 5:16 a.m.

Thanks everyone. That Motorkhana is just sadistic!

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
2/17/16 2:32 p.m.

I might have an old gymkhana book somewhere at home. I'll look. I know I've run one once, probably at a British car meet. Reverse and complicated maneuvering were involved. Might even have involved a getting out and running around the car or something with a broom.

Here's an old video from the 1964 of a gymkhana. Especially at the end you can see some of the reversing games. The car speeds are just...blisteringly fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27Nkns4Tew

BillBall
BillBall New Reader
2/18/16 6:41 a.m.

Something to consider as a more contemporary alternative to a gymkhana would be a car control clinic. These consist of a series of low speed exercises designed to teach how to handle a car in an emergency. They give the suspension and brakes a good workout but would be appropriate for vintage cars because the driver sets the pace and the speed is low. They are non-competitive events and a coach rides along. They seem to be increasingly common in BMW and Porsche clubs. I signed up for one with the Citrus region PCA as soon as I saw the words "wet skid pad" (see my avatar picture :). It was a total blast and I highly recommend it, even for people who have autocrossed, etc. There is a manual with exercises and course layouts circulating. I had a print copy from the PCA but gave it away and can't seem to find one online anywhere but maybe someone else can find it.

Rupert
Rupert Dork
2/19/16 10:55 a.m.

In reply to jstein77:

Yes,

That looks exactly like a traditional Gymkhana! Only the British are that nuts! And no, I don't believe anyone in North America who's ever done one would choose to do another. And I'd never consider doing one in a car that I cared for again! Maybe a rental from National.

A typical low speed autocross or if you want something different a car control clinic to me are both much better ideas! Though I will admit I was hugely impressed with the guy in the clip driving the 7!!

Tim Suddard
Tim Suddard Publisher
2/22/16 7:18 p.m.

We got it finished today. It is going to be a blast! It is half gymkhana and half track day. I think our tour participants are going to love it. It sure was fun setting it up and it is safe and flows well, but still has some classic gymkhana maneuvers.

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