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David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/12/21 12:20 p.m.

In reply to Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) :


Nova = compact

Chevelle = intermediate

Impala = full-size

Or something like that. 

MadScientistMatt UltimaDork
10/12/21 1:25 p.m.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:

People made so much fun of me on another forum when I wanted to graft in a full STI drivetrain in my 73 Maverick.  They thought I was nuts for putting a 4 cylinder in that chunk of lead sled iron behemoth.  Then I pointed out that the Maverick was 700 lbs lighter than the STI, and they still didn't believe me until I posted about 5 sources for curb weights of both cars.  Everyone thinks they're so heavy, but they just aren't (unless they're the luxo barges like we're discussing.)

I'm more curious as to how you were going to get the flat four to clear the Maverick's shock towers.

Although I'd love to see a build thread if you try.

ShawnG UltimaDork
10/12/21 2:02 p.m.

A Maverick is hardly a behemoth.

It's more like the Pinto's fat friend.

Cooter UberDork
10/12/21 2:16 p.m.
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) said:

I was more referring to the apples/apples comparison.  The 300 is a full-size car, but it's smaller in size than what they considered compact in 1970.  You have to admit that a Riviera is a land barge compared to the Dinghy 300.  Sorry I didn't make that part clear, but Cooter to the rescue with the data.  In the muscle car era, they considered this a compact:

1964 Chevrolet Nova SS with 350ci

This is also patently false.

The wheelbase of a '71 Riviera is 122"
The wheelbase of a 2016 Chrysler 300 is 120.2
The wheelbase of a 1964 Nova/Chevy II is 183"

Now the earlier cars had more dead space in front and behind the wheels than cars of today, but the 300 much larger than the Chevy, is comparable to the Riv, and has more interior space than either of them.

Opti Dork
10/12/21 2:19 p.m.

In reply to Cooter :

I think you quote overall length for the II. Wheelbase is 110

Duke MegaDork
10/12/21 2:55 p.m.
Cooter said:

This is also patently false.

The wheelbase of a '71 Riviera is 122"
The wheelbase of a 2016 Chrysler 300 is 120.2
The wheelbase of a 1964 Nova/Chevy II is 183"


Did you mean 113"?  Because 183" is a whopping 5 feet longer than the Riviera's wheelbase.


Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/12/21 4:58 p.m.

Wow.... you guys took my relative example and went really deep.  I was just demonstrating that the same car "size" today is typically much heavier.

But, you do you.  Moving on.

dannyp84 Reader
10/13/21 9:12 a.m.

I think this thread would do well to feature numerous brougham-spec interior pictures..

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/13/21 10:20 a.m.

Not a brougham but how about some red-on-red action? 

earlybroncoguy1 Reader
10/13/21 10:29 a.m.

My first real "cool" car was a '72 Chevy Malibu (Chevelle). 2 door, 350/350, 2 barrel, pegleg 10 bolt, manual drums all around, bench seat. One day in 1980, I saw it sitting in somebody's back yard, knocked on the door, and paid $700 cash for it. It was a dreadful goldish/tan/light brown, with a cracked and peeling white vinyl top, skinny steelies, and whitewalls.

I started hot rodding it almost immediately. Rebuilt the tired 350, added an aluminum 4 barrel intake, Q-jet, headers, dual exhaust, scraped off the vinyl top and got the whole car painted '74 Corvette Medium Blue. Went junkyard picking for Chevy Rallye wheels, appropriated center caps and trim rings, put some air shocks in the rear, new carpet inside, stereo with dual 6x9's in the rear deck......that was a good looking, cool sounding, reasonably fast car back in the mid '80's. Hated corners, wouldn't stop worth a damn, but it cruised just fine.

Still miss it. 

dannyp84 Reader
12/29/21 10:32 a.m.

Reviving this thread because I just want to sit in this car:



Appleseed MegaDork
12/29/21 10:40 a.m.

Good God, is that thing clean.

volvoclearinghouse PowerDork
12/29/21 12:13 p.m.

It don't get no more ma-lazy than this:

May be an image of car and outdoors

buzzboy SuperDork
12/29/21 8:11 p.m.

In reply to volvoclearinghouse :

I used to pass a brown one on my way to and from  my college town. Personal luxury coupe?

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