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mazdeuce
mazdeuce PowerDork
2/18/16 11:28 a.m.
Keith Tanner wrote:
Flight Service wrote:
Mike wrote: Nice interior, and quite nice to drive. Shame about everything else.
This could be Land Rovers slogan
As someone who owns a Series Land Rover and who hasn't really paid any attention to the new models - that made me laugh.

Series Land Rovers are different, they're more of "this is a damn nice tractor", which they are.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/18/16 11:41 a.m.

They're very different. But they're what I think of when I hear "Land Rover"

Apis Mellifera
Apis Mellifera HalfDork
2/18/16 3:50 p.m.

I have no direct experience, but it's my understanding that you can live with it if you're diligent about maintenance and can accept the ups and downs. And of course there's the judgement you'll probably get due to your poor life choices.

I'm sorry. I thought you asked about living with Herpes. A Land Rover Freelander? No, you do NOT want a Land Rover Freelander! Now that would be a drag.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/18/16 3:59 p.m.

isn't it sad... I own a Land Rover.. and you could not give me a freelander.. unless I could take it to the junkyard and get it's weight in steel back as cash

Furious_E
Furious_E GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/18/16 4:01 p.m.

A friend of one of my ex's had a Freelander. Its been a while, but I distinctly remember something new being broken every time I was in the car (don't think it ever had all four windows working at one time), before the tranny finally E36 M3 the bed at something like 70K. I don't even remember it being all that nice inside, super chinsy materials/build quality from what I recall.

Truly a car with ZERO redeeming qualities.

Edit: I actually saw one of these in the wild a few weeks back - running and on the road. Can't even tell you the last time that happened.

Mike
Mike GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/18/16 4:25 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: isn't it sad... I own a Land Rover.. and you could not give me a freelander.. unless I could take it to the junkyard and get it's weight in steel back as cash

I don't know if I'd try that. It has some plastic body panels.

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UberDork
2/18/16 8:20 p.m.

berkeley.

Now I want one.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
2/18/16 8:29 p.m.
m4ff3w wrote: berkeley. Now I want one.

I had a coworker with one. It was cool. Do it...

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
2/18/16 10:28 p.m.
m4ff3w wrote: berkeley. Now I want one.

Says the man that tried to dd a biturbo. I salute you sir, thats a special breed of crazy.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/18/16 10:32 p.m.
mndsm wrote:
m4ff3w wrote: berkeley. Now I want one.
Says the man that tried to dd a biturbo. I salute you sir, thats a special breed of crazy.

I am certain they have a white coat with really long sleeves waiting for him somewhere

scottmartin49
scottmartin49 New Reader
12/8/19 2:39 p.m.

I'm going to resurrect this thread to make the following point;

Freelanders DO NOT suck when compared to the entire market of 2000-2010 V6- auto trans.- AWD vehicles produced and sold. Here's how I know...

Bought a used one in 2006 coming off a Jeep Wrangler; it came with a gold plated six-year Ford warranty. Ford spent 30k at two different LR dealerships getting that rig settled, and since then it's been perfect, when paired with the religion level care and maintenance any Euro-marque from that era requires. Here's a few of the readily understood defects(?), and their 'repairs'.

1. The BIG one- the typical 'all aluminum, low coolant, overheating engine nightmare syndrome'. Shocker, eh? Now be honest and name a maker or model with the same sort of drivetrain that this won't affect?

2. The 'had to replace my tranny' gripe. It's the soloenoids dumb f**k- change them....or maybe you just used the wrong fluid in your ultra-mysterious Euro wonder wagon? No merde....it's a JATCO, just like the one they use in ALL the UMEWW's that blew their trannies. Keep your DexMurk swill out of here, and change it at 50k no matter WHATevr anyone else tells you.  

3. It's a BMW EMS. If that challenges you or if you don't know what it means go buy a 3.8 Buick and stfu.

4. "The Timing belts ur scaaaarrry!" (See Isuzu, Suzuki etc. belt V6's- or better yet the chain drive ones)

....I'm bored now and ready to give up. TLDR? Maintain it properly, know your machine, and be pro-active.

Or go buy that Buick- wtf do I care? (Wait- you say your Buick Enclave is a steaming pile of trash!?! Quel surprise...)

bearmtnmartin
bearmtnmartin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
12/8/19 3:06 p.m.
scottmartin49 said:

I'm going to resurrect this thread to make the following point;

Freelanders DO NOT suck when compared to the entire market of 2000-2010 V6- auto trans.- AWD vehicles produced and sold. Here's how I know...

Bought a used one in 2006 coming off a Jeep Wrangler; it came with a gold plated six-year Ford warranty. Ford spent 30k at two different LR dealerships getting that rig settled, and since then it's been perfect, when paired with the religion level care and maintenance any Euro-marque from that era requires. Here's a few of the readily understood defects(?), and their 'repairs'.

1. The BIG one- the typical 'all aluminum, low coolant, overheating engine nightmare syndrome'. Shocker, eh? Now be honest and name a maker or model with the same sort of drivetrain that this won't affect?

2. The 'had to replace my tranny' gripe. It's the soloenoids dumb f**k- change them....or maybe you just used the wrong fluid in your ultra-mysterious Euro wonder wagon? No merde....it's a JATCO, just like the one they use in ALL the UMEWW's that blew their trannies. Keep your DexMurk swill out of here, and change it at 50k no matter WHATevr anyone else tells you.  

3. It's a BMW EMS. If that challenges you or if you don't know what it means go buy a 3.8 Buick and stfu.

4. "The Timing belts ur scaaaarrry!" (See Isuzu, Suzuki etc. belt V6's- or better yet the chain drive ones)

....I'm bored now and ready to give up. TLDR? Maintain it properly, know your machine, and be pro-active.

Or go buy that Buick- wtf do I care? (Wait- you say your Buick Enclave is a steaming pile of trash!?! Quel surprise...)

That right there is a guy who owns a Freelander and and is a little prickly about it. 

 

Signed land Rover owner. But not a Land Rover owner who even considered a Freelander.laughlaugh

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
12/8/19 3:14 p.m.

In reply to scottmartin49 :

So Ford spent $30k to fix it and you don’t think it’s a POS.   Maybe if you had to pay for those repairs you would think differently. 

 

Daylan C
Daylan C PowerDork
12/8/19 7:37 p.m.

In reply to scottmartin49 :

Just because there was other steaming hot garbage on the market, doesn't mean the Freelander isn't also streaming hot garbage. And why the hell would you want a vehicle where it's only interesting detail is that it blows up occasionally?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/8/19 7:48 p.m.

"Once you spend $30k on them to fix them up, they're great as long as you're obsessive about maintenance". That's pretty funny.

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
12/8/19 8:32 p.m.

Stockholm syndrome with a side of Dennis Leary style crotchety rant very nice. 

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
12/8/19 8:52 p.m.

Wait, why are we dragging a three year old thread to do a rant? Anything can be good with 30 large into it. Even a biturbo. 

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/8/19 9:07 p.m.
dculberson said:

Stockholm syndrome with a side of Dennis Leary style crotchety rant very nice. 

This is the most perfect summation possible.

dxman92
dxman92 HalfDork
12/8/19 9:16 p.m.

Drive it off a cliff, toss the keys and don't look back. yes

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
12/8/19 11:18 p.m.

In reply to Wally :

Thank you I try!

scottmartin49
scottmartin49 New Reader
12/9/19 3:08 a.m.

In reply to bearmtnmartin :

Ehh...it bothers me when know-nothing dumb f**ks just spew the regular talking points from that heady position they hold inside their own sphincters. Doesn't matter if it's cars, politics, or sports...

scottmartin49
scottmartin49 New Reader
12/9/19 3:12 a.m.
dxman92 said:

Drive it off a cliff, toss the keys and don't look back. yes

When it's worn out maybe I will, but after 15 heinous winters driving, it still runs and looks great- it'll go twenty at least.

After 25, it gets a full bore Viking' send-off...

akylekoz
akylekoz SuperDork
12/9/19 9:02 a.m.

This is entertainment right here.  For the record I would take a Free Freelander, it would get gutted and engine swapped for more entertainment as a Lemons racecar.   Now that is a good use of a Freelander.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
12/9/19 9:45 a.m.

In reply to scottmartin49 :

I'm apparently too old and / or not cool enough.  What does 'UMEWW's' mean?

dculberson
dculberson MegaDork
12/9/19 9:54 a.m.
scottmartin49 said:

In reply to bearmtnmartin :

Ehh...it bothers me when know-nothing dumb f**ks just spew the regular talking points from that heady position they hold inside their own sphincters. Doesn't matter if it's cars, politics, or sports...

Or, hear me out on this, they don't have the Ford "gold" to drop $30k on a mediocre cute ute to then get what is a very average reliability afterwards. 15 years is not that long, most cars can provide 15 years of trouble free service. How many miles?

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