slefain
slefain Dork
4/30/10 9:18 a.m.

One of our sales guy's dad is friends with Peter Brock. He went to the dinner last night and got a few pics of the BRE 370Z. Looks AWESOME!

http://www.autotraderclassics.com/articles/templates/generalArticle.xhtml?articleId=64797

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I'll be at the Mitty tomorrow, stalking Brian Johnson.

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
4/30/10 9:21 a.m.

Wow, that is quite a beautiful color combo on that car. 370s are growing on me. Definitely looks better than the 350.

ManBearSTIG
ManBearSTIG New Reader
4/30/10 9:54 a.m.

I like the 370Z, but not a huge fan of the way they applied the BRE scheme to it.

Luke
Luke SuperDork
4/30/10 10:04 a.m.

On the other hand, I'm not a huge fan of the 370Z, but love the way they applied the BRE scheme to it.

z31maniac
z31maniac Dork
4/30/10 10:07 a.m.

I dig it. I'm hoping in a few years we will have a 400Z, replete High reving 100hp/liter V8.

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
4/30/10 10:10 a.m.

yea the BRE scheame hides the hidious lights.. if only they would do something about the cargo van door handles

forzav12
forzav12 Reader
4/30/10 10:31 a.m.

I respect Pete's work, but that thing doesn't do it for me-sorry.

mkiisupra
mkiisupra New Reader
4/30/10 10:40 a.m.

Stripes at 'wrong' angle, check out the z right behind, less aggressive angle. Change the angle, much different. Definitely moves away from the inital 'fox stripes' that the BRE livery is famous for. It is my understanding (not perfect) that if one is attempting a 'BRE-blessed' liveried replica car, one may need to pay a 'copywrite fee' for use.

jimbob_racing
jimbob_racing HalfDork
4/30/10 10:49 a.m.
mkiisupra wrote: Stripes at 'wrong' angle, check out the z right behind, less aggressive angle. Change the angle, much different. Definitely moves away from the inital 'fox stripes' that the BRE livery is famous for.

Sorry, the stripes are at the correct angle. As Per Pete Brock himself the stripes are on the same angle on the car as the A pillar post. It varies on the Roadster, Z car and 510 so the 370Z will be different too.

Chris_V
Chris_V SuperDork
4/30/10 10:57 a.m.
mkiisupra wrote: Stripes at 'wrong' angle, check out the z right behind, less aggressive angle. Change the angle, much different.

Check the cars. Much different. The new one is much swoopier, so the angle works on it. The original idea was to mirror the A pillar shape.

mkiisupra wrote: Definitely moves away from the inital 'fox stripes' that the BRE livery is famous for. It is my understanding (not perfect) that if one is attempting a 'BRE-blessed' liveried replica car, one may need to pay a 'copywrite fee' for use.

Considering who made the car, and who it was for, I don't think that was even a consideration. And anyhow, Jerry Fox did them on Jack Scott's car before Pete Brock.

they started like this:

and became this:

The last pic was at Riverside in '68 with Jack Scott and Jack Scoville's cars, the season before Pete Brock's BRE cars started competing.

EricM
EricM Dork
4/30/10 10:57 a.m.

Even better is the Datsun banner in the back ground.

pete240z
pete240z Dork
4/30/10 11:26 a.m.

stop.

It's like the entire high school is going to the prom and I am sitting home.

I cannot go this weekend and am sickened by all this great news of the mitty.

please stop. talk about Mazda's or something.....

miatame
miatame Reader
4/30/10 11:30 a.m.

Can you really say that the originator of a particular design got it wrong?

Anyway, I like the design but can't really fall in love with the car. Is the interior still cheap like the 350Z was? That was pathetic.

The 370 is looking really bloated, it looks ugly in front of the 240Z. They need to trim it back.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
4/30/10 11:55 a.m.

I like it.

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
4/30/10 11:59 a.m.
pete240z wrote: stop. It's like the entire high school is going to the prom and I am sitting home. I cannot go this weekend and am sickened by all this great news of the mitty. please stop. talk about Mazda's or something.....

Ok. Did you know that there's a Mazda key party tonight at the Mitty?

Margie

Capt Slow
Capt Slow HalfDork
4/30/10 12:01 p.m.

I love it....

Hmmm I wonder what my miata would look like in BRE trim?

mkiisupra
mkiisupra New Reader
4/30/10 12:02 p.m.
Chris_V wrote: Check the cars. Much different. The new one is much swoopier, so the angle works on it. The original idea was to mirror the A pillar shape.

Indeed the cars are different, as the roadster, 510, Z and all others using the BRE scheme. However I don't think that any interpretation has had the stripes at such an angle as to have them terminate aft of the door. Understood about the 'reflecting' angle from A pillar, however just following rules may produce akward interpretations.

Cool pictures and 'fox' stripe history, how does the cobra stripes in another poster's avatar come into play with the history? I have, possibly mistakenly, thought that all stripes over the front fenders, and sometimes hood are called 'fox stripes', e.g. Corvette GS, Cobras, Triumphs, etc.

From www.bre2.net :

" Just a reminder: the BRE race car graphics and BRE logo are trademarks of Brock Racing Enterprises LLC. If you have, or are creating, a clone of a BRE car, please contact us for licensing information at info@bre2.net "

Uhhhhh, make my BRE roadster clone a Bob Bondurant Driving School car clone thank you very much...

Eric G

dimeadozen
dimeadozen New Reader
4/30/10 12:22 p.m.
Chris_V wrote: Considering who made the car, and who it was for, I don't think that was even a consideration. And anyhow, Jerry Fox did them on Jack Scott's car before Pete Brock.

My understanding is that the stripes were "suggested" for use on the Roadsters by Nissan Motorsports, I mean, "Datsun Competition".

Chris_V
Chris_V SuperDork
4/30/10 12:50 p.m.

In reply to dimeadozen:

According to Jerry Fox, who originally did the stripes:

"The ideal came from The Texas SCCA Regions Logo. I like the way the sticker(red, white & blue)looked on the right side of the car but hated the way the stripes on the left side (slanting forward) looked weird."

Datsun Competition may have "suggested" them to Brock (who is a talented designer himself), but they were not suggested to Fox when he did them on Jack Scott's car, as they were not sponsored or supported by Datsun Competition.

pete240z
pete240z Dork
4/30/10 4:43 p.m.

I always wondered who came up with these similar paint schemes. Did Datsun push the Red/White/Blue theme on the teams?

P71
P71 SuperDork
4/30/10 4:58 p.m.

Corvette stripes sure as heck aren't called fox stripes. They're Grand Sport stripes and they appeared on the 63 Corvette GS race cars to differentiate between the otherwise identical cars. GS stripes started on the drivers (left) side only, now they are acceptable on both (and on a Miata... in purple...).

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