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chandler
chandler MegaDork
7/15/23 12:27 p.m.
Slippery said:

In reply to dyintorace :

Gotti J140

They were factory options on convertibles, mine had them and so did one that I tried to buy a few years ago. 

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE UltraDork
7/15/23 12:44 p.m.

How many more pics do you have? I don't even know where to start! 

Pete. (l33t FS) said:

What's his username?

I actually laughed out loud.

Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter)
Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/15/23 6:10 p.m.
Carl Heideman said:
EvanB said:

Link or info?

I don't need a DAF but I do want one. 

All the cars are for sale and I asked if was okay to post pictures. Anyone who's truly interested just email me at my name @gmail.com. 

I doubt their price puts me in the "truly interested" category, but I'm curious how much the Seven clone is. 

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/15/23 6:22 p.m.

Could they stick a roll of stamps on this and send it to New York?

NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
7/15/23 6:35 p.m.

In reply to APEowner :

And the only unicorn to not have made the challenge to date.

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE UltraDork
7/15/23 6:37 p.m.

In reply to Wally (Forum Supporter) :

If it arrives to the challenge, it has to gain points based on how many clowns we can fit inside of it.

Carl Heideman
Carl Heideman
7/16/23 8:27 p.m.
Wally (Forum Supporter) said:

Could they stick a roll of stamps on this and send it to New York?

 

That one spoke to me too. I'm going to research it a bit more and get more pictures with my next visit.

Carl Heideman
Carl Heideman
7/16/23 8:38 p.m.

I'm planning to go back tomorrow  (Monday 7/17) afternoon to pick up the two projects I have the verbal deal on. If you have other picture requests, please let me know and I'll do my best. I didn't hear any Challenge-friendly prices. I'd say prices are on the high side of fair, but he does bargain. He is very entertaining during the negotiations--at one point during our deal he offered to throw in a Heineken and two pairs of shoes.

VolvoHeretic
VolvoHeretic GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/16/23 9:44 p.m.

What's this?

Carl Heideman
Carl Heideman
7/16/23 9:57 p.m.

In reply to VolvoHeretic :

MG Midget

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/16/23 10:00 p.m.

In reply to Carl Heideman :

I like weird little cars, especially ones I've not seen before 

Carl Heideman
Carl Heideman
7/17/23 5:22 p.m.

Loaded up and heading home. Who wants to guess what these are? One is somewhat mainstream, the other maybe not.  

Rons
Rons GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/17/23 5:35 p.m.

Red NSU Prinz I,II,or III

Green Cub Cadet?

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UberDork
7/17/23 9:02 p.m.

The NSU is cool if it is a good one. Stumps Me Mk1 for the green sheet metal donor unless it has a really special power plant.

Carl Heideman
Carl Heideman
7/17/23 9:20 p.m.

Good job on the NSU. Rons in 13 minutes (1959 Prinz I). 

Here's a better view of the green one. It's pretty obscure. Anyone else want to try?

WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
7/17/23 9:27 p.m.

In reply to Carl Heideman :

1960s high school vo tech sheet metal project?  Someone just learned how to use a brake..

Carl Heideman
Carl Heideman
7/17/23 10:24 p.m.

In reply to WonkoTheSane :

It's a production microcar from Europe.  Supposedly about 2000 built. 
 

The engine has a centrifugal clutch and drives the big pulley which goes to friction stones on the wheels. I just couldn't resist this kind of engineering. 

VolvoHeretic
VolvoHeretic GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/17/23 11:00 p.m.

Just think of the effort to build all of those rounded contours.on that thing. 

Run_Away
Run_Away GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/18/23 1:15 a.m.
Carl Heideman said:   The engine has a centrifugal clutch and drives the big pulley which goes to friction stones on the wheels.

buzzboy
buzzboy SuperDork
7/18/23 7:41 a.m.

The KV Mini as I remember reading about on Jalopnik oowned by Mike Harrell.

Carl Heideman
Carl Heideman
7/18/23 8:49 a.m.

In reply to buzzboy :

Buzzboy for the win. KV Mini on Wikipedia. KV Mini from Microcar Museum.

I'll post up some more details about both cars if people are interested.

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/18/23 10:25 a.m.

In reply to Carl Heideman :

Very interested, I like the creativity of that era where anyone could try and be a car builder. 

Carl Heideman
Carl Heideman
7/18/23 9:46 p.m.

I hung as many parts back on the KV as I could to assess how much of it I had. 

I have just about everything! I have most of the lights, but didn't put them on. Missing parts so far: plexiglass for the rear quarter windows (easy), one interior door latch know (probably easy), and some hardware for the top.

I was amazed to find what looks like the original carpet with the car.

I mocked up the drivetrain too.  The engine couples to what I believe is a starter/generator. The engine runs in either direction and like some golf carts, the engine starts backward for reverse.  The "differential" is very interesting. There were some ignition parts in boxes (not shown), but I'm not sure they are for this engine. So I may need to make up an ignition system, which shouldn't be too hard.

We're going to try to make this one run and stop before the snow flies, then paint it with synthetic enamel (tractor paint) over the winter. We're going to keep as many of the original parts in tact as possible. So not exactly a restoration, but a preservation and appropriate but not overdone cosmetic refresh.  

Time to join the KV owners club and contact my high school/college friend who has been living in Paris for the past 25 years.

Carl Heideman
Carl Heideman
7/18/23 10:00 p.m.

I dusted off the NSU and went through the parts and it too is very complete. Whew.

These days, everyone thinks they've found an original paint car and they're usually wrong. There is evidence that some of this paint is original. If not, I finding little evidence of repairs or body filler. So despite the rust, I don't think there will be further surprises.

I'm very pleased with how clean the engine bay and trunk area are, showing original paint and no visible modifications/hacks.

A really cool detail: It has sliding windows, but they run with a crank. Other cars like Minis, VW buses, and KVs have sliding windows that just slide. 

The front floors and rocker panels are pretty rotten.  I hope that I can find rocker panels and will likely make new floors on my Pullmax as I've rarely found aftermarket floors to be any good. While this is rough and rusty, it hasn't been messed up by previous repairs, so I have good patterns for a relatively easy 50-100 hour job.

This car will go on the back burner for awhile as I search for patch panels and work on other projects.

Carl Heideman
Carl Heideman
7/18/23 10:13 p.m.

I love details.

How about this neighborhood parking permit?

Better yet, one of the previous owners clearly had a sense of humor.

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