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Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson Reader
12/17/09 8:28 a.m.
John Brown wrote: There are a few of us that have secret plans for ZX2s. Mine would be more along the line of a ZX2.5

Is that an engineless Probe I see in your back yard :)

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/17/09 8:29 a.m.

That's the ticket.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
12/17/09 9:49 a.m.

Honestly... i don't see an advantage of these things over a 2nd gen Escort GT, other than it's newer...

Still fairly cool though.

akamcfly
akamcfly Reader
12/17/09 10:10 a.m.
93celicaGT2 wrote: Honestly... i don't see an advantage of these things over a 2nd gen Escort GT, other than it's newer... Still fairly cool though.

I agree with you and I own one.

My next door neighbor has a white 91 EGT. If it was a manual trans I'd covet it.

joey48442
joey48442 SuperDork
12/17/09 10:57 a.m.
93celicaGT2 wrote: Honestly... i don't see an advantage of these things over a 2nd gen Escort GT, other than it's newer... Still fairly cool though.

I've spent quite a bit of time in escorts, and the third gen is just a nice place to spend time. Right now I have a 164000 mile rust free 1994 wagon, that was treated pretty well, and a rusty, pizza delivery beat to heck 1997 wagon. Both optioned similarly, both 5 speeds. The 1997 is just a lot nicer, quieter on the road. Even the hvac fan is much quieter. The interior panels are luxurious, compared to the 1994. It's a heckova alot quicker, even being heavier. I'd love a second gen gt, but all the second gens around here seem to be rotting away. My 1994 with a probe drivetrain would be awesomer though...

Joey

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
12/17/09 12:52 p.m.
joey48442 wrote:
93celicaGT2 wrote: Honestly... i don't see an advantage of these things over a 2nd gen Escort GT, other than it's newer... Still fairly cool though.
I've spent quite a bit of time in escorts, and the third gen is just a nice place to spend time. Right now I have a 164000 mile rust free 1994 wagon, that was treated pretty well, and a rusty, pizza delivery beat to heck 1997 wagon. Both optioned similarly, both 5 speeds. The 1997 is just a lot nicer, quieter on the road. Even the hvac fan is much quieter. The interior panels are luxurious, compared to the 1994. It's a heckova alot quicker, even being heavier. I'd love a second gen gt, but all the second gens around here seem to be rotting away. My 1994 with a probe drivetrain would be awesomer though... Joey

The 3rd gen is faster? I guess that 10% that the S/R got must have made a bigger difference than i thought. I've driven a 3rd gen ZX2, and it didn't feel near as quick as my EGT.

If you like your 94 with a Probe drivetrain, stay tuned.

My BP burns oil and has like 270k miles on it. I'm going to tear it out before it explodes and dump a KLZE in it.

joey48442
joey48442 SuperDork
12/18/09 1:42 a.m.

The third gen wagon is (or at least feels) alot quicker than a second gen wagon. The gt / zx2... I don't know about that.

Joey

Capt Slow
Capt Slow HalfDork
12/18/09 2:15 a.m.
DougieSTL said: Once again, as a long time forum member (elsewhere), I feel like a total n00b for resurrecting a dead thread here. Please forgive me lol.

You will find this forum to be a bit different than most. Members here won't:

Crucify you for brining up old threads (provided they are cool like this one)

or

Draw and quarter you for not searching first

or

Hang you for reposting something (unless its a ken block video)

Welcome to the community

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/18/09 7:34 a.m.

And every one of us will watch that Ken Block video again if it is posted.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
12/18/09 9:35 a.m.
joey48442 wrote: The third gen wagon is (or at least feels) alot quicker than a second gen wagon. The gt / zx2... I don't know about that. Joey

Oh. Yeah. Because it IS a lot quicker. The 1.9 in the 2nd gens is a major turd. 88hp to the crank when new FTW!

iceracer
iceracer HalfDork
12/18/09 10:05 a.m.

I have owned an EGT and now a ZX2SR. Both cars have a lot of similarity under the skin. Many ZX2 enthusiasts hunt the jy's for the rear discs from the EGT. The ZX2 seems to have more after market than the EGT. Maybe because it is newer.

joey48442
joey48442 SuperDork
12/18/09 4:20 p.m.
93celicaGT2 wrote:
joey48442 wrote: The third gen wagon is (or at least feels) alot quicker than a second gen wagon. The gt / zx2... I don't know about that. Joey
Oh. Yeah. Because it IS a lot quicker. The 1.9 in the 2nd gens is a major turd. 88hp to the crank when new FTW!

Yeah, 88hp of fury! But it does ok. I think the 2.0 is 110. The 1.9 gets me out into traffic, and cam maintan an extra-freeway speed, so it works.

Joey

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
12/21/09 7:58 p.m.
jj wrote: I ran a 15.4 1/4 in mine. I also lost a ghetto roll-on freeway race because of the 105 mph limiter. PS- I hate ghetto roll-on freeway races and am lame for attempting it.

In a 3rd gen? I'm really impressed by that, actually....

But the limiter... well, score one for the EGT on that. I know for a fact it'll go faster than 105. Not sure HOW i know, but i do. Just sayin'.

Vigo
Vigo New Reader
12/21/09 8:14 p.m.
PS- I hate ghetto roll-on freeway races and am lame for attempting it.

Is that the one where you measure power instead of traction? Why do you hate highway races? Does your vision blur out like fast-and-furious if you race over 70 mph?

iceracer
iceracer HalfDork
12/22/09 9:03 a.m.

I recently had a young fellow trying to impress his girl friend and goad me into a race on th Northway. I just ignored him. He was driving a VW Cabriolet, not old not new. Anyway my frameless windows tend to leave the seals at 124 mph. The troopers were busy also.

egnorant
egnorant Dork
12/22/09 9:51 a.m.

I have been looking for a zx2 myself..of course, finding an s/r would be a bonus. But the 88hp of fury is a bit off! A fully loaded 95 got 71hp to the wheels while my 91 Pony got 99hp to the wheels. Both were stock except for a K&N and synthetic in the 95. Of course the pony does not have air or power steering and was at 280,000 miles. I was a bit surprised1

A friends zx4 was....well..civilized.

Bruce

joey48442
joey48442 SuperDork
12/22/09 10:22 a.m.
egnorant wrote: I have been looking for a zx2 myself..of course, finding an s/r would be a bonus. But the 88hp of fury is a bit off! A fully loaded 95 got 71hp to the wheels while my 91 Pony got 99hp to the wheels. Both were stock except for a K&N and synthetic in the 95. Of course the pony does not have air or power steering and was at 280,000 miles. I was a bit surprised1 A friends zx4 was....well..civilized. Bruce

the 88 hp number is what is usually quoted on websites and such. Who knows if it is valid...

Joey

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
12/22/09 1:49 p.m.
egnorant wrote: I have been looking for a zx2 myself..of course, finding an s/r would be a bonus. But the 88hp of fury is a bit off! A fully loaded 95 got 71hp to the wheels while my 91 Pony got 99hp to the wheels. Both were stock except for a K&N and synthetic in the 95. Of course the pony does not have air or power steering and was at 280,000 miles. I was a bit surprised1 A friends zx4 was....well..civilized. Bruce

I would expect the 71whp... i would not expect the 99whp out of the same motor....

BigDanSubaru
BigDanSubaru
1/7/10 8:13 a.m.

berkeley ken block he is a dumb selfish trader and made a big mistake joining those loosers at ford!

iceracer
iceracer HalfDork
1/7/10 8:24 a.m.

That 88 or what ever horsepower does not apply to the SR. The stock ZX2 is rated 130 hp and the SR,with a reprogramed ECU is rated at 143. App 10 more are easily obtainable with bolt ons.

GlennS
GlennS Dork
1/7/10 9:26 a.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
John Brown wrote: There are a few of us that have secret plans for ZX2s. Mine would be more along the line of a ZX2.5
Is that an engineless Probe I see in your back yard :)

Would a KL03 powered escort really be an upgrade over just having a running probe??? My friend had a probe back in the day and that car was a hoot. Especialy once he blew the engine and swapped in a KLZE.

Racer1ab
Racer1ab Reader
1/7/10 9:34 a.m.
BigDanSubaru wrote: berkeley ken block he is a dumb selfish trader and made a big mistake joining those loosers at ford!

Your post is ironical.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/7/10 10:03 a.m.
GlennS wrote:
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
John Brown wrote: There are a few of us that have secret plans for ZX2s. Mine would be more along the line of a ZX2.5
Is that an engineless Probe I see in your back yard :)
Would a KL03 powered escort really be an upgrade over just having a running probe??? My friend had a probe back in the day and that car was a hoot. Especialy once he blew the engine and swapped in a KLZE.

Save for the weight, no. I just REALLY like doing more work than necessary.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
1/7/10 11:15 a.m.
John Brown wrote:
GlennS wrote:
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
John Brown wrote: There are a few of us that have secret plans for ZX2s. Mine would be more along the line of a ZX2.5
Is that an engineless Probe I see in your back yard :)
Would a KL03 powered escort really be an upgrade over just having a running probe??? My friend had a probe back in the day and that car was a hoot. Especialy once he blew the engine and swapped in a KLZE.
Save for the weight, no. I just REALLY like doing more work than necessary.

Well the weight is what would make it... A KL Escort is way faster than you would think.

A KLDE/03 Escort should have no problems keeping up with or taking down a KLZE Probe.

GlennS
GlennS Dork
1/7/10 12:53 p.m.

aah according to wikipedia the escort does weigh about 400 pounds less. For autocross that would be hard to argue with.

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