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David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/9/20 2:42 p.m.
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Our friends at PCA make a compelling case for an electric Porsche 914. “Particularly among younger brand devotees, the existence of the Taycan, and what it represents, is going to cause an aspirational sea change — electricity is going to become the perceived gold-standard in performance,” states author Rob Sass.
“It’s already been noted by others that a Taycan Turbo S is faster in many situations than a McLaren 570S. How long will it be before people take note of the fact that a Taycan Turbo can hang with a GT3?”

But what Porsche needs, the article continues, is an affordable EV roadster–something less expensive than a Cayman. “A 914/E obviously wouldn’t be a 911 killer, but an Elise-like 0-60 time of well under five seconds, and a range of 150 to 180 miles would seem like fairly easy marks, and would make the car more than attractive enough for most two-seater buyers, which sort of gets to the last part of the puzzle: Do two-seater buyers exist in sufficient numbers for something like this to be profitable?”

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jstein77
jstein77 UberDork
1/9/20 2:46 p.m.

Yes, now is absolutely the time.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/9/20 2:51 p.m.

In reply to jstein77 :

What color for you? I'd have to do Ruby Red for mine. 

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
1/9/20 2:56 p.m.

How many Tesla roadsters were sold?  

I'd wager that the market is somewhere in between the boxter and the old roadsters.  The higher the cost, the closer to the Tesla...

The car has two problems- it's a sports car and it's an EV.  Neither of which have massive penetration at the moment- the sports car part being worse than the EV part.

wheelsmithy
wheelsmithy UltraDork
1/9/20 2:59 p.m.

Me likey. 

triumph7
triumph7 Reader
1/9/20 3:12 p.m.

Yes, but it has to be at a reasonable, sub-$30K price point.  Which IS doable.  The question is whether Porsche wants to play in that arena.  IIRC, they had more customer issues with 914 and 924 models than anything else.  Not because the cars were bad but because the, um, entry level customers expected so much.

spandak
spandak Reader
1/9/20 3:13 p.m.

I really like that rendering. 
I probably wouldn't buy it new unless they got it under $40k. And that would probably be bare bones and I would want $10k in options. 
And then there's the reality of having a family....  

If they make it, I hope someone buys it

Toebra
Toebra Dork
1/9/20 3:19 p.m.

I already know a few guys with electric 914's  Guy I got mine from has one.

STM317
STM317 UltraDork
1/9/20 3:44 p.m.
alfadriver said:

How many Tesla roadsters were sold?  

I'd wager that the market is somewhere in between the boxter and the old roadsters.  The higher the cost, the closer to the Tesla...

Around 2500 of the original roadsters were sold. But the world was different then. The roadster was basically an expensive novelty (100k starting price) from a boutique manufacturer. When Tesla first began hyping their next Roadster in 2017, they had people giving them $50k and even $250k deposits. I don't know that an 914e would be a huge seller, but they'd be much more common than a Roadster from 10-12 years ago just because the market has changed and Porsche has tons more brand equity than Tesla did when the first Roadster was released.

Woody
Woody MegaDork
1/9/20 3:51 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

In reply to jstein77 :

What color for you? I'd have to do Ruby Red for mine. 

Tangerine.

noddaz
noddaz SuperDork
1/9/20 3:56 p.m.

That rendering has me mumbling to myself.   And not in a "that's my stapler" kind of way.

Guards Red please.

Kreb
Kreb UberDork
1/9/20 4:00 p.m.

The concept has merit. It's just that - like the original 914, it slots in at the, um.... homlier end of their lineup IMO.

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia Dork
1/9/20 4:08 p.m.

can I buy the body kit to put on a stock 914 ?

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
1/9/20 4:13 p.m.
Kreb said:

The concept has merit. It's just that - like the original 914, it slots in at the, um.... homlier end of their lineup IMO.

I don't know.  The original 914 was a homely little beast until you cut those weird front tailfins off.  Then, it looked pretty good.

The rendering above looks a lot better than any other Porsche since the 944, to me.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/9/20 4:15 p.m.

In reply to Woody :

White interior or black? 

Gingerbeardman
Gingerbeardman Reader
1/9/20 4:26 p.m.

I have attended my mandatory re-education at the Glorious School Of The Enlightened One Musk and all matters vehicle electric:

I have seen the error of my ways and beg forgiveness for questioning t̶h̶e̶ ̶S̶t̶a̶t̶e̶  , err GRM masters, and I reconcile to hold the party line.

"Ermahgerd, electric AND Porsche!" "It's gotta be the best thing EVAR!" "THIS will totally revolutionize the industry!" "Best thing since vegan meat and gluten-free alcohol!" "It's ALL anyone needs, fight me bro!"

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia Dork
1/9/20 4:27 p.m.

are there more photos ?

I looked on PCA website and there was just this one photo

Thanks

Olemiss540
Olemiss540 New Reader
1/9/20 6:06 p.m.

They should definately make that, and then limit production numbers enough that dealers can sell them to a few of their cronies that are willing to split the profit from reselling with 25-45% ADM tagged to the price while they explain how scarcity makes an even better drivers car so as to dangle the carrot of unknown excitment over the remaining 99.9% of enthusiasts that will never be able to afford the transactional fees associated with a car culture driven by scarcity and markups instead of feel, soul, love, culture, and the .25%.

dyintorace
dyintorace PowerDork
1/9/20 6:10 p.m.

I think it's pretty darn cool looking. But I wonder if this type of car belongs in the VW brand, not Porsche. My fear is that the latter would mean a (much) higher price than might be otherwise necessary.

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia Dork
1/9/20 6:45 p.m.

Porsche built an all electric car 100 years ago , motors in the hubs even !

lost to History , Porsche built a working replica a few years ago for the museum collection,

So what is old is new again !

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
1/9/20 7:35 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

In reply to Woody :

White interior or black? 

Editorial Director, Grassroots Motorsports & Classic Motorsports

Both, it's called Pasha!

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
1/9/20 7:44 p.m.
alfadriver said:

How many Tesla roadsters were sold?  

I'd wager that the market is somewhere in between the boxter and the old roadsters.  The higher the cost, the closer to the Tesla...

The car has two problems- it's a sports car and it's an EV.  Neither of which have massive penetration at the moment- the sports car part being worse than the EV part.

That's an invalid argument. That was 12 years ago when the company and technology was in its infancy. The technology has improved immensely in that time. The public has accepted the technology and is buying these vehicles in increasing numbers. 

Dave M
Dave M HalfDork
1/9/20 7:45 p.m.

Is it time for an electric BRZ? Yes.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
1/9/20 7:54 p.m.

It would be a really interesting entry into the marketplace. I'd love to build an electric ND Miata, but the Porsche price point is probably more realistic. You can charge more for a car with a Porsche badge on it than you can for one with a Mazda badge.

There's one thing that sticks out, though - a big part of the cost of an EV is the battery. And the $100k Taycan can only manage 200 miles of range. If they're targeting 150-180 miles with a similar powertrain, it's going to still need a lot of battery and they're aiming at a lower price point. Either that or they'll have to make it more efficient than the Taycan.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/9/20 7:57 p.m.

Let's just say that in the near future I will be spending some time with a company possibly mentioned in this thread. Who knows what beans will be spilled. 

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