rustysteel
rustysteel Reader
10/23/13 9:50 a.m.

I'm thinking of selling the '04 Subaru Forester XT and buying a TSX. I'm looking at 04-05's, 6 speed. What should I be looking for? Reason for sale, XT is auto and not the greatest mpg. My work commute will be increasing. Thanks.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
10/23/13 9:59 a.m.

If you find one, make sure it has a good maintenance history. These like to stretch chains if they go too long on oil changes. They do burn oil, even more oil if you like to row the gears a bit. The Audio units suck balls and are a bitch to deal with as the entire HVAC/Audio face is seperate from the actual unit. At least there's a cheaper replacement option now.

Check for the 2nd gear popping out. Not uncommon on these (and the 6-spd TL's) and being that old will long be out of warranty.

Other than the crappy audio units and the oil burning and hte 2nd gear, they're pretty decent little cars. Not very roomy for their size, but not a bad car.

noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/23/13 10:06 a.m.
Bobzilla wrote: If you find one, make sure it has a good maintenance history. These like to stretch chains if they go too long on oil changes. They do burn oil, even more oil if you like to row the gears a bit. The Audio units suck balls and are a bitch to deal with as the entire HVAC/Audio face is seperate from the actual unit. At least there's a cheaper replacement option now. Check for the 2nd gear popping out. Not uncommon on these (and the 6-spd TL's) and being that old will long be out of warranty. Other than the crappy audio units and the oil burning and hte 2nd gear, they're pretty decent little cars. Not very roomy for their size, but not a bad car.

This... If the car is neglected the chain needs replaced at 100k or so...

rustysteel
rustysteel Reader
10/23/13 6:06 p.m.

Thanks for the info. I've got a few in mind but there is no rush. Might as well use the Subaru AWD until my contract ends at work, then back to supply.

I've always liked these cars and since we just bought an '05 Civic Coupe as a winter beater, I almost forgot how good the Honda manual transmission really is. Like a knife through butter.

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
10/23/13 6:27 p.m.

Have you driven one? After all the glowing car mag reviews, I was convinced I wanted one. I drove one, and was convinced a 91 integra with a billion miles was not an inferior car.

YMMV. Drive one.

I think they're ridiculously overpriced.

rustysteel
rustysteel Reader
10/23/13 7:11 p.m.
poopshovel wrote: Have you driven one? After all the glowing car mag reviews, I was convinced I wanted one. I drove one, and was convinced a 91 integra with a billion miles was not an inferior car. YMMV. Drive one. I think they're ridiculously overpriced.

Good to know. I haven't driven one yet, every one that I see is automatic. Might look into a TL as well. Still love our Forester XT, especially now that the snow is starting. Makes winter driving fun.

poopshovel
poopshovel MegaDork
10/23/13 7:58 p.m.

Personally, the TL felt like twice the car for similar money, but again, it's all personal preference. The TSX was nothing more than a cheaper quality 4-door integra to me.

Jaxmadine
Jaxmadine HalfDork
10/23/13 9:28 p.m.

They drive a whole lot like an accord for twice the cash.

irish44j
irish44j UberDork
10/23/13 10:15 p.m.
Jaxmadine wrote: They drive a whole lot like an accord for twice the cash.

That's because the TSX IS an Accord (in Europe) with a Honda badge and more luxury features. in the US.

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irish44j
irish44j UberDork
10/23/13 10:16 p.m.

On a related note, a good friend has a TSX wagon. He's done some suspension and other mods, and he still says it's terribly boring to drive (his previous car was a modded 2002 Maxima) and he's ready to move on after 3 years.

Jaxmadine
Jaxmadine HalfDork
10/24/13 6:38 a.m.

In reply to irish44j:

Thats the whole point of my comment. Lol. They are an accord.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
10/24/13 7:24 a.m.

Well, the wagon comes in 4cyl auto version ONLY. Why the hell Honda thought sticking the weakest, most boring drivetrain in their "sport wagon" was a good idea completely baffles me. Wait, no itdoesn't. They've been making assbackward idiotic decisions like this for years.

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