...And it's over $4k cheaper than a base Miata!
...And it's over $4k cheaper than a base Miata!
Is that in your northern funny munny? Or $USD?
This could be a major problem. Undercut ND miata pricing enough to affect sales volume and the development and future of a NE generation becomes seriously in jeopardy.
In reply to Brian:
USD real monies!
Given Fiats' issues, as discussed in a previous thread, I'm not surprised they'd try to price it lower. Even though I know what the 124 really is, I still have a mental block when it comes to the thought of having a Fiat for a DD...or even a weekend toy that I'd spend good cash on. Right or wrong, my mental image of Fiat is that if I slapped a Fiat badge on a Corolla it would magically start to rust, the radio would stop working and it starts to leak oil...from the gas tank.
Doesn't the Fiat 124 Spider use a smaller engine? That would explain price difference.
In reply to wlkelley3:
It uses the 1.4 turbo from the 500 Abarth, so it's actually more powerful and more tuneable than an ND.
captdownshift wrote: This could be a major problem. Undercut ND miata pricing enough to affect sales volume and the development and future of a NE generation becomes seriously in jeopardy.
And with that there is no reason for the Miata to exist anymore, better looking, better sounding and cheaper 
Smaller engine, weak player in the market, sketchy future ... and most buyers won't know it's really a miata chassis. I doubt they will make Mazda sweat even a little.
Although... my palms are a little sweaty just now.
$20k? Wow. That's kind of a big deal.
So I just read through the site. It looks like the Classica is the cheap one. Cloth seats, 16 inch wheels. It says electronic locking diff, is this real LSD or just brake silliness? This is a seriously exciting car for $20k.
In reply to mazdeuce:
Throw in some incentives and some haggling, and you could probably get one in a year for below $20k before tax. 
There may have been an error on the site. Right now, it shows the 124 price as "Coming Summer 2016", and the MSRP of the 500c, Abarth and 500L is $00,000.
$20k is cheap. Young adult who wants to autocross cheap.
Keith Tanner wrote: There may have been an error on the site. Right now, it shows the 124 price as "Coming Summer 2016", and the MSRP of the 500c, Abarth and 500L is $00,000.
Dammit. 
Keith Tanner wrote: There may have been an error on the site. Right now, it shows the 124 price as "Coming Summer 2016", and the MSRP of the 500c, Abarth and 500L is $00,000.
I don't think it was an error per se, as pricing for the other cars was accurate. I think it got leaked.
Update: It appears to be an error, as the price for it and the 500C are the same. Damn.
captdownshift wrote: This could be a major problem. Undercut ND miata pricing enough to affect sales volume and the development and future of a NE generation becomes seriously in jeopardy.
I'm going to make an assumption that Mazda stands to profit somehow from this relationship. If that's true, then every sale of a 124 is good for Mazda's bottom line.
So....the questionable quality issues have begun!
G_Body_Man wrote: Update: It appears to be an error, as the price for it and the 500C are the same. Damn.
They're still mucking with it. I've still got summer and the C Abarth and L have gone to zero. I'm crossing my fingers. Someone at Fiat is messing up this morning.
Edit: I'm back to summer and the rest of the prices look normal. I was briefly soooooooo hopeful.
trucke wrote: So....the questionable quality issues have begun!
Wiki states it's being built on the same line as the Miata in Hiroshima
RossD wrote:trucke wrote: So....the questionable quality issues have begun!Wiki states it's being built on the same line as the Miata in Hiroshima
I would just question the FCA drivetrain.
captdownshift wrote: This could be a major problem. Undercut ND miata pricing enough to affect sales volume and the development and future of a NE generation becomes seriously in jeopardy.
Theoretically, sure. But really don't think the Miata pays for itself, anyway. Way to small a margin. If Fiat sells 50% more, that's only 5000 cars. Which has no impact on development dollars.
Nick (LUCAS) Comstock wrote:captdownshift wrote: This could be a major problem. Undercut ND miata pricing enough to affect sales volume and the development and future of a NE generation becomes seriously in jeopardy.And with that there is no reason for the Miata to exist anymore, better looking, better sounding and cheaper
I can't agree with you there. I find the ND to be much better looking, as I find the Fiat ungainly. It looks like it was thrown together with elements cobbled together to look like the original-- it's not ugly, but I find the ND much more original and attractive.
I do love the way that engine sounds in the Abarth 500, and who can complain about a lower price?! Bring it on Fiat!
Brian wrote:RossD wrote:I would just question the FCA drivetrain.trucke wrote: So....the questionable quality issues have begun!Wiki states it's being built on the same line as the Miata in Hiroshima
The fwiw 1.4L should easily outlast a Miata engine, a 12 valve SOHC engine with an iron block and stout rotating assembly kind of remind you of that pesky Mazda engine that displaced .8L more and otherwise was unkillable.
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