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iansane
iansane GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/18/23 10:48 a.m.

So far? I think the audi v10 at 7k.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/18/23 10:59 a.m.
Noddaz said:

Wasn't my car, but I sold an oil pump under warranty for a NSX.

MSRP, $21762.28 part number 15100-58G-A01

I thought there had to be a decimal place error there, but nope surprise

https://www.acurapartsworld.com/oem-parts/acura-pump-assembly-oil-1510058ga01

There is no reason for an oil pump to cost that much. I'm sure most purpose-built high-end race cars have dry sump oiling systems that don't cost that much.

 

kb58
kb58 UltraDork
5/18/23 11:13 a.m.

Yeah I thought the same about that Acura oil pump. Like most exotics, it gives manufacturers license to move decimal points as they see fit. And yes, a complete dry sump system is $3-7K for everything including the pan. Even integral pan/pump assemblies from Daley are nowhere near that price.

wspohn
wspohn SuperDork
5/18/23 11:17 a.m.

Note on the Lamborghini stuff and prices.

The name carries cachet (that means that people see it as their excuse to rip you off for parts etc.)  Most parts were made in relatively small numbers - several hundred rather than thousand on the early stuff, so prices were elevated to suit. Take a part in to a subcontractor for work and expect a big bill if you tell them what it is for.

I was in a good position when I was recommissioning my Islero S I had years of working my way through university selling parts for old British cars and could recognize bits of them on the Islero - many brake and electic bits came from British stuff and if you could read a Lucas part number you could pay $60 for an Austin turn signal switch, or if you couldn't you just ordered the same thing from the dealer, it took 6 months and cost you $300.

When I had to do things like send out the huge auxiliary oil cooler for cleaning and testing, it went as an old Fiat. Half the parts I bought were 'old Jaguar'. The brakes were all Girling, the brake light switch was an Austin Healey, etc. etc.

No such luck on major pieces of engines though - the guy that needed a head paid going rate, probably plus a bit because he didn't know which heads fit which engine version and as taken advantage of.  And that high price probably wasn't bad considering the lack of alternate sources and that he didn't have a running car without it.

I had run-ins with Italian highwaymen who wanted to charge me ridiculous prices for things - I took the original part in once and the dealer swore there was no other source than paying him a couple of hundred for a slave cylinder kit - until I took a new PBR kit out of my pocket and showed him the same part numbers on it as were on his parts.

Having an old Italian car was like having a T shirt that said "I know nothing so you can fleece me for all the money you want"

I was a temporary hero in the old Lambo crowd for having figured out that the rear window latches (which were unavailable OEM) were the same ones made for the big Jensens (styled by the same Italian designer), and gave them a source in the UK for as many as they wanted at a price they couldn't believe.

 

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/18/23 11:34 a.m.

In reply to wspohn :

I call that the "rich guy tax" effect. Certain cars signal to vendors that the buyer has extra cash to be fleeced of and parts prices have large sums gratuitously tacked on to suit. Look at the cost of aftermarket performance parts for an R35 for example, but make sure you're sitting down first.

It affects almost all kinds of cars to some extent. The "P-car tax" is a specific manifestation of "rich guy tax" and "Lotus tax" can be almost as bad (leading to owners getting their engine parts straight from Toyota, or installing DBA rotors of all things to save money vs. Lotus-sourced replacements). The only cars that are completely unaffected are older low-end sports cars and sport compacts that aren't considered classics like Civics, Corollas, Golfs, Mustangs (of certain generations), and perhaps until recently, older Miatas and MR2s. Even new low-end sports cars are affected to some extent - compare aftermarket performance parts for a newish Golf or a Toyobaru to similar ones for an older Golf or a Corolla/Altezza.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/18/23 11:37 a.m.
Datsun310Guy said:

Nobody's bought a set of $1500 triple Weber carbs for a Datsun Z yet?  I'm surprised.  

Get me a Z car and I will oblige smiley

That is only $500 per carb and you get the manifold and linkage for free!

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/18/23 11:42 a.m.
GameboyRMH said:
Noddaz said:

Wasn't my car, but I sold an oil pump under warranty for a NSX.

MSRP, $21762.28 part number 15100-58G-A01

I thought there had to be a decimal place error there, but nope surprise

https://www.acurapartsworld.com/oem-parts/acura-pump-assembly-oil-1510058ga01

There is no reason for an oil pump to cost that much. I'm sure most purpose-built high-end race cars have dry sump oiling systems that don't cost that much.

 

Purpose built dry sumps probably have higher production volume.

Plus, they can and often do add 10% per year that the part is on the shelf, to cover storage and taxes on assets

Jesse Ransom
Jesse Ransom GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
5/18/23 11:51 a.m.

I'm pretty sure I'm blocking something out. I think I'm having a lot of trouble adapting my notion of what cars and parts should cost and what I can afford after initially setting them circa 1993 when I was making six bucks an hour at the coffee shop.

I guess it's probably the new nose for the 2002? It was about $1150, shipped, I think. Maybe a set of wheels and tires, but that doesn't feel like the answer to this question.

It's just sort of hit me that the new shop's quite likely costing more than every car and car part I've ever bought all put together... The forum's limited emoji set doesn't cover whatever feeling that is.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/18/23 12:04 p.m.
GameboyRMH said:
Noddaz said:

Wasn't my car, but I sold an oil pump under warranty for a NSX.

MSRP, $21762.28 part number 15100-58G-A01

I thought there had to be a decimal place error there, but nope surprise

https://www.acurapartsworld.com/oem-parts/acura-pump-assembly-oil-1510058ga01

There is no reason for an oil pump to cost that much. I'm sure most purpose-built high-end race cars have dry sump oiling systems that don't cost that much.

 

It's on sale for $4100 off!

 

Noddaz
Noddaz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
5/18/23 12:55 p.m.
codrus (Forum Supporter) said:
GameboyRMH said:
Noddaz said:

Wasn't my car, but I sold an oil pump under warranty for a NSX.

MSRP, $21762.28 part number 15100-58G-A01

I thought there had to be a decimal place error there, but nope surprise

https://www.acurapartsworld.com/oem-parts/acura-pump-assembly-oil-1510058ga01

There is no reason for an oil pump to cost that much. I'm sure most purpose-built high-end race cars have dry sump oiling systems that don't cost that much.

 

It's on sale for $4100 off!

 

I guess I am a dinosaur, but I balk most times at paying $4100 for a car let alone get $4100 off.

At work we laughed about that oil pump for a long time.

Welly
Welly New Reader
5/18/23 1:01 p.m.

On part/part number. 3000CAN for the intake manifold for my 2007 Audi S6.

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
5/18/23 1:19 p.m.

$2400 for a never-installed T-9 conversion for a Triumph GT6.

calteg
calteg SuperDork
5/18/23 1:31 p.m.

Hearing how many folks shelled out a ton of money just to let the parts sit makes me feel much better about the megasquirt that's been sitting in a box for the last few years...

NickD
NickD MegaDork
5/18/23 1:41 p.m.

$5200 for the Rotrex supercharger kit from Track Dog Racing/ for my Miata. But, hot damn, was it worth it.

Second place would be $2250 for Xida Race coilovers with 800lb/in front and 500lb/in rear springs for the same Miata. Again, so worth it.

759NRNG
759NRNG PowerDork
5/18/23 7:00 p.m.

My emoji awaits a Strange Eng GForce 9" IRS assembly sitting in the grosh at the princely sum of $6799. With diff #4(OEM Getrag) howling for mercy enough was enough. Now to get with SVreX and talk a grosh like his with a two post lift....

DocRob
DocRob Reader
5/18/23 9:02 p.m.

I was thinking about this earlier. 

In recent memory the most expensive unit of parts I've bought was a rebuilt rear diff for the FJ which was about 900 bucks. I suspect I've paid more for parts, but I can't recall. 

I've been pretty fortunate that most of the vehicles I've owned have been very reliable. Or cheap enough that major repairs meant the whole car was replaced.

Now the Sunbeam is going to be a different story. Certain part, like the KPower kit to mount a K24 to my Getrag gearbox, are just pricey...So, is what it is. 
 

Docwemple
Docwemple HalfDork
5/18/23 9:10 p.m.

M5 vanos pump. Don't ask, wallet is still having nightmares. 

matthewmcl
matthewmcl Dork
5/18/23 9:24 p.m.
Noddaz said:

Wasn't my car, but I sold an oil pump under warranty for a NSX.

MSRP, $21762.28 part number 15100-58G-A01

That's... that's... I am not quite sure. How?

APEowner
APEowner GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
5/18/23 10:33 p.m.
matthewmcl said:
Noddaz said:

Wasn't my car, but I sold an oil pump under warranty for a NSX.

MSRP, $21762.28 part number 15100-58G-A01

That's... that's... I am not quite sure. How?

It is a bespoke dry sump pump with 6 scavenge stages, 3 castings and a low production volume  of around 3,000 but still.

APEowner
APEowner GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
5/18/23 10:35 p.m.

My truck needs a new turbocharger actuator so I may be about to set a personal record for the most ever spent on a single part.

kb58
kb58 UltraDork
5/18/23 11:13 p.m.
Docwemple said:

M5 vanos pump. Don't ask, wallet is still having nightmares. 

Sorry, had to look... um... yeah

Caperix
Caperix Reader
5/19/23 7:43 a.m.

Not my money but I had to sell a customers extended warranty a $16000 supercharger for a $20 clutch bearing on a bmw e65 Alpina b7.

Good thing on that was there was not a core charge on the part so I pulled the clutch & replaced the bearing my self & sold the supercharger.  Bmw/Alpina finally came out with a clutch hub kit.

wae
wae PowerDork
5/19/23 7:50 a.m.
APEowner said:
matthewmcl said:
Noddaz said:

Wasn't my car, but I sold an oil pump under warranty for a NSX.

MSRP, $21762.28 part number 15100-58G-A01

That's... that's... I am not quite sure. How?

It is a bespoke dry sump pump with 6 scavenge stages, 3 castings and a low production volume  of around 3,000 but still.

I was thinking that wasn't really all that expensive and I wasn't sure what all the consternation was about.  It wasn't until this reply that I realized it was $21,762.28 not the $2,762.28 that I first thought.

Holy carp!

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/19/23 8:07 a.m.

If I remember correctly, the leaf springs on my S10, that were about a grand for both sides, required a replacing of the pumpkin, at another $1500. So that $2500 repair in a $5k truck. 

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/19/23 8:46 a.m.
wae said:

I was thinking that wasn't really all that expensive and I wasn't sure what all the consternation was about.  It wasn't until this reply that I realized it was $21,762.28 not the $2,762.28 that I first thought.

Holy carp!

My brain wouldn't let me see the full price at first either, but my eyes were already popping at what looked like $2.1k...

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