A 2' x 3' chunk of concrete came loose in a parking ramp in downtown St. Paul, MN.
A 2' x 3' chunk of concrete came loose in a parking ramp in downtown St. Paul, MN.
Whoa. What ramp was that, st Joe's? That thing scared the hell out of me.
It was at the Rivercentre ramp.
In reply to stuart in mn :
Wow. I park there when we go to the science center.
OE36 M3. That one isnt much better.
Well that's terrifying. Who covers that? Car owners insurance or whoever owns the parking garage I would hope?
In reply to MazdaFace :
That should fall under a “garage keeper’s” liability policy by whoever owns/leases/manages the garage.
It’s also the main parking ramp for the World Class Excel Energy Center home of the Wild and many big name concerts. Some have joked they are withholding the funding to repair the ramp (it’s been common knowledge to the locals for the past several years the ramp’s condition has been less than acceptable) as a way to encourage people to not use internal combustion powered vehicles, but rather use bicycles, walk or use mass transit as a way to get in and out of this area and downtown in general.
May be a wise idea to not use this ramp at all (until it’s repaired/updated) unless you want to risk damage to your vehicle or worse yet to you or your loved ones.
drainoil said:Some have joked they are withholding the funding to repair the ramp as a way to encourage people to not use internal combustion powered vehicles, but rather use bicycles, walk or use mass transit as a way to get in and out of this area and downtown in general.
Don't know about St. Paul, but Minneapolis has been pushing that agenda hard...the city council seems to have the idea that simply making it hard to find a place to park will convince people to throw away their cars. I'm all for bikes and public transportation, but that's a flawed concept; too many people need to get places where it's impractical or impossible to do without their own set of wheels. Last fall, without any notice to the residents, they added bike-only lanes to two busy crosstown streets in my neighborhood (thereby reducing them to one lane for cars) when there's already a major bike trail just one block away.
stuart in mn said:drainoil said:Some have joked they are withholding the funding to repair the ramp as a way to encourage people to not use internal combustion powered vehicles, but rather use bicycles, walk or use mass transit as a way to get in and out of this area and downtown in general.
Don't know about St. Paul, but Minneapolis has been pushing that agenda hard...the city council seems to have the idea that simply making it hard to find a place to park will convince people to throw away their cars. I'm all for bikes and public transportation, but that's a flawed concept; too many people need to get places where it's impractical or impossible to do without their own set of wheels. Last fall, without any notice to the residents, they added bike-only lanes to two busy crosstown streets in my neighborhood (thereby reducing them to one lane for cars) when there's already a major bike trail just one block away.
I just spent the past 20 minutes typing a very detailed response and my iPad just suddenly turned off before I could submit my post (insert angry emoji lol). This iPad is only two months old. Anyhow I can assure you the anti automobile pro bicycle movement is alive and well in the capital city. I’ve been here my whole life I’ve seen it firsthand. Super high property taxes and assessments and maybe twelve good weeks of weather per year among other things, it’s still such a tremendous place to live!
And this is why I park at the ramp by Alarys. $4 gets me bussed to excel center and back, plus a free beer after the event.
1kris06 said:And this is why I park at the ramp by Alarys. $4 gets me bussed to excel center and back, plus a free beer after the event.
Never been a huge bar guy but I liked Alary’s when Al Sr. was still alive and still spent time at the bar. He played for the Chicago Bears under George Halas. Now days the bar seems kinda sanitized compared to 10-15 years ago.
In an aside, I never thought I’d ever see anything about Alary’s here on GRM lol.
What the hell is a parking ramp?
Says the Georgia guy...
stuart in mn said:drainoil said:Some have joked they are withholding the funding to repair the ramp as a way to encourage people to not use internal combustion powered vehicles, but rather use bicycles, walk or use mass transit as a way to get in and out of this area and downtown in general.
Don't know about St. Paul, but Minneapolis has been pushing that agenda hard...the city council seems to have the idea that simply making it hard to find a place to park will convince people to throw away their cars. I'm all for bikes and public transportation, but that's a flawed concept; too many people need to get places where it's impractical or impossible to do without their own set of wheels. Last fall, without any notice to the residents, they added bike-only lanes to two busy crosstown streets in my neighborhood (thereby reducing them to one lane for cars) when there's already a major bike trail just one block away.
As a bicyclist, I wish we had a 10th of that here. I would gladly ride to work if I was assured of a decent chance of not getting run over in the process
mad_machine said:stuart in mn said:drainoil said:Some have joked they are withholding the funding to repair the ramp as a way to encourage people to not use internal combustion powered vehicles, but rather use bicycles, walk or use mass transit as a way to get in and out of this area and downtown in general.
Don't know about St. Paul, but Minneapolis has been pushing that agenda hard...the city council seems to have the idea that simply making it hard to find a place to park will convince people to throw away their cars. I'm all for bikes and public transportation, but that's a flawed concept; too many people need to get places where it's impractical or impossible to do without their own set of wheels. Last fall, without any notice to the residents, they added bike-only lanes to two busy crosstown streets in my neighborhood (thereby reducing them to one lane for cars) when there's already a major bike trail just one block away.
As a bicyclist, I wish we had a 10th of that here. I would gladly ride to work if I was assured of a decent chance of not getting run over in the process
I’m not the Lance Armstrong spandex bike shorts type by any means but I do enjoy biking sometimes but it won’t be on or close to busy roadways especially at rush hour. With as many distracted drivers, pedestrians and even other bicyclists with their faces buried in a cell phone when they should be paying attention to what they are doing, you couldn’t pay me to risk my life like that to save money in gas, parking, save the planet or whatever your motivation is for doing it.
drainoil said:mad_machine said:stuart in mn said:drainoil said:Some have joked they are withholding the funding to repair the ramp as a way to encourage people to not use internal combustion powered vehicles, but rather use bicycles, walk or use mass transit as a way to get in and out of this area and downtown in general.
Don't know about St. Paul, but Minneapolis has been pushing that agenda hard...the city council seems to have the idea that simply making it hard to find a place to park will convince people to throw away their cars. I'm all for bikes and public transportation, but that's a flawed concept; too many people need to get places where it's impractical or impossible to do without their own set of wheels. Last fall, without any notice to the residents, they added bike-only lanes to two busy crosstown streets in my neighborhood (thereby reducing them to one lane for cars) when there's already a major bike trail just one block away.
As a bicyclist, I wish we had a 10th of that here. I would gladly ride to work if I was assured of a decent chance of not getting run over in the process
I’m not the Lance Armstrong spandex bike shorts type by any means but I do enjoy biking sometimes but it won’t be on or close to busy roadways especially at rush hour. With as many distracted drivers, pedestrians and even other bicyclists with their faces buried in a cell phone when they should be paying attention to what they are doing, you couldn’t pay me to risk my life like that to save money in gas, parking, save the planet or whatever your motivation is for doing it.
that is exactly my point. I have 5 ways onto Absecon Island (where Atlantic City is the most well known town) two of them are safe, but one of those does not allow bicycles at all and the other is at the far end of the island from work.. adding some 10 miles to my trip. Of the remaining three, 1 is the AC expressway, which is a limited access highway and the other two will see speeds of up to 90+ mph with all the carnage you can imagine associated with going those speeds on a road not prepared for them driven by idiots with their noses in their phones.
ultraclyde said:What the hell is a parking ramp?
Says the Georgia guy...
In civilization we call it a parking garage.
That’s a weird and freakish concrete failure. I’d like to think someone inspected the parking garage annually but probably not.
We had a bizarre and tragic parking garage failure maybe a decade ago here in Lexington. An F-150 struck the exterior wall of the structure knocking off a 5,000 lb slab of concrete which fell two stories and crushed a pedestrian below. Tragic, but led to reforms in parking structure design and enforcement of codes. So whenever you wonder “why” a thing has to be made safer, it’s usually cases that ended badly.
Overlooking how shady trying to neglect parking GARAGES and eliminate parking spaces to try to force people into healthier modes of transportation is, it seems like a short sighted plan in regards to tourism money and attracting new people to enjoy your town.
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