frenchyd
frenchyd UltimaDork
8/24/21 11:10 a.m.

Don't need much amperage. Just enough to keep the battery charged during the race.  One wire to the distributor. One to the fuel pump sort of load. 
  Compact size most important, weight second.  
   Probably use V belt but not afraid to swap pulley's. 

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf HalfDork
8/24/21 11:16 a.m.

My solution was from Toyota. Small with enough to run the Fiat. Details if you want.

Trent
Trent PowerDork
8/24/21 11:35 a.m.
Tom1200
Tom1200 SuperDork
8/24/21 12:29 p.m.

I would say use a Datsun 1200 alternator they are light but they also have a separate voltage regulator, which may or may not be an issue for you.. The Datsun one is 8.5 lbs, 35 amp and available on Rockauto for $25. The regulator is $40.

My component weight spreadsheet has a Denso lightweight at 5.5 lbs..........sadly I didn't right down what the part number was.

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 SuperDork
8/24/21 1:01 p.m.

I used a Geo metro on the MG. 8 LB. Half the weight of the Miata unit. 

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
8/24/21 1:06 p.m.

Kubota.  

frenchyd
frenchyd UltimaDork
8/24/21 2:54 p.m.
frenchyd
frenchyd UltimaDork
8/24/21 2:56 p.m.

In reply to Tom1200 :

The Amazon Denso  is less expensive but doesn't give the size and if that is external regulator. 

Toyman01 + Sized and
Toyman01 + Sized and GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/24/21 3:20 p.m.
spitfirebill said:

Kubota.  

Seconded. They are tiny and not horribly expensive. Kit with regulator for under $100.

 

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/24/21 3:30 p.m.
frenchyd said:

In reply to Tom1200 :

The Amazon Denso  is less expensive but doesn't give the size and if that is external regulator. 

My Google Fu found the following on the Kubota Alternators.  The short answer is yes they are internally regulated.

From Here: (Scroll Down to Product Description)

https://www.amazon.com/100211-1670-100211-4520-16231-24011-16241-64010-16241-64011/dp/B008Y3QZ5Y

 

RAREELECTRICAL BRAND COMPATIBLE WITH CASE, DENSO, KUBOTA

DENSO: 100211-1670 100211-4520
KUBOTA: 16231-24011 16231-6401 16241-64010 16241-64011

ITEM DESCRIPTION: ALTERNATOR
UNIT TYPE: DENSO
VOLTAGE: 12
AMPERAGE: 40
FAN: INTERNAL
REGULATOR: INTERNAL
PULLEY: V BELT
GROOVES: 1
REGULATOR CLOCK: 12:00
POLARITY: NEGATIVE
MOUNTING EAR 1: M8-1.25 THREADED
MOUNTING EAR 2: 10.0MM UNTHREADED
WEIGHT: 7.66 LBS / 3.48 KG

APPLICATIONS

PLEASE VERIFY YOUR OEM PART NUMBER FROM YOUR ORIGINAL UNIT TO HELP ENSURE FITMENT.

CASE AG & INDUSTRIALTRENCHERS 460 KUBOTA V1505-B DSL 1994-2001
CASE OPE & AG & INDUSTRIAL UNI-LOADERS 1825B KUBOTA ENGINE 1997-1999
GRASSHOPPER OUTDOOR POWER EQUIP.TRACTORS - LAWN 928D KUBOTA 28HP DSL
GRAVELY OUTDOOR POWER EQUIP. TRACTORS - LAWN PM460 KUBOTA 30HP DSL
KUBOTA OPE & AG & INDUSTRIAL TRACTORS - GARDEN G2160 KUBOTA D782 21HP DSL 2005
KUBOTA OPE & AG & INDUSTRIAL TRACTORS - GARDEN G2160-R48S KUBOTA D782 21HP DSL 2005
KUBOTA OPE & AG & INDUSTRIAL TRACTORS - GARDEN G2460G KUBOTA WG752 24HP GAS 2005
KUBOTA OUTDOOR POWER EQUIP. TRACTORS - GARDEN G2160 KUBOTA D782 21HP DSL
KUBOTA OUTDOOR POWER EQUIP. TRACTORS - GARDEN G2160-R48S KUBOTA D782 21HP DSL
KUBOTA OUTDOOR POWER EQUIP. TRACTORS - GARDEN G2460G KUBOTA WG752 24HP GAS
KUBOTA OUTDOOR POWER EQUIP. TRACTORS - LAWN TG1860 KUBOTA D722E-GX 18HP DSL
KUBOTA OUTDOOR POWER EQUIP. TRACTORS - LAWN TG1860G WG590V 18HP GAS

 

The short answer is yes.

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia SuperDork
8/24/21 3:57 p.m.

there are small Kubuto size alternators that put out close to 100 amps

Trent
Trent PowerDork
8/24/21 4:01 p.m.

Various yanmar, Kubota and even the john deere gator all use the little one I linked. 

45 to 50 amps 8n a tiny form factor 

Can be hidden behind one hand

on the grid at a vintage racing event around here you would be hard pressed to find a single car without one..

 

Yes they are internally regulated.. No they are not " single wire". You will need a switched exciter wire.

wheelsmithy (Joe-with-an-L)
wheelsmithy (Joe-with-an-L) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
8/24/21 5:32 p.m.

Niiice.

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