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alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
8/31/24 11:12 a.m.

So if the race results are the same as qualifying- McLaren comes out of the weekend in the constructors lead. 
 

Makes the race pretty important. 

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
8/31/24 12:00 p.m.

So, Charles or George leading into turn one?

devil

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
8/31/24 12:29 p.m.
Streetwiseguy said:

So, Charles or George leading into turn one?

devil

As much as I really want Lewis to win, if max pulls a max on him, taking both out, I would be able to sleep. 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/31/24 1:52 p.m.

0.186s across the top 6. That's some close quali.

Lewis, in 6th, is closer to pole than Max, in 7th, is to Lewis. 0.5s gap. 

NY Nick
NY Nick GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/31/24 2:44 p.m.

That was fantastic and this is what he rules change from 22 on was supposed to bring. We talked about this last year, if you ignore max the racing is fantastic. 
One of my close friends and I had a good chat about this earlier. I say Red Bull has been cheating with brake vectoring that none wants to talk about but is exactly why the FIA clarified that rule. He says it is creative interpretation of the rules. I suppose he is right from a legal sense (or someone would be suing someone), that's why I'm an engineer and not a lawyer. I can't help but think if Max was 1/2 a second slower per lap (which is what McLaren said brake vectoring was good for, and what the entire field seems to have caught up in the last 6 races) that the last 2 years would have been this great too. 
As always bear in mind written from an anti Horn-dogg POV!

MiniDave
MiniDave HalfDork
8/31/24 3:15 p.m.

Yes, but is seems like we've just traded one front running team for another, doesn't it? 

One things sure, once the leader gets out into clear air he can pretty much run off and leave the rest.

We'll see what happens tomorrow......should be fun to watch!

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
8/31/24 3:24 p.m.

In reply to NY Nick :

Given how fast the change happened- it's hard to believe that the entire field caught up that fast to RBR. Let alone the other headliners passed them. Add in they go from good on tires to rather abusive...  it's pretty hard to not think they got caught cheating. Like Ferrari in the past. 

NY Nick
NY Nick GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/31/24 4:10 p.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

Exactly what I was saying...

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/31/24 4:52 p.m.

In reply to MiniDave :

I don't think we have one front running team. I think McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes are pretty equal and they vary based on the track and the driver. In other words, exactly what we want.

 Here's hoping Charles can get that top step on the podium soon! Monza would be ideal but maybe not this week. 

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
8/31/24 5:41 p.m.

In reply to NY Nick :

I should have started my reply "I agree that...". lol. 

kevlarcorolla
kevlarcorolla Dork
8/31/24 5:52 p.m.

They aren't rewording a rule mid season because somebody was "exploring".

 With Mercs DAS steering system they rewrote the rules so nobody could use it the following yr but allowed its use the entire season.

 With the embarassment '21 brought to the FIA I'm confident they swept RB's cheat under the rug.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
8/31/24 5:55 p.m.

In reply to kevlarcorolla :

At least DAS was a mechanical way to turn the tires, as the rule requires. I'd have to look at the rules, but after the McLaren third pedal, side biased braking seemed to be outlawed, apparently not clear enough. 

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
8/31/24 5:58 p.m.

One thing that is amusing- the only ones who don't see through all of this are the approved press. Everyone else suspects they were cheating, but we will overlook it. 

crankwalk (Forum Supporter)
crankwalk (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
9/1/24 9:22 a.m.

Piastri has a set on him and that was the most exciting first lap all season. 

Also it's the one weekend a year my tag might get recognized by somebody not thinking it's off a Chevy. (It's off a Chevy)

adam525i
adam525i GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/1/24 10:18 a.m.
crankwalk (Forum Supporter) said:

Piastri has a set on him and that was the most exciting first lap all season. 

Also it's the one weekend a year my tag might get recognized by somebody not thinking it's off a Chevy. (It's off a Chevy)

You better be doing victory laps around the neighborhood honking your horn!

gixxeropa
gixxeropa GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/1/24 10:19 a.m.

McLaren gave that one away. The commentators were so annoying complaining about piastri passing Max the whole race

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/1/24 10:20 a.m.

Well done Charles!!! For once, Ferrari doesn't screw up strategy. 

crankwalk (Forum Supporter)
crankwalk (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
9/1/24 10:47 a.m.

38 laps on wasted hard tires is pretty incredible for a car that over the last few years just ate tires so badly. I was hoping Carlos could run interference longer but it was sufficient.
 

Pretty badass drive for Charles today.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
9/1/24 10:53 a.m.

I've probably rattled on about this too many times, but the Ferrari guys went from top of the pack quali speed and absolute E36 M3 race tire life last year, to fair quali speed and the best tire life this year.  It's almost as remarkable as Maclarens speed improvement.

Oscar probably should have gone for the one stop, but I don't know.  Cord the left front and end up 7th...

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
9/1/24 10:53 a.m.

Lando looks sad.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/1/24 10:57 a.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

Lando has tasted the winner's champagne and now nothing else will do. 

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
9/1/24 11:06 a.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

I think he is developing a serious first lap complex.

I would be.

johndej
johndej UltraDork
9/1/24 11:41 a.m.

K Mag appears to have picked up 2 more points for poor driving so will have a 1 race ban.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
9/1/24 12:56 p.m.

Max came really close to loosing to George there. He really didn't need to fight with Lando, and the big gap from George's two slow stops was almost totally gone at the end. 
 

Heck of a race for Ferrari and LeClerc. Gutsy and it was driven to perfection. 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/1/24 2:46 p.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

If the race had been a couple of laps longer, we probably would have had a different winner and Max would have lost a place. I was happy to see LeClerc take Monza, that'll be a big lift for him and team. And the Italian anthem is fun enough when it's just the team singing along, hearing thousands of excited voices was fantastic.

Max was not in a happy place on the radio. Did anyone ever find out what he was crying about in the first couple of laps, about Lewis not giving him room?

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