iceracer
iceracer UltimaDork
9/17/18 6:41 p.m.

With my FiST.   At the Keene Hill Climb reunion we are allowed to do spirited runs up the hill.   I did three starts. all I got was a chirp then just go.  Modern electronic controls are interesting.

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/17/18 6:49 p.m.

Might want to talk to volvoclearinghouse's neighbors laugh

iceracer
iceracer UltimaDork
9/17/18 6:55 p.m.

Didn't think to turn off the TC.

Oh well, it saved on tire wear.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
9/17/18 8:11 p.m.

1st and 2nd are boost-limited with the stock tune. Chuck keeps going on about mountune and his cobb port, makes me chuckle every time he says cobb port. I will say that thing is fast now, and he can spin the tires in 2nd while already moving at a good clip.

Robbie
Robbie PowerDork
9/17/18 10:12 p.m.

Very worrying when you see a thread posted by iceracer saying burnouts aren't possible.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/18 7:04 a.m.

for s&Gs I turned off the TC on my 9-3 turbo. That was fun. In the rain it got really fun.

TheRX7Project
TheRX7Project Reader
9/18/18 7:29 a.m.

In reply to iceracer :

Not sure about the FiST, but on my Sonic, even "turning off" the TC keeps a nanny mode on and only allows a minimal amount of spin. I have to pull the fuse.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/18 7:56 a.m.

Disable Traction Control completely, then drop the clutch at 6000 rpm, then shift to second and then 3rd to get maximum boost for epic burnouts.  (Im kidding, don't do that) 

dps214
dps214 New Reader
9/18/18 8:29 a.m.

I'm pretty sure you can still do a burnout with traction control all the way on if you try hard enough. I've been using "sport mode" (single press of the button) a lot recently mostly because it's way easier than holding the button forever to turn it all the way off. I think it's pretty much perfect for street use, it allows a surprising amount of wheelspin and slip angle but will still step in if things get way out of shape. Like basically no limits on wheelspin and an amount of slip angle where you question for a second if it's going to spin, and then the TC kicks in...granted I'm on very different wheels and tires than stock which probably confuses the system somewhat.

akylekoz
akylekoz Dork
9/18/18 9:21 a.m.

If I turn off the DSC on my Pathfinder it will burn a tire until the nanny kicks back it.  Total B.S. how an I going to have fun in the snow, this could cause an unsafe situation with my snow driving style.  What will happen when I'm starting a nice drift and then the stability control kicks in at 20 mph.  I'll never get up to full drifting speed.

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man UltraDork
9/18/18 9:33 a.m.
akylekoz said:

If I turn off the DSC on my Pathfinder it will burn a tire until the nanny kicks back it.  Total B.S. how an I going to have fun in the snow, this could cause an unsafe situation with my snow driving style.  What will happen when I'm starting a nice drift and then the stability control kicks in at 20 mph.  I'll never get up to full drifting speed.

Find the yaw sensor and put an SPST switch on the power wire, usually an orange wire on many Nissans. Full VDC off without disabling the ABS

Daylan C
Daylan C SuperDork
9/18/18 9:55 a.m.

Traction control on a 2013 Chevy 1500 with snow tires on it was basically burn out control from my experience. Keep it on the floor and the light flickers will the tires are still spinning.

wspohn
wspohn Dork
9/18/18 10:45 a.m.

What is this fascination with burning rubber?  You don't WANT to be able to burn rubber!  You want to have tires sticky enough to hook up and propel you forward, not have you sitting there looking like an Autumn leaf fire.

Never understood why the peons focus on the warm up of tires in drag racing rather than the actual take off.

I've seen comparisons on a road course of cars running nanny controls in comp mode or whatever, vs. no controls at all.  Seems that a skilled driver can often better times over a nanny controlled car, though at more risk of getting out of control.  What is the situation in drag racing? What do the presence or absence of controls do to times?

volvoclearinghouse
volvoclearinghouse UberDork
9/18/18 10:53 a.m.

In reply to thatsnowinnebago :

Funny, i was just coming here to post something along those lines.

Can't do a burnout?  berkeleying good.  devil

iceracer
iceracer UltimaDork
9/18/18 6:31 p.m.

Not really complaining.  The acceleration was good.   We weren't being timed, just for fun.

 The SE with the dsg wouln't spin the wheels unless on snow.

 TheZX2SR would spin the A7's a bit.  On asphalt

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/18/18 7:52 p.m.

Burnouts are fun!!!  

akylekoz
akylekoz Dork
9/19/18 7:30 a.m.

My Mustang just spins in first with cold tires, if I warm them up (good burnout) there is acceleration involved and they spin less.  I couldn't imagine trying to launch this car hard without a good smoke screen first.  This will get better once the torque arm is installed, lowering some cars does bad things to the suspension.

When on an open track it takes a couple of laps before the tires start to stick its no different.

TheRX7Project
TheRX7Project Reader
9/19/18 7:49 a.m.

In reply to volvoclearinghouse :

Eh, if you can't spin the tires, you need more power. If you can, you need stickier tires.

Not to mention TCS takes away significantly more power than is necessary to stop tire spin. When I autocrossed my Sonic, I would notice several seconds difference between running with full TCS, nanny mode, and the fuse pulled.

Grtechguy
Grtechguy MegaDork
9/19/18 8:18 a.m.
akylekoz
akylekoz Dork
9/19/18 1:32 p.m.

In reply to G_Body_Man :

I'm only concerned about the term usually and many in your reply.  It is located at the rear of the center console, a great location for the switch.

It I cut the wrong wire will it explode?

G_Body_Man
G_Body_Man UltraDork
9/20/18 9:22 a.m.
akylekoz said:

In reply to G_Body_Man :

I'm only concerned about the term usually and many in your reply.  It is located at the rear of the center console, a great location for the switch.

It I cut the wrong wire will it explode?

I know on G35s, 350Zs and Frontiers it's a yellowy orange wire (vague coloring, I know). If you just wanna try it out without VDC you can simply yank the connector off the yaw sensor. It'll throw the VDC and Slip lights up on the dash.

SaltyDog
SaltyDog HalfDork
9/20/18 12:49 p.m.
wspohn
wspohn Dork
9/20/18 7:29 p.m.
SaltyDog said:

 

Problem Solved!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C98HYD0xgew

Hilarious!

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