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WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane Dork
5/2/18 11:02 a.m.

If you're friendly with any hydraulics guys, they'll have a big ol' impact, perhaps you could rent/borrow from one of them.   My hydro friend uses 1" sockets and the impact is good for something like 3600 lb/ft.

grover
grover Reader
5/2/18 10:07 p.m.

Today I used this 

Unfortunately, 

Too bad so sad snap on impact socket. 

I give up, it’s going to a Honda specialist tomorrow. 

barefootskater
barefootskater Reader
5/2/18 10:13 p.m.
grover said:

Today I used this 

 

surprise That looks mighty mighty. Are the numbers inscribed by that dial indicative of the torque it is capable of? 321123...

grover
grover Reader
5/2/18 10:28 p.m.

In reply to barefootskater :

It has power settings for forward or reverse. It was on full reverse. Ran it for about 30 seconds before the adaptor gave up the ghost. I was running it at 125psi, but a 3/8 hose. I think the hose is the problem in all of this and it makes me want a new compressor. 

grover
grover Reader
5/2/18 10:28 p.m.

In reply to barefootskater :

Btw, that thing weighed at least 10lbs. It was huge. 

pjbgravely
pjbgravely HalfDork
5/2/18 11:14 p.m.

I don't understand why you are using a 1/2" drive socket.  1" will do it but 3/4 should work. That is what I used for mine.

grover
grover Reader
5/3/18 9:54 a.m.

In reply to pjbgravely :

didn't have one? I suppose I'll be purchasing one.  I don't have a 3/4" or 1" drive in my garage 

06HHR
06HHR HalfDork
5/3/18 9:57 a.m.

The shaft on that thing is bigger than the ones on the CV axles for my G20.  It looks like it could spin the earth if you stuck it in the ground..

grover
grover Reader
5/3/18 10:07 a.m.

In reply to 06HHR :

it was pretty crazy.  The guy from the mechanics shop was bewildered that it didn't work.  I dropped it off to a slightly cocky honda repair shop this morning, I'll let y'all know how it goes.  

pjbgravely
pjbgravely HalfDork
5/3/18 10:10 a.m.

I have HF 3/4 impact sockets just for things like this. I got the 3/4 extensions and breaker bar from tractor supply. Very heavy duty for a cheap price. For something you are only going to use once a year you don't need snapon.

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
5/3/18 10:17 a.m.

I want to see a picture of the crankshaft itself broken in half next.

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair MegaDork
5/3/18 2:03 p.m.

Lefty Tighty?

Duke
Duke MegaDork
5/3/18 2:41 p.m.
tuna55 said:

I want to see a picture of the crankshaft itself broken in half next.

I suspect if that happens the next picture of Grover we see will be in conjunction with a news headline, and not a good one.

Professor_Brap
Professor_Brap Reader
5/3/18 2:43 p.m.

When i was working at the dealership a quick zap with a 1in drive impact always did the trick. 

The0retical
The0retical UltraDork
5/3/18 3:15 p.m.

That IR 258 is good to near 1500 ft-lbs, probably more. I thought for sure that would work. Whatever kind of Loctite is on that crankbolt, don't get it on your hootus.

grover
grover Reader
5/3/18 3:20 p.m.

I was supposed to hear back around 2 when they were sure they would be finished with it...they're not.  I wanted to stay around and watch them take it off but I'd probably be pissed if it was easy.  I do think a bigger compressor, lines, and 1" drive would have worked.  All the more reason to upgrade the compressor.  I'll let y'all know what they say. 

Jerry From LA
Jerry From LA SuperDork
5/3/18 4:13 p.m.

Forgive me for not reading the whole thread but I'm at work.  So I'm not sure if the following was mentioned.  Honda doesn't use anything on their crank bolts.  The problem is corrosion.  One small spot of it is enough to keep you from getting the crank bolt out with reasonable tools.  When it comes time to reassemble, some anti-seize on the bolt threads will make the next job a lot easier.

Jerry From LA
Jerry From LA SuperDork
5/3/18 4:24 p.m.

Also, if you put enough force on your cheater extension, the breaker bar won't be harmed.  Slow motion bending pressure will kill it but if you really apply force hard and fast to a six-or-eight-foot extension ( because you'll need it), the bolt will shift in less than a second.  Conversely, if you buy a 1" drive crank pulley socket for that truck impact you're using, it won't break.  Your wallet will, however.

grover
grover Reader
5/4/18 1:01 p.m.

Alas, the sage is finally over.  I picked up the van today- well, the tow truck did because I still have the timing belt limp.... and the bolt is free! I asked him what the thought and he said "it was stuck on really really good." He said he used a 3/4in hose, 1in IR impact and a lug nut extension

 

I had seen these before, but didn't know what they did.  He said they lose too much torque with anything else.  So, lesson learned...buy some of these, a bigger compressor and impact and profit? JK, I'm just happy that it's done and I can get on to changing this timing belt. 

java230
java230 UltraDork
5/4/18 1:12 p.m.

Damn about time its loose! 

Jerry From LA
Jerry From LA SuperDork
5/4/18 2:14 p.m.

Anti-seize is your friend.

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
5/4/18 2:20 p.m.

Ok some wrongness here. I am pretty sure that's a torque stick, which is usually used to -limit- the torque output of an impact gun. They are usually used by shops who don't want to use a real torque wrench.

 

perhaps I am wrong and it's really just an impact extension which looks a lot like a torque stick.

 

At any rate, I am glad it's off and you didn't have to break the crank in half.

grover
grover Reader
5/4/18 2:32 p.m.
tuna55 said:

Ok some wrongness here. I am pretty sure that's a torque stick, which is usually used to -limit- the torque output of an impact gun. They are usually used by shops who don't want to use a real torque wrench.

 

perhaps I am wrong and it's really just an impact extension which looks a lot like a torque stick.

 

At any rate, I am glad it's off and you didn't have to break the crank in half.

I'm sure I'm wrong on the name.  He said they use it because they lose torque with extensions.  They had an old school IR that was pretty beefy.  I am also very happy that it's not toast.  

dj06482
dj06482 SuperDork
5/9/18 10:17 p.m.

I was planning on doing the timing belt on our '05 Odyssey this year.  Now I'm scared.

I have a 4' long 3/4" breaker bar, but it sounds like that is no guarantee.

rdcyclist
rdcyclist New Reader
9/13/18 9:01 a.m.
barefootskater said:

 That bolt was set in there like excalibur, and I was not worthy.

Great line. Now I gotta wipe down the monitor and rinse out the keyboard...laugh

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