ArthurDent
ArthurDent Reader
2/18/12 7:39 p.m.

My other swap meet buy. I bought this to stop myself buying a 1:1 scale version. I quite like these even if no one else does.

12 pages - http://oldcarjunkie.wordpress.com/2012/02/18/1985-hyundai-pony-brochure-canadian/

warpedredneck
warpedredneck New Reader
2/18/12 7:47 p.m.

dont tell to many people, but i like them too!

Zomby woof
Zomby woof SuperDork
2/18/12 8:00 p.m.

85 and 86 brochures

My 86 mini stocker.

I have pics of our 87 (factory sponsored) track championship car , backup car, and my dad's Pony stock car somewhere, but I'd have to find them. I loved Ponys, and think I still have a bunch of Pony stuff lying around, including a factory Grant GT wheel with Pony on one of the spokes.

Keith
Keith SuperDork
2/18/12 11:40 p.m.

They were actually a pretty good looking little car to my eyes. The various 80's Hyundais had some British-designed parts underneath too - I think the front uprights on a Stellar and the Pony rear axle are the same as the Cortina parts if memory serves. Good for Locostians.

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
2/19/12 1:38 a.m.

yea.. the Pony was a much better car than the Excel that supplanted it

Jay
Jay SuperDork
2/19/12 7:09 a.m.

I saw one of those in minty-looking condition in southwestern Ontario (aka the Road Salt Capital of the Universe) over the summer. I was shocked.

Fun fact: a Starion 2.6 turbo (G54b) will practically bolt in.

Zomby woof
Zomby woof SuperDork
2/19/12 7:50 a.m.
Keith wrote: They were actually a pretty good looking little car to my eyes. The various 80's Hyundais had some British-designed parts underneath too - I think the front uprights on a Stellar and the Pony rear axle are the same as the Cortina parts if memory serves. Good for Locostians.

The Pony is a 4 door Plymouth (Mitsubishi) Arrow. Just about everything is a direct bolt on. I used 3.55 gears in the race cars from a 2.0 Arrow. The 1.6 motors are very stout, and capable of some pretty decent power for a small 2V motor.

ArthurDent
ArthurDent Reader
2/19/12 10:32 a.m.

The Pony story is odd. Mechanically it is a Mitsubishi Colt, chassis is heavily inspired by a the Morris Marina of all things and the rear axle is a Ford Cortina MkII. Not the same as the Stellar which is Ford Cortina MkIV re-body.

The stellar has rack and pinion steering, SLA front suspension and coil springs a the rear. The Pony has recirculating ball steering, strut front suspension and leaf springs at the rear. The Stellar is a good deal wider.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk Dork
2/19/12 10:50 a.m.

In reply to Zomby woof:

Which track did you run that Pony at?

Turboeric
Turboeric New Reader
2/19/12 11:03 a.m.

When Ponys first appeared in Canada in the 80s, a woman I worked with bought one. Within 3 years it was billowing oil smoke and rusting through. So she traded it in on an Excel. Frying pan. Meet fire.

Zomby woof
Zomby woof SuperDork
2/19/12 11:38 a.m.

The Pony was a god car if you looked after it. It wasn't if you didn't.

http://www.ohswekenspeedway.com/ is 10 minutes away, so that's my home track, but I also ran Merrittville, Humberstone, Flamboro and Varney.

ArthurDent
ArthurDent Reader
2/19/12 1:27 p.m.

I'd say the Pony was better than the Excel. Definitely more of a 70s car than a 80s one but they seem to last better than the Excel.

Zomby woof
Zomby woof SuperDork
2/19/12 4:15 p.m.
ArthurDent wrote: The Pony story is odd. Mechanically it is a Mitsubishi Colt, chassis is heavily inspired by a the Morris Marina of all things and the rear axle is a Ford Cortina MkII. Not the same as the Stellar which is Ford Cortina MkIV re-body.

Mitsubishi used Cortina rear ends in the Colt/Arrow? Weren't the Marina and Colt/Arrow current at the same time?

ArthurDent
ArthurDent Reader
2/19/12 5:42 p.m.

I dunno but I used a Pony axle in a Locost and it was identical to the "book" axle (Escort MkII). Hyundai built the Cortina under license earlier.

They hired away most of the Marina design team before being the Pony.

Zomby woof
Zomby woof SuperDork
2/19/12 5:57 p.m.

The Pony and Arrow were Identical in practically every dimension, and most parts, including steering, suspension, motors, trans and rear ends were interchangeable. I was not aware of any relationship to the British cars. I had heard the Stellar/Cortina stories before, but I don't know a lot about the Stellars, other than the 87 (known as the Stellar II ) being completely different from the earlier ones. The motors, trans, and diffs in the early Stellars were interchangeable with the Pony and Arrow. If I recall, the Stellar II diffs. were as well, and had a 3.58-1 gear, which was the final drive we used.

Pony's handled really well, and the 1.6 motors were typical Mitsubishi, and had a lot of potential. I didn't find out until after I started building mine, while doing research in the pre internet days, that the Arrow was a popular, and very capable mini stock, and mini mod back in the 70's.

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
2/19/12 7:41 p.m.

And the Hyundai could be had as a pickup.. something Hyundai has never offered in the US

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