Don't think Paris in the winter is the place to be.

Slippery wrote:

mad_machine wrote: Something a friend of mine was telling me. He is a native german, from Cologne, living here with his wife and children in the US. If you are not german by blood (meaning one of your parents had to be a german citizen) you cannot become a german citizen. As he told me, there are third and fourth generation Turks living in Germany, their parents and grandparents were born and raised in Germany and all they know is the German culture and in some cases, language, who are not German and if they break any laws, will get deported to Turkey. He does not agree with that, but there is little anybody can do to change the law. A lot of Europe is like that

German citizenship is passed on on the father side only. If your dad is German, then you can get it but not from your mother is German and your father is not.

sounds like the opposite with me. I am 1/16th Seneca, but I cannot claim tribal citizenship because it came from my Father not my Mother. they follow a Matrilineal linage

In reply to mad_machine:

Personally, I feel that if you aren't born into that, on a reservation, you shouldn't get the unique benefits anyway.

And FWIW, that deal with Russia has been coming for a long time before Russia started misbehaving.

The media made a big show about the rally in Paris telling us how it was all in support of freedom of speech and freedom of the press. I find it very interesting that the same media is virtually silent on the Jeffery Sterling trial that is going on right outside of DC. If freedom of the press were really all that important to them, you'd think they'd cover this trial.

aircooled wrote:

iadr wrote: ..Shows France as being a bit more of an economic player than many would think.

Unfortunately France makes a bit of it's money selling weapons to countries that the US won't sell to. They are currently in a deal to sell Russia amphibious assault ships.... nice. I suspect the US buys some of there stuff so we can learn how to blow it up when we run into it.

Why in the hell would France develop amphibious assault ships???

Don't forget they helped Iran in their nuclear program. Probably help india and pakistan too.

mad_machine wrote:

Slippery wrote:

mad_machine wrote: Something a friend of mine was telling me. He is a native german, from Cologne, living here with his wife and children in the US. If you are not german by blood (meaning one of your parents had to be a german citizen) you cannot become a german citizen. As he told me, there are third and fourth generation Turks living in Germany, their parents and grandparents were born and raised in Germany and all they know is the German culture and in some cases, language, who are not German and if they break any laws, will get deported to Turkey. He does not agree with that, but there is little anybody can do to change the law. A lot of Europe is like that

German citizenship is passed on on the father side only. If your dad is German, then you can get it but not from your mother is German and your father is not.

sounds like the opposite with me. I am 1/16th Seneca, but I cannot claim tribal citizenship because it came from my Father not my Mother. they follow a Matrilineal linage

The stuff on german citizenship posted here is quite a bit out of date. German citizenship used to be based on only through the father until 1975 then it was either father or mother. Now you are also granted citizenship if your parents have a permanent residence permit and have been living in germany for at least 8 years

spitfirebill wrote: Why in the hell would France develop amphibious assault ships??? Don't forget they helped Iran in their nuclear program. Probably help india and pakistan too.

They are amphibious assault ships like what our marine corps use. They are more correctly Helicopter Carriers. And why do they have them? Some little known thing as NATO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral-class_amphibious_assault_ship

France has been very open about usage of the atom for peaceful purposes, and some other not so peaceful ones I'm sure. But as far as saying "well they armed all these bad people, blah blah blah" is somewhat closed minded. They were our intermediate for supplying Israel back when we couldn't be seen doing it.

fritzsch wrote:

mad_machine wrote:

Slippery wrote:

mad_machine wrote: Something a friend of mine was telling me. He is a native german, from Cologne, living here with his wife and children in the US. If you are not german by blood (meaning one of your parents had to be a german citizen) you cannot become a german citizen. As he told me, there are third and fourth generation Turks living in Germany, their parents and grandparents were born and raised in Germany and all they know is the German culture and in some cases, language, who are not German and if they break any laws, will get deported to Turkey. He does not agree with that, but there is little anybody can do to change the law. A lot of Europe is like that

German citizenship is passed on on the father side only. If your dad is German, then you can get it but not from your mother is German and your father is not.

sounds like the opposite with me. I am 1/16th Seneca, but I cannot claim tribal citizenship because it came from my Father not my Mother. they follow a Matrilineal linage

The stuff on german citizenship posted here is quite a bit out of date. German citizenship used to be based on only through the father until 1975 then it was either father or mother. Now you are also granted citizenship if your parents have a permanent residence permit and have been living in germany for at least 8 years

I don't doubt it, my friend has not lived in Germany for 8 or so years now. I posted the info up more as a "here is how they can get disenfranchised" thought