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flatlander937
flatlander937 HalfDork
1/15/21 11:22 a.m.
Toyman01 (Moderately Supportive Dude) said:

You might consider picking up a couple of bead clamps. They are cheap and they may work better than the rag.
 

 

You haven't had fun until you have done a set of rubber bands on 20" wheels. 

 

I have one plus three of the basic insert type drop center tools. They're all visible hanging on the wall while I'm waiting the tire up in the video.

The clip on ones are just ok. They still collapse and tilt inwards allowing the tire to pop above the drop center on these tires. I actually tried it on the first tire I did. 

The small ones come in handy when dismounting pinched fitments like this, use pry bar and insert them at a few spots around the wheel so when prying upwards the opposite side goes into the drop center.

Toyman01 (Moderately Supportive Dude)
Toyman01 (Moderately Supportive Dude) MegaDork
1/15/21 11:29 a.m.

In reply to flatlander937 :

Got ya, I've never used the things though I've seen others use them. The assist arms make all of that unnecessary. 

accordionfolder
accordionfolder SuperDork
7/21/21 10:05 a.m.

I sold a miata so I .. naturally ... got a tire machine/balance combo from Derek Weaver based on this thread. 

Do you need any air-dryer system coming from the compressor for these machines? I didn't find a manual on the website. 

Did you have any problems situating them/moving them into the garage once they were unloaded from the truck? 

I'm excited! I sprung for the one with the crazy triple arm thing ... I figured buy once, cry once.

Toyman01 + Sized and
Toyman01 + Sized and MegaDork
7/21/21 12:06 p.m.

In reply to accordionfolder :

My machine came with a moisture separator mounted on air inlet. 

The machine is pretty heavy. I've moved mine a couple of times as the shop has gotten rearranged. It's doable, but you might want to call a friend or two. 

accordionfolder
accordionfolder SuperDork
7/21/21 12:36 p.m.

In reply to Toyman01 + Sized and :

Thanks for the info!

Can you remember if while crated are they something that I could move with a moving dolly? 

james Kepford
james Kepford GRM+ Memberand New Reader
7/21/21 6:25 p.m.

In reply to accordionfolder :

I have the tire machine setting on furniture pads, it make moving around a lot easer.

Toyman01 + Sized and
Toyman01 + Sized and MegaDork
7/21/21 6:39 p.m.

In reply to accordionfolder :

Not really. The freight company was nice enough to roll mine around and in the shop with his pallet jack.

From there you can slide it with a hand truck.

flatlander937
flatlander937 HalfDork
7/21/21 9:38 p.m.

In reply to accordionfolder :

They're pretty darn heavy and awkward. The mounting machine in particular sucks to move. The guy unloaded the crate directly into the garage for me.

 

It has a drier mounted to the machine. Empty it about 2x as much as you fill the oil container when it's real humid and gross outside.

accordionfolder
accordionfolder SuperDork
8/12/21 12:34 p.m.

Lof8 - Andy
Lof8 - Andy GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/12/21 3:16 p.m.

I just ordered some tire equipment a few days ago.  This thread made me happy I did.

Toyman01 + Sized and
Toyman01 + Sized and MegaDork
8/12/21 5:06 p.m.

I mounted and balanced my 80th set last week. They are very nice to have on hand. 

accordionfolder
accordionfolder SuperDork
8/13/21 5:22 p.m.

Really glad I got the assist arm already, turns out 13x8 wheels are a bear

New York Nick
New York Nick GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/4/21 6:29 p.m.

I think this is the right place for this question. I have a friend that is looking at a Coats machine. Does the hive have any feedback on this thing?

 

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UltraDork
11/4/21 10:25 p.m.

In reply to New York Nick :

That style Coates uses a pin to anchor the wheel rotationally. This can damage a stud hole, and always damages 4 spokes on a wire wheel of the spline drive knock on variety. Big no if you work on classic sports cars.

New York Nick
New York Nick GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/5/21 8:44 a.m.

In reply to TurnerX19 :

Thanks for the feedback on that. Does the stud hole damage happen if the tire is tight (causing a lot of torque) or is it more of a machine maintenance deal?

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UltraDork
11/5/21 10:46 a.m.

In reply to New York Nick :

Tight tire deal. The pin has some gentle upward pressure to get it to seat in the stud hole. Not enough upward pressure to kep it vertical/tight in the hole if the wheel really wants to rotate.

New York Nick
New York Nick GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/5/21 10:52 a.m.

In reply to TurnerX19 :

ok thanks again.

 

jharry3
jharry3 GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/5/21 11:02 a.m.

You may call that a "cheap" tire changing machine but I would have thought I was in heaven if I  had that one when I changed tires in the 70's at my high school summer job.   Our machine had an air solenoid to break down the beads then a big steel bar for dismounting and remounting that  used muscle power to operate.   One thing about that manual machine was good.  After a summer of physical labor changing tires, loading tires, stacking tires in racks,etc.,  the bullies at school quickly realized I was way stronger than I looked and left me alone.

New York Nick
New York Nick GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
11/5/21 11:07 a.m.

I used to use a tire machine at my godfathers garage that the tire sat at ~45 deg angle. I don't remember the brand, it was old enough that it had been repainted. You would literally wrestle tires off of that thing, and this was in the day when 18" tires were big so the tires were super easy by today's standards. He finally bought a nice snap on machine and then thing was so easy to use I couldn't believe it.

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