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grinch77
grinch77 New Reader
3/17/09 5:05 p.m.

I am sure some of you have seen this already but for those of you who haven't and for those haters who think the blackberry or Google phone is better...

Need to Monitor your A/F's? Or boost and other vital info? Put you girl on hold and check it!

"Coming in April 2009

The OT-2 is an OBD-II vehicle interface for Apple TM iPhone TM or iPod Touch TM and includes software performance computer, efficiency calculator, and advanced diagnostics. EST. MSRP $149 for the OT-2 Interface, Software download in Apple iTunes will be no-charge."

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Production Editor
3/17/09 5:11 p.m.

I'll be watching this one very closely. I used my iPhone and dynolicious to datalog my runs at the Dixie National tour autocross. I'm really liking some of the apps that are available for the iPhone, but I'm looking forward to somebody taking it to the next level in terms of features, especially in the "performance meter" category.

PaulY
PaulY New Reader
3/17/09 5:30 p.m.

I was under the impression that the obd2 port was too slow and had a low sample rate to give an accurate reading. Also unless your car has a wide band a/f won't be readable either. I wouldn't count on it for fuel economy either.

fiat22turbo
fiat22turbo SuperDork
3/17/09 5:31 p.m.

So here's a question for DIYAutotune....

Where's the MegaSquirt interface for the iPhone?

wherethefmi2000
wherethefmi2000 Reader
3/17/09 5:31 p.m.

Innovate seems to have done just that,hopefully they combine the data logging and obd2 interface for one sweet app.

wherethefmi2000
wherethefmi2000 Reader
3/17/09 5:33 p.m.

Innovate will probably make a wide band meter to interface with the iPhone / iPod touch.

fiat22turbo
fiat22turbo SuperDork
3/17/09 5:59 p.m.

I'm more interested in an interface for monitoring MegaSquirt itself, not just the WB02. Something that could combine the data from the sensors in the phone (GPS, g-force) with the inputs from the MegaSquirt (RPM, TPS, MAP, O2, Temp, etc) into a real data logging system.

This would save people from having to buy and mount a laptop or a "CarPC" into the car, along with a separate g-force monitor.

Ultimately, this is really close, the type of interface needs to be determined (dongle, bluetooth, wireless) I would vote for dongle, since it is well documented and allows the ability to use the iTouch as well as the iPhone and you can keep the things charged to boot.

Next comes the software. Essentially work with DynoLicious to expand their capabilities to include the data from the dongle.

Not to say it wouldn't be easy, but it is possible with enough effort.

walterj
walterj Dork
3/17/09 7:20 p.m.

Harry's Lap Timer will be available for the iPhone soon also... it was pretty nice on my Treo 2yrs ago... I am hoping for good things.

Harry's Home Page

stuart in mn
stuart in mn Dork
3/17/09 7:28 p.m.

The latest BMW Roundel magazine has a neat article on doing a wheel alignment with an iPhone loaded with an inclinometer application from http://www.apptism.com/apps/clinometer - it turns your phone into an angle finder, so with a straight edge you can easily check caster and camber.

SupraWes
SupraWes Dork
3/18/09 4:34 p.m.
fiat22turbo wrote: So here's a question for DIYAutotune.... Where's the MegaSquirt interface for the iPhone?

None of this is going to work until the 3.0 software is released this summer. Its one of the new features of 3.0 they are touting that gives developers full 2 way access to the dock connector for external devices, they already showed off a blood pressure monitor and a glucose meter for diabetics.

Yeah, a good lap timer that uses the accelerometers and gps would be very nice.

fiat22turbo
fiat22turbo SuperDork
3/18/09 4:43 p.m.

Yep, I know about the dock connector piece in v3.0, that was why I was bringing it up so that the people who have the skills and interest could begin the process since the SDK is available now.

fifty
fifty New Reader
3/18/09 5:13 p.m.
fiat22turbo wrote: So here's a question for DIYAutotune.... Where's the MegaSquirt interface for the iPhone?

I'm doing all the same datalogging with MS on a $30 Palm...

fiat22turbo
fiat22turbo SuperDork
3/18/09 6:05 p.m.

Yeah, I know I can do the same (although I'd need to pick up an old Palm, since I only have Windows Mobile PPC's) and eventually I will likely simply build a CarPC out of my old Fujitsu Lifebook "netbook" to datalog my MS and the iPhone can datalog the accelermeters (The Roller Coaster Physics App might work just fine for that, though I have Dynolicious as well)

The tricks are getting the time stamps to line up, which brings up controlling it all without making it unsafe for the driver, passenger or bystanders. I guess I'll work on the computer system and see what happens when v3.0 comes out.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt HalfDork
3/19/09 10:44 a.m.
fiat22turbo wrote: So here's a question for DIYAutotune.... Where's the MegaSquirt interface for the iPhone?

Phil Tobin is probably the one you'd want to ask about such a thing. Maybe after the first release version of TunerStudio; there's been some talk of porting it to other platforms though I'm not sure if the iPhone is one of them.

Xceler8x
Xceler8x HalfDork
3/20/09 8:33 a.m.

That iPhone is a great toy. Probably the best toy cell phone you can buy!

I hear they're making a special app so iPhone guys can cut and paste next. Wow!

Ugh, the evangelism! It gets to me....

Tim Baxter
Tim Baxter Online Editor
3/20/09 9:01 a.m.

If you think of the iPhone as a cell phone, you don't understand the iPhone at all. The fact that it's a helluva good cell phone is utterly secondary.

It's like seeing an early home computer and thinking "oh, look at the electronic typewriter machine"

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Production Editor
3/20/09 9:07 a.m.
Xceler8x wrote: That iPhone is a great toy. Probably the best toy cell phone you can buy! I hear they're making a special app so iPhone guys can cut and paste next. Wow! Ugh, the evangelism! It gets to me....

Nobody's saying your phone sucks, but there are a lot of folks who really like their iphone. Enthusiasm, not evangelism.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
3/20/09 9:47 a.m.

I'm trying my best to replace my razor with an iPhone, despite a funny fealing that Apple will be responsible SkyNet

Strizzo
Strizzo Dork
3/20/09 10:51 a.m.
Tom Heath wrote:
Xceler8x wrote: That iPhone is a great toy. Probably the best toy cell phone you can buy! I hear they're making a special app so iPhone guys can cut and paste next. Wow! Ugh, the evangelism! It gets to me....
Nobody's saying your phone sucks, but there are a lot of folks who really like their iphone. Enthusiasm, not evangelism.

i like my ipod touch, but no cut and paste is really stupid. heres a question though, i am thinking of making the full conversion to the iphone, but i wonder if all the apps i purchased for the ipod touch will go over to the iphone, or if i'll have to purchase them again.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Production Editor
3/20/09 11:09 a.m.

I think they're tied to the itunes account. My wife gets all the apps that I download for "free" on her phone. I suspect that apps that you've already downloaded for your ipod will transfer to another device on the same account as well.

walterj
walterj Dork
3/20/09 11:11 a.m.
Strizzo wrote:
Tom Heath wrote:
Xceler8x wrote: That iPhone is a great toy. Probably the best toy cell phone you can buy! I hear they're making a special app so iPhone guys can cut and paste next. Wow! Ugh, the evangelism! It gets to me....
Nobody's saying your phone sucks, but there are a lot of folks who really like their iphone. Enthusiasm, not evangelism.
i like my ipod touch, but no cut and paste is really stupid. heres a question though, i am thinking of making the full conversion to the iphone, but i wonder if all the apps i purchased for the ipod touch will go over to the iphone, or if i'll have to purchase them again.

Use the same login to sync the phone and they will

Xceler8x
Xceler8x HalfDork
3/20/09 12:37 p.m.

AHHH! I'm getting the GRM Beatdown!

I'm really just pulling you guys' crank here. I don't care one whit what cell phone you use. I'm just talking some smack. That said..here comes the smack talk!

Don't ban me Baxter!

Tim Baxter wrote: If you think of the iPhone as a cell phone, you don't understand the iPhone at all. The fact that it's a helluva good cell phone is utterly secondary. It's like seeing an early home computer and thinking "oh, look at the electronic typewriter machine"

But...isn't it what you bought? A cellphone? It's called the iPhone right?

Got ya on the second part. The iPhone is really a handheld computer that works. Much like a Blackberry. In fact, they're both competing handheld computers. They each have a different purpose. The Blackberry is more productivity oriented whereis I perceive the iPhone as being more consumer oriented. The basis for those statments are in the BB's ability to better handle email, contacts, calender, etc. The iPhone is great at allowing users to customize their personal appliance to what they want. iBeer? Got it. iAutoTune? In this very thread. iTunes? Sure. That said every iPhone user I know comes to me with the same stuff. "Hey, check out this cool thing my iPhone can do!" Which is great but it's not typically stuff that I find useful in a business environment or for personal productivity reasons. I'm sure those apps are out there but is the iPhone really that useful or just really, really pretty. That last bit is a personal question we could argue until iSteve iJobs is shaking hands with St. Peter.

..and yeah...cut and paste. Dude. Come on. It's essential. That is patently ridiculous that the iPhone can't cut and paste. It's like having a stereo that can't play FM stations. Sure it'll play cd's and mp3's but no FM?

Tom Heath wrote: Nobody's saying your phone sucks, but there are a lot of folks who really like their iphone. Enthusiasm, not evangelism.

I appreciate enthusiasm and evangelism in their proper place and quantity. The post that started all this was a bit of fanboism. Read below.

grinch77 wrote: I am sure some of you have seen this already but for those of you who haven't and for those haters who think the blackberry or Google phone is better...

I'm not a hater. As I said, I can see merit in the iPhone. It's just funny to call "hater" on people because they prefer another product over the iPhone. It's also really, really funny that people get bent out of shape when you point out flaws of anything Apple.

Maybe a way to not draw criticism to the iPhone would've been to say "This cool app was just released for the iPhone." Instead of "Yo Dudez! Blackberries and Google Phones all suck because I can't drink beer out of them, tune my car, play asteroids. I can cut and paste on them but we all know that stuff is for lame squares like the PC guy on iApple iCommercials!"

..and I'm a complete arse because I'm arguing the nerd version of Ford vs. Chevy. (FACE PALM!)

*all these smilies mean I'm really, really trying to not tick anyone off. If you're getting ticked off are you an evangelist or an enthusiast? Religion or preference?

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 Dork
3/20/09 12:41 p.m.

This thread delivers!

Tim Baxter
Tim Baxter Online Editor
3/20/09 1:02 p.m.
But...isn't it what you bought? A cellphone? It's called the iPhone right?

Personally, I don't care if it's called the iFlounder. It's value as a cell phone was pretty secondary to me, although it IS the first cell phone I've ever used that I didn't want to smash into tiny pieces.

I completely disagree with notion that the blackberry is somehow better at "productivity", particularly given how well the iPhone email, contacts, calendar, etc. I have a hard time imagining how it could be improved on that front. Further, the productivity of it is entirely up to you and what you want to do with it. The apps are there.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Production Editor
3/20/09 1:19 p.m.
Xceler8x wrote: AHHH! I'm getting the GRM Beatdown!

No, that looks way different, and usually involves concrete.

Xceler8x wrote: The Blackberry is more productivity oriented whereis I perceive the iPhone as being more consumer oriented.

I'm a consumer, not a product.

Xceler8x wrote: ..and yeah...cut and paste. Dude. Come on. It's essential.

Touché. It's coming.

Xceler8x wrote: *all these smilies mean I'm really, really trying to not tick anyone off.

Back at you!

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