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Streetwiseguy MegaDork
6/23/22 7:54 p.m.

Just an odd thought exercise as I was staring at the windshield. 

Volvo rust resistance and theory of longevity, a not worn out BMW transmission, and the aircon from a 75 Coupe de Ville.

And so on:

Tom1200 UltraDork
6/23/22 8:25 p.m.

A Lotus Elise with a sedan body (lightweight) with Rolls Royce quiet inside and 76 Caddy AC.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/23/22 8:51 p.m.

Volvo rust resistance, a good solid Japanese transmission, nice interior quality.  Must have all wheel drive.  Enough power to get into trouble is a must.


Oh heck, let's cut to the chase.  It's my S60R.

The A/C, incidentally, is the only one I have ever experienced that blows as cold with the fan on high as with it on low.  38F in 98F ambient temps.  In Metric like the rest of the world uses that is 3c when it is 36c out...

6/23/22 9:16 p.m.

Beautiful Swiss body. Agile Japanese chassis. American V8 torque.

Still working on some finishing school manners and details. 

APEowner GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/23/22 9:33 p.m.

I'd need to know what it was going to be used for to  answer that question.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
6/23/22 10:06 p.m.

I think "ultimate" means you need to hire someone like Gordon Murray to design it. :)


Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/23/22 10:57 p.m.
kb58 SuperDork
6/23/22 11:19 p.m.

Yeah, what was said above... what are the desired features of the end product?

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/23/22 11:23 p.m.

In reply to kb58 :

This is also the reason there is no ultimate car.  No one car can do all car things really well. 

Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos)
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/23/22 11:56 p.m.

Keith is trolling again.

My answer: I'd let somebody that knows what they're actually doing do it instead of me.

In terms of general utility, a Toyota 4Runner hits the mark fairly well.
In terms of smiles per mile, a Miata hits the mark fairly well.

In other words: The use case is crucial to this question. Nothing will check all of the boxes.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/24/22 12:12 a.m.
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) said:

Keith is trolling again.

The question was how ;)

j_tso GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/24/22 12:23 a.m.

power, economy, ease of servicing

gimme at least two

ShawnG MegaDork
6/24/22 12:55 a.m.

The Lotus Super Seven already exists.

Jay_W SuperDork
6/24/22 12:37 p.m.

In reply to codrus (Forum Supporter) :

Get outta my head, man! laugh

Cactus HalfDork
6/24/22 1:28 p.m.

DB9 coupe with a manual.

Streetwiseguy MegaDork
6/24/22 3:11 p.m.

The end use is entirely up to you.  Gallardo engine speed, Volvo reliability, Honda civic weight, Lincoln town car ride is entirely impossible, but a perfectly legitimate possibility in this case.

Maybe should have said something like, what manufacturer does a certain thing better than anybody else on the planet?  Hence, Volvo rust resistance and old Cadillac air conditioner.

I also believe that no other manufacturer has managed to create a more reliable, long lasting automotive gasoline turbo engine than Volvo.  

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/24/22 3:44 p.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

Sadly the whiteblocks do seem to crush the cylinders over time and cause a leaky head gasket that can only be fixed by decking the block.

Be nice if they made rhe whiteblock out of iron smiley

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/24/22 3:46 p.m.

In reply to NOHOME :


93EXCivic MegaDork
6/24/22 4:00 p.m.

RWD high reving N/A 4 cylinder 4 door manual hatchback with motor and transmission by Honda, safety and rust resistance by Volvo, suspension tuning by Mazda, interior by Rolls Royce, exterior styling by Aston Martin, clock by Grand Seiko, wheels by BBS. 

Datsun310Guy MegaDork
6/24/22 4:29 p.m.
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to kb58 :

No one car can do all car things really well. 


Driven5 UberDork
6/24/22 6:53 p.m.

ND Miata platform stretched 15" into a FUN family-friendly 4 seat convertible, with the 2.5T under the hood... Think what the RX8 is to the NC structurally, but reciprocating pistons and convertiblized. Simply doing a 2.5T convertible RX8 would be an acceptable alternative as well.

6/24/22 7:30 p.m.
Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to NOHOME :


Sorry, "Swede".  Fingers type paster than brain thinks.


Ranger50 MegaDork
6/24/22 7:56 p.m.

Pre Ford ranger Mazda B series regular cab, NC front and rear suspension because 4 lug on a truck is stupid, turbocharged 20 or 26b, T56.

Or a late 60's to late 70's f150 reg cab short box, DJM dream beams, later model spindles, e series big brake upgrade, 557" bbf twin turbo, turbo400, cal tracs...

Both would be fun because cars suck and trucks rule. cheeky

Mndsm MegaDork
6/24/22 9:09 p.m.

Streetwiseguy MegaDork
6/24/22 10:00 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

Sadly the whiteblocks do seem to crush the cylinders over time and cause a leaky head gasket that can only be fixed by decking the block.

Only if you stretch the definition by buying an R...  

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