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Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
9/7/16 4:49 p.m.

Due to extreme scope creep, we're looking at painting the spirit. Inside,outside, topside and bottomside.

First, budget: does things like tape and sandpaper count? What all materials count?

Secind: Toyman did the bus with a water sand blaster. This sounds perfect for getting old paint and surface rust off this thing before seam welding and rust repair. Why is it not? Would it warp body panels? Is there a downside that I'm not thinking of?

Lastly, a teammate manages a paint store. He can get us a gallon of industrial enamel for $1. Is that challenge legal?

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
9/7/16 4:55 p.m.

If it's on the car when it appears at the Challenge, it counts. I'd say that means tape, sandpaper, and solvent do not count. Bondo and paint do.

$1 paint is legal if it is a deal that is available to the general public. If it is the "good buddy deal", then no.

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/7/16 5:01 p.m.

Paintforcars.com has paint from 50$. It's where I got the stuff for my miata, if you're looking for cheap cheap

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
9/7/16 5:01 p.m.

I don't know if it's available to general public. It's mistint industrial enamel that he can color matching. I'll ask him specifically what it would go out the door for.

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand UberDork
9/7/16 5:08 p.m.

Regarding cheap and easy prep, a soda blaster can do a pretty fantastic job.

GTXVette
GTXVette Reader
9/7/16 8:14 p.m.

25 bucks a gal. at tractor supply.a recipt is worth plenty. not like I would cheat.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
9/7/16 8:20 p.m.

The tractor Supply stuff was the original plan, until dustin offered.

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
9/7/16 8:21 p.m.

Mine is from paintforcars.com. Ordered paint for multiple vehicles and a ton of supplies at the same time to keep shipping per gallon very low.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
9/7/16 8:42 p.m.

What kind of primer does the paintforcars.com paint need?

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/7/16 9:00 p.m.

In reply to Dusterbd13:

I used the cheapest sprayable stuff napa had for my acrylic. I think they called for an epoxy primer on the can. I can check when the sun comes out.

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/7/16 11:55 p.m.

"Synthetic Non sanding primer sealer"

The cheapest "concentrate" primer from Napa worked pretty well, I think. It was sealing primer, but sandable? Or mayve I just sanded it for no reason. Either way the paint has stayed on for almost 3 months so far.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
9/8/16 6:29 a.m.

Thanks RevRico. We're still a little bit away from paint, but I think we should be able to make it fit in the budget. With real paint even!

They have a copper color that's pretty close to factory.

PseudoSport
PseudoSport Dork
9/8/16 8:48 a.m.

I've used rustoleum and tractor paint on previous challenge cars. Its cheap and will look ok for a little while but it fades quickly and stains easy from bugs, leaves, and water marks. It will also take more effort to keep looking nice unless you have a garage.

I've switched to using cheap single stage urethane from Summit Racing, Eastwood, Kirker, etc and have had much better luck with it holding up. If its your first paint job stick with non metallic paint. Also lighter colors will hide questionable body work better.

Paint, primer, activator, and wax were about $130 for my first challenge car. It was a big budget hit but I planed to use the car after the challenge.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
9/8/16 8:55 a.m.

This is destined for a hard life after the challenge. So quality paint is necessary. Depending on price, may wait. But....

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand UberDork
9/8/16 9:44 a.m.

In reply to Dusterbd13:

Concourse is 1/3rd of the event. $150 on a performance modification would be a slam dunk no brainer budget hit. Just some food for thought.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/8/16 10:48 a.m.
captdownshift wrote: In reply to Dusterbd13: Concourse is 1/3rd of the event. $150 on a performance modification would be a slam dunk no brainer budget hit. Just some food for thought.

Concourse is only 20% of competition. Max 25 points for parc expose, 50 for autoX and 50 for drag race (or 40% for each track event).

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand UberDork
9/8/16 10:53 a.m.

In reply to Ovid_and_Flem:

Excellent point, it should still warrant 50% of the attention that brakes and suspension do at that ratio though :)

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/8/16 11:02 a.m.
captdownshift wrote: In reply to Ovid_and_Flem: Excellent point, it should still warrant 50% of the attention that brakes and suspension do at that ratio though :)

No matter to us. We're going for vintage sinkhole survivor patina....in all 3 phases of competition! LOL

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/8/16 11:03 a.m.

In reply to Ovid_and_Flem:

Looks like someone is studying up on the rules. I noticed something this year that I hadn't thought of before.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/8/16 11:15 a.m.
Stampie wrote: In reply to Ovid_and_Flem: Looks like someone is studying up on the rules. I noticed something this year that I hadn't thought of before.

We noticed that, too!

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
9/8/16 11:27 a.m.

What did you guys notice? Cause I'm missing something...

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
9/8/16 11:36 a.m.
Dusterbd13 wrote: What did you guys notice? Cause I'm missing something...

Wow....you didn't see it?

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
9/8/16 11:47 a.m.

Nope. Not a clue. I'm not very good at reading comprehension.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/8/16 11:52 a.m.

In reply to Dusterbd13:

Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 PowerDork
9/8/16 11:56 a.m.

Um.....

I'm definitely ignorant of what you are talking about.

But not blissful if I'm leaving something on the table.

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