Serious enthusiasts know that handling is where it’s at. The best driveline in the galaxy is worthless if it’s surrounded by mushy shocks, cheese ball tires and a wonky alignment. Building better performance through a solid foundation has been our Prime Directive for more than two decades. It’s part of the reason why we get out of bed every morning. …

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ROARR
ROARR
1/8/19 2:04 p.m.

Very good article! Did the stiffer rear bar create wheel lift on hard cornering? the question for me is: how much rear bar to use to prevent front inner wheel spin when powering through a corner.

 

Milburn Emery
Milburn Emery New Reader
11/23/19 8:08 a.m.

Yah. Evo's suffer the same. Bigger rear bar works but without stiffer springs, esp in the front, you will start to get inside front lift, followed by pushing.  And if you use only a big bar on the rear, you will lift the inside rear tripoding. That will also cause understeer  at some point as the AWD system needs all four on the ground to work well and get the car to rotate properly.  Really need to look at the whole package

 

My .02c :-)

mykola_m3
mykola_m3 New Reader
7/2/20 4:48 p.m.

So conclusion is that not every car can deliver fun and you should go for at least RWD on the first place

It is frustrating that m̶o̶s̶t̶ less of the seconds came from upgrading the wheels overall...) suspension did not help much...or may be car delivered more because suspension were modified before, ohh...those tests)) Still - you are doing great job

hunter47
hunter47 New Reader
7/1/21 9:46 a.m.

GRM coming in clutch with new-to-me articles just in time! First it was the datalogging article, and now it's this handling one. For the same model car, too (ok a couple years older but still)! 

Between this, my thread about improving times, and the datalogging thread, it looks like I will need to run a much lower front tire pressure as I overdrove them which caused understeer and destruction. 

livinon2wheels
livinon2wheels GRM+ Memberand New Reader
7/24/22 1:48 p.m.

I'm surprised you guys didnt go for coilovers for the ride height adjustability and of course the shock valving, having tried doing it both ways on my two subaru wagons, I have to say the coil overs ride and handle better than the bilstein spec b package I used on the other car. I'd love to see a comparison between the bilsteins and koni setup to see which is better.

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