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nderwater UltimaDork
8/31/20 12:03 p.m.

My experience was pretty close to sink or swim.  Thankfully I had run HPDEs at the track already to learn the line and breaking points, and I had some karting experience so I was familiar with driving two and three wide into brake zones and through corners.  If you haven't done any track driving or racing at all you will find yourself over your skiis.

wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/31/20 12:05 p.m.

It is really more up to the team's to decide if you have enough experience.


I would suggest going to a race and checking it all out and get to know a local team.  Spend some time helping them prep the car and you will usually get a chance at some seat time.


I don't know how much lemons cost these days, but champcar is anywhere from 1k for 4 hours of seat time in a midpack car to 2k for that same 4 hours in a front runner.


You will need suit, helmet, Hans, gloves, shoes, coolshirt.

8/31/20 12:29 p.m.

In reply to AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) :

Thanks for the breakdown. The cost of PPE seems like the biggest obstacle if $$ really matters.



AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter)
AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/31/20 12:44 p.m.

In reply to NOHOME :

i got a pretty cost-effective setup from a GRM advertiser (back in 2012, no magazine handy to see if they still advertise).  if you're OK with separate long-johns vs a 3-layer suit, that knocks the price down a good bit.  IIRC it was under $400 for long johns, suit, socks, shoes, gloves, and balaclava. add helmet ($300-ish IIRC, got a freebie from work because i was a vehicle test engineer at the time) and HANS (i borrowed one) and cool-suit and/or camelbak.  but those are one-time costs.  race more and they become cheaper per use.  :-)

wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/31/20 12:55 p.m.
NOHOME said:

In reply to AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) :

Thanks for the breakdown. The cost of PPE seems like the biggest obstacle if $$ really matters.



There are places that will rent you all the gear you need as well.

Sonic UltraDork
9/1/20 9:21 p.m.

http://www.racesuitrental.com has been used by several people I know with good results/  

Raceimage.com also has good quality used suits.  

ILHWEJD20 New Spammer
10/7/20 5:25 p.m.
icaneat50eggs said:

To me this is like saying, congrats , you've won a date with your favorite supermodel. However, your only going to get to second base.

Is it as much fun as you could possibly have? No

Does it beat the heck out of sitting around bored? Hell yes

Is it likely to leave you wanting the ENTIRE experience? Most definitely.

some teams just have more mechanics than drivers. Lots of people do it

Brokeback (Matt)
Brokeback (Matt) HalfDork
10/7/20 5:45 p.m.

Canoe with enough class to quote a good supermodel analogy

frenchyd UltimaDork
11/4/21 6:38 p.m.

In reply to golfduke :

I agree with you, it feels like cheating.  But it's commonly done. 
     I like short sessions where you can get some direct feedback as to how to improve.  SCCA. does the best job of that in their drivers schools. However  many if not most clubs have SCCA staff and tech guys helping. 
      The flaw with SCCA is they really only want newer cars.  They want high dollar tube frame fiberglass bodies.

  Vintage racing however tends to accept older cars.   Old Mustangs Ford Falcons, MG's Triumph and others.  Basically clean out the car straighten up the body, give it a decent paint job that looks OK from 10 yards away.  Put on safety gear, rollbar/cage.  Have fun. 
There is one basic rule.  No body contact.   
      Drive as fast as you can maintain control.  If you have contact you are put on suspension for 13 months. If during that period you have another contact you are banned for 13 months. 
   We race, we race hard. But in control. 
      Vintage has drivers schools where experienced guys help you be better, faster, easier on your equipment. 
   SVRA  which is the big national club has cars as new as 5 years old.  But many are 30-40+ years old. 
         I bought a $500 Jaguar XJS and I could go vintage racing spending around $2000 if I do all the work myself. I'm going to spend a little more tovreplicate the. group 44 car. Typically people have $5000-$15000 in their car. Most are paycheck racers buying parts with whatever spare money left out of the paycheck. although I have raced with multi million dollar Ferrari's etc. 

 The  nice thing about Vintage racing is the rules don't change. You don't have to spend a lot of money mid season to stay competitive.  You'll meet nice people who are just trying to have fun.  Few have offensive ego's or are jerks. Most will lend or even give you parts. Help you get back together and then race you. I seem to have a sore face after the races from all the smiling I do.  

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