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NickD
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4/15/25 12:22 p.m.

So, in addition to the C430 that the Adirondack has acquired, apparently they are leasing seven Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm coaches from CTRail, still in the orange and black paint. Certainly an odd acquisition. I'm curious if it's just to expand the coach fleet, or if they've got a bunch of the old CN/VIA cars that are too used up or worn out to keep operating. With the four Finger Lakes Railway coaches they bought this winter, that expands their coach fleet by 11 cars.

Photos by DeAndre Walters

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4/15/25 12:45 p.m.

There's also been photos of the upgrades going on at the Adirondack's northern terminus of Tupper Lake. Last year, they weren't actually able to run all the way to the station, wih the major overhaul going on up there. The trains ran north to Sabattis, and then they ran one locomotive around to the other end there, and they ran push-pull to Tupper Lake, since they couldn't access the station and runaround track to get power on the south end.

The first photo is looking south, and you can see the new concrete platform, and the runaround track off to the right. They are also building an awning for the platform, and that's what's covered with plastic.

Looking north, you can see another awning on the platform. To the right is the incomplete south leg of the wye that is being raised up out of the earth. When I went to Tupper in 2022 for the first trip, I literally stumbled across that wye, because it was that grown over. It's hard to find on Google Maps unless you know where to look, and the last time anything was turned on it was back in '04. Those who were there when they turned C424 #4243 on it mentioned that the MoW guys had more gauge rods than ties in the wye, and they still derailed at least once. To the left, behind the tree line is a future shop facility, so that stuff that's up at the north end can be worked on without having to be run down to Utica. 

 

NickD
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4/15/25 12:52 p.m.

The state construction plans for Tupper Lake

NickD
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4/15/25 4:42 p.m.

Tupper Lake was, once upon a time, Tupper Lake Junction, where the Mohawk & Malone (later the New York Central's Adirondack Division) met the obscure New York & Ottawa (earlier the Northern Adirondack Railroad and Northern New York Railroad, later the equally obscure New York Central Ottawa Division) at the NY&O's southern terminus.

The Northern Adirondack Railroad was chartered February 9th, 1883 to extend from the Ogdensburg and Lake Champlain Railroad (later the west end of the Rutland) at Moira, NY southeast to St. Regis Falls, NY. It was extended further south to Santa Clara, NY in 1885 but those rails remained inactive after completion.

The Northern Adirondack Extension Railroad was chartered on February 17, 1886, to take over the existing but inactive rails between St. Regis Falls and Santa Clara, as well as to continue to extend the Northern Adirondack Railroad southeast to Tupper Lake. Tupper Lake was home to what was the largest saw mill in the US at the time, and Seward Webb's Mohawk & Malone was still six years from even beginning construction north from Herkimer through Tupper Lake and roads through the Adirondacks were practically nonexistent, so this was prime pickings for a railroad.

Right across the border at Cornwall, Ontario, politicians were planning the Ontario Pacific Railway. And that's basically all they did from 1882 until 1897. A number of plans were discussed of a railroad headed west from Cornwall, with the final ambitious plan being that the proposal would follow a route west from Cornwall to Embrun to Richmond to Perth to Lake St. Peter to French River to Sault Ste. Marie, but no construction ever began.

The Northern Adirondack Railroad went into receivership on January 25, 1894. On May 25, 1895, the railroad was sold to a business syndicate and two days later was renamed the Northern New York Railroad. The driving force behind the Northern New York Railroad, Charles Hibbard, planned to extend further southeast from Tupper Lake to Axton Landing. From that point, the D&H had planned to extend its Adirondack Branch, which terminated at North Creek, to Axton Landing under the Northern Adirondack Extension Railroad charter. Hibbard's trains were to have trackage rights to Saratoga Springs, and then on to New York City. Hibbard also planned to build northward into Canada. At first, the plan was to take over the Saratoga & St. Lawrence Railroad and then head to St. Regis in Quebec, and then from there, Hibbard's line would build to Ottawa. From June 11 to July 30, 1896, the Northern New York Railroad operated the Saratoga & St. Lawrence Railroad, but for unknown reasons Hibbard was not pleased with it, and instead, he planned to build northward from Moira himself, and a new company was created to do so. After meeting Dr. Darby Bergin from the Ontario Pacific Railway, Hibbard formed a partnership with him and these two railroaders planned to connect Ottawa to the Adirondack line. With that merger and the D&H extension to Axton Landing and trackage rights, the Northern New York would connect Ottawa to New York City. 

Bergin renamed the Ontario Pacific Railway to the Ottawa & New York Railway and began construction from Ottawa to Cornwall, as well as to construct a bridge crossing over the St. Lawrence River at Cornwall. Construction began on August 23rd, 1897 and was quickly completed, opening on July 29, 1898. Meanwhile, Hibbard formed the New York & Ottawa Railroad to build from the northwest terminus of the Northern New York Railroad at Moira up to the St. Lawrence River to connect to the Ottawa & New York. On October 28th, 1897 the Northern New York was merged into the New York and Ottawa. The NY&O acquired the O&NY's stock on June 13th, 1898 and on September 28th of that year, the line in New York was completed, running to the St. Lawrence River at Roosesveltown, NY. The extension south from Tupper Lake to Axton Landing, as well as the D&H's northward extension from North Creek to Axton Landing never came to pass, although the NY&O began construction south of Tupper Lake Junction (where the NY&O met the NYC Adirondack Division) was started. Environmental preservationists were not fond of the idea of a second railroad being built through the forest, and the NYC, who brooked no intrusions in their territory, likely applied influence to bar construction as well. Thus, Hibbard's hopes of connecting to New York City never occurred under his ownership. The entire route from Ottawa to Tupper Lake was finally operating on October 1, 1900, after the company entered receivership on April 25, 1900.

The New York & Ottawa Railroad company was sold to New York Central interests on December 22, 1904 and became the New York & Ottawa Railway on January 19, 1905. This was followed by the company being leased to the New York Central on February 1 and renamed to the Ottawa Division. This actually ended up accomplishing Hibbard's goals, albeit under a different routing, since one could then take an NY&O train from Ottawa to Tupper Lake, hop an Adirondack Division train from Tupper Lake to Herkimer, and then transfer onto a mainline train at Herkimer to go to New York City. 

The Ottawa Division seems to have never been particularly busy or profitable, and I have to imagine that NYC acquired less out of thinking it would be a huge moneymaker and more out of their imperious attitude of squashing any possible competitor in their region. The line was abandoned from Tupper Lake Junction to Helena on May 6, 1937, and then from Rooseveltown (Akwesane) to Ottawa on March 22, 1957, leaving just 5 miles between Helena and Rooseveltown that is still in service to this day under CSX. The bridges over the St. Lawrence River at Cornwall were removed to make room for the St. Lawrence Seaway, with the south span removed in 1958 and the north span removed in 1965. Meanwhile, Canadian National purchased the Canadian portion of the route in April 1957, specifically to yank up the rails to use to build a new hump yard in Montreal.

 

New York & Ottawa 4-4-0 #3 at Tupper Lake sometime between 1897 and 1905.

NickD
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4/16/25 10:15 a.m.

Adirondack Railroad #430 has been spotted on the move east, being handled by CSX.

NickD
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4/16/25 11:12 a.m.

Hopefully the #430 will be at Utica this Saturday. Adirondack is running their Holland Patent-Remsen trains for Easter this Saturday, and I'm planning to go get photos (The first time I'll have been trackside since early February). Wouldn't mind seeing the #430 and the CTRail coaches, although I know they won't be using them. 

NickD
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4/16/25 1:32 p.m.

I've also got the Dynamo Productions charter on the Arcade & Attica in three weeks, which will be a 12-hour event (10am-10pm) with both RS-3u #114 and 2-8-0 #18. Since it's a Sunday, and a three-hour drive one way to Arcade, the plan is to head out Sunday morning and spend the night there, then head home Monday. Since Monday will be a free day, I'm planning to hit up somewhere on the way back. I'm a little torn right now. My two options are to go to the Livonia, Avon & Lakeville and try and get some more photos of the Alcos, or head further east to Geneva and follow Finger Lakes Railway road freight GS-2 to Syracuse. Geographically, FGLK makes the most sense, since they're train is headed the direction I need to go in and they leave Geneva at 10am. Meanwhile, LA&L hits the road at noon and runs north-south between Lakeville and Rochester. Buuuuut I feel like if I miss out on the chance to see the LA&L Alcos in action, I might not get another chance, since their days are numbered.

NickD
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4/17/25 11:14 a.m.

This morning I woke up to see a GoFundMe to get Adirondack Railroad's NYC RS-3 #8255 up and running this season. According to the fundraiser, they were able to complete a substantial amount of work in 2024, even getting so far as starting #8255 last year. However, in order to return to service and be a reliable, regularly in service locomotive on the High Peaks Division, they need to complete several tasks including but not limited to: 1) Sourcing New Batteries; 2) Updating Air Valves; 3) An Oil Change, Sample, Etc. The #8255 is particularly noteworthy because RS-3s handled the bulk of service on the Adirondack Division, and there is actual documentation of the #8255 working on the Adirondack Division. They're hoping to raise $10k with the fundraiser.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-return-nyc-8255-to-service-55-in-25?lang=en_US&utm_campaign=man_sharesheet_dash&utm_content=amp13_c-amp15_c&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link&attribution_id=sl%3A88dbdc70-ba59-47b1-8c82-5c55220a01a0&fbclid=IwY2xjawJt-WJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHt3ebBCMRn09m9RTnbVQk_ozfV3tAX4Bpu6eRgzhrcsja59syACGzqWzYO3A_aem_Fmml9dzlJFSkLETIgatjzg

NickD
NickD MegaDork
4/17/25 12:12 p.m.

In a locale completely divorced from the windy, hilly, 45mph single-track Adirondack Division, the #8255 is taking off from North White Plains, NY on the 4-track Harlem Division on September 1st, 1966.

NickD
NickD MegaDork
4/17/25 12:41 p.m.

Cuyahoga Valley Scenic announced last year, with the acquisition of an A-B set of FPA-4s from Grand Canyon, that they wished to be the largest preserved collection of operating Alcos. They currently have:

  • C420 #365 (In service but repowered with a "green" 1500hp MTU power plant)
  • FPA-4 #6771 (Out of service)
  • FPA-4 #6773 (In service)
  • FPA-4 #6777 (Out of service)
  • FPA-4 #6780 (Out of service)
  • FPB-4 #6871 (Out of serrvice)

So, six Alcos, only two in service, and one of the two in service is no longer Alco-powered. They had two RS-18s and a C424 but they sent those to Larry's Truck & Electric last year. Adirondack beats them in total number, and number operational.

  • C430 #430 (Being delivered)
  • RS-18u #1835 (In service)
  • RS-18u #1845 (Technically in service, but a problem child)
  • C424 #2400 (In service)
  • M420W #3574 (In service)
  • RS-3 #8223 (Out of service, tied up in legal issue)
  • RS-3 #8255 (Out of service, undergoing work)
  • S-2 #9411 (Out of service, was looked at last year)

That's eight total, with four in service currently and potentially six later this year.

NickD
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4/17/25 1:40 p.m.
NickD said:

The plot at Wilmington & Western continues to thicken.

This weekend there was a post describing how they valued the railroad's volunteers and stating that the railroad needed to make repairs to Trestle 9C and the wheels and axles of ex-B&O SW-1 #8408. Shortly after that post was a made, a number of volunteers made some negative comments on the post, and the entire official W&W Railroad Facebook page has apparently been deleted. Yikes.

Continuing to get uglier here. Recently, the Board of Directors listing on the website change. Reportedly the member of BoD that is no longer listed "resigned after attempting to vote down and oppose whatever the BoD was planning next. He came to the protest to support his fellow volunteers."

Another comment from someone in the know indicates "the person that stepped down was the last remaining 'voice' on the BOD in support of W&WRR to get back to its HRCV mission “to preserve and interpret the natural, cultural and railroad heritage of northern Delaware, and specifically the features of the Red Clay Valley, for the education and enjoyment of the public"."

Honestly, folks, this continues to look worse and worse for the future of the railroad.

NickD
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4/18/25 11:04 a.m.

A pretty amusing photo that popped up on Facebook of a GP9 that had been acquired from UP by the Great Western of Colorado some time around the photo date of September 30th, 1986. A shopworker had comedically altered the UP slogan on the cab side.

NickD
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4/21/25 12:26 p.m.

Well, didn't end up getting any photos of the Adirondack's Easter Trains. I went out to Utica in the early morning and it was light overcast. Poked around Utica Yard, saw the #430 and new CTRail coaches, and they had the #3573 and #2400 ready in push-pull service. Before they even left Utica, the sky got really dark, but I drove up to Marcy to wait for them at Old Edic Road. It sprinkled on and off while waiting, and then by the time they passed and I headed for Holland Patent, the skies turned black and it absolutely downpoured and showed no signs of letting up, so I headed for home.

NickD
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4/21/25 12:43 p.m.
NickD said:

Also, Catskill Mountain Railroad, who already lost a chunk of their active line to the rail trail crowd, has been fighting the rail trail advocates again this year. They've been hoping to rehabilitate another 1.67 miles west of their current end of operations to extend their line. Well, the Woodstock Land Conservancy and Open Space Institute have laid eyes on that 1.67 miles for addition to the trail system that already stole a good chunk of rail that Catskill Mountain had been operating on. From the CMRR's Facebook page, "The previous meeting in February they were working on a resolution proposing Rail With Trail. This time they completely turned around and proposed that the CMRR could cross Rt 28A with enough track west for the train to clear the crossing and then start the trail from there. No extension, no Basin Road terminal and they tried to take it to a vote. The result of a handpicked committee being lead by an Ulster County Legislator who has been trying to kill the CMRR for almost two decades. Fortunately one committee member stopped the vote and called for more information. They will meet again on April 24th."

The Catskill Mountain situation has continued to develop.

Last fall, the announced that they had won three state grants. The grants were from the Passenger and Freight Rail Assistance Program and totaled nearly $4.5 million. They were to 1) build an enginehouse for the train near the rail line’s start at Kingston Plaza, 2) to upgrade their operating RS-1's 539T to run on 100% bio-diesel and return their other RS-1 to service with some sort of eco-friendly prime mover, and 3) to construct a terminal near the Ashokan Reservoir.

Now, those grants are in question, since Ulster County needed to cosign parts of one of the grant applications for it to be valid. The county would not comply, but the Catskill Mountain Railroad applied for the cash anyway and was awarded $667,000 in state funds. The money for the terminal was suspended before it was paid out after Ulster County notified the state about issues with the grant. It shows the attitude within the county that one of their attractions (voted top county attraction two years ago) is eligible to receive a grant and the country refused to sign.

Additionally, Catskill Mountain Railroad has no claim on the land leading to the site of the proposed terminal. The company has a permit from Ulster County to operate on land from Kingston to within 1.8 miles of the terminal site and has a lease with a private property owner where the terminal would be built. But the company would need land rights to the 1.8-mile section to connect the two areas if it wants to extend its operation to the terminal. CMRR had spoke with the state DOT about granting the land rights, but the county would have to sign off on it (any guesses how they would respond?) and that the state can only give these rail grants to entities that lease or have permits on the project sites if the entity has at least a 10-year agreement with the landowner, in this case, Ulster County. But the Catskill Mountain Railroad only has a five-year permit. 

When asked why he applied for a grant for a terminal that the company’s trains had no way of getting to, Catskill Mountain Railroad President Ernie Hunt suggested he didn’t want the opportunity to pass him by. “Those grants come up, and if you miss them, you miss them,” he said. Hunt said he had communicated with the county about his plans to apply for the grant and the county "didn’t say no,” he said. “They didn’t say anything.”

Further, on April 8th the Woodstock Land Conservancy along with the Chairman of the Ulster County U&D Corridor Committee gave a presentation to the Hurley Town Board proposing trail-only to Basin Road. They also tried to get a resolution passed by the Board. The CMRR was in attendance and called foul on this backdoor plan and asked for equal time to make their own presentation. 

I'd love to see CMRR win, but it just looks like the county's attitude is too hostile, and the trail activists have too much political and financial horsepower.

NickD
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4/21/25 1:41 p.m.

Better new on another segment of the old "Up & Down", the Delaware & Ulster will be resuming operation this May, the first time that the the D&URR has operated since 2019. The D&U, which owns an isolated segment of the Ulster & Delaware farther west than Catskill Mountain Railroad, shut down after the '19 season to perform maintenance to the equipment and the roadbed. Covid, and the following inflation, had forced the D&U to stretch their overhaul program out and the past four years have been a case of "We hope to be running later this year" in the spring and "We hope to be running next year" in the fall. I was worried they weren't going to reopen, or that the trail crowd was going to start using their shutdown as cause to convert the line to trail.

Well, they're not only back, they're running in new direction. Catskill Revitalization Corporation purchased a segment of the U&D from Penn Central in 1980 and owns the former U&D railbed between Highmount and Bloomville, NY, a total of 45 miles. The Hubbell Corners-Bloomville segment was abandoned and converted to a trail, and D&URR's operations are currently limited to the Arkville-Roxbury segment. The northern Roxbury-Hubbell Corners segment remains out of service, and the eastern Arkville-Highmount segment was never used either. Well, this year, trains will be traveling east from Arkville towards Fleischmanns and eventually to Highmount.  As stated by the railroad, this will make for a ‘new’ experience for those who only remember the train rides running since 2001 from Arkville to Halcottsville and Roxbury, and D&U officials are sure that riders will be amazed by the experience of riding this "somewhat forgotten but breathtakingly scenic stretch of the tracks".

I am very excited to see the D&U return to operation since the U&D was a pretty neat piece of railroading, and the D&U operates with D&H RS-36 #5017, which was the last active Alco onn D&H property (finally sold off in '93), and the last NYO&W NW-2 in known existence, the #116. They also have a full stainless-steel passenger consist with a dome car (ex-MoPac) and a round-end observation car (ex-NYC).

 

NickD
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4/21/25 4:43 p.m.

One of the more fascinating points of the Ulster & Delaware was a double horseshoe curve on the line between Highmount and Pine Hill as a way to make a steep climb in a short distance. Even then, there was a grade of 3-3.5% between Big Indian and Pine Hill, and the light rail and tight curves precluded large motive power (the U&D operated primarily with 4-6-0s through the end of NYC steam), and so it required doubleheading and helpers. I've even seen a clip of an old film where an excursion that was big enough to require two sections took the West Shore up to Kingston and then hopped on the U&D, and because of the length and weight of the train, the two sections ended up being split into 5 separate trains to traverse the "Up & Down", each of which took three 4-6-0s on the head-end. The voiceover noted that there was a flurry of activity as the superintendent attempted to get 15 locomotives fired up and ready to go over the line to Oneonta. Google Maps shows the rails still there, but I'm not sure if that's true or not, or maybe just the crossings have been ripped up and paved up. Either way, the line hasn't seen a train since '76, and there was talk of making it a trail as recently as 4 years ago. Even those who were fairly anti-trail said that while it would be nice to operate over it, it's really not feasible due to the grade (you'd need lots of power and good dynamic brakes) and degradation of the roadbed, and the grade also made it unsuitable for railbikes.

NickD
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4/22/25 3:18 p.m.

Southern Pacific GS-2 #4414 crosses over the diamonds in Los Angeles, California as it departs with train number 2, the eastbound Sunset Limited, bound for New Orleans, Lousiana on August 1st, 1940. At this point the San Francisco-LA segment was still part of the route, removed two years later and never reinstated. This was a roughly 2500 mile trip of over 50 hours in length, with a routing was San Francisco-LA-Palm Springs-Yuma-Phoenix-Tucson-El Paso-San Antonio-Galveston-Houston-New Orleans. The Sunset Limited is the oldest named train in the United States, operating since November 1894.

NickD
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4/23/25 11:19 a.m.

Another terrific Otto Perry photo of the Sunset Limited, literally a day later than the one above, this time led by GS-3 #4425 at Glendale, CA. I much prefer the earlier GS-2s and GS-3s over the GS-4s, like #4449, largely due to the single-headlight smokebox door. There's just something I don't like about the GS-4s and GS-5s with the headlight and Mars ligh built into the smokebox. Also note the air horn poking out of the fireman's side of the skyline casing. 

NickD
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4/23/25 4:35 p.m.

The #4449 as she looked when rescued from Oak Park in 1974. Missing the streamlining, wearing workaday black, rusty, faded, vandalized, probably her only saving grace was that a railfan named Jack Holst would go to the park regularly and and lubricated the bearing journals and rods, keeping them oiled in the hopes that it would one day be restored (he also did the same thing to SP&S #700, also on display at Oak Park). While she looked rough, the running gear was all free and operated as it should when she was removed from service, and made restoring the engine on the very tight timeline much more feasible. When Al Phillips, Doyle McCormack, Ross Rowland and the late Wes Camp dreamed of using the 4449 for the AFT, they had no idea of what Jack Holst had been doing over all those years, and sadly Holst would pass away before he ever saw the #4449 run again. 

NickD
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4/25/25 12:01 p.m.

I took a mental health day and called in sick to work to go out to Utica to chase NYS&W UT-1. I'd seen that leased CSX power had shown up and they'd been pre-staging cars in what was the old O&W Canal Branch Yard alongside the North-South Arterial, so that means that the big spring traffic surge to Sangerfield has kicked off. The forecast called for sun and 70 degree temps, and I hadn't been trackside in nearly 3 months, so let's go.

Arriving at Utica, I could see that the Susquehanna's yard on the west end was crammed full of hopper cars and boxcars. While waiting, an Amtrak Empire Service train rolled in behind P32AC-DM #704 in the Amtrak Phase II paint that much better suits the Genesis.

NickD
NickD MegaDork
4/25/25 12:06 p.m.

Mohawk, Adirondack & Northern was switching their end of the yard as well, working huge cuts of LPG tankers. I believe these are eventually headed up too storage on the old Utica & Black River/NYC St. Lawrence Division above Boonville, NY. The ghost of BCRail was present, with their M420W 2045 in BCRail red, white and blue and C425 #2455 in BCRail two-tone green. I really considered hanging around to see if they went out on the road, but I've been burned by the MA&N before, where they spend the whole day switching the yard and never leave. Later on, I would bump into another railfan who confirmed my decisions, saying that they had gone north the day before and usually didn't go north two days in a road, and also that if they're headed up above Boonville, they usually hit the road early in the morning.

NickD
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4/25/25 12:08 p.m.

The only two MLW M420Ws in NY, side by side. There was one other, the #3560 out to Ontario Midland, but that has since been sold to GVT and moved down to the Delaware-Lackawanna in Scranton, PA.

NickD
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4/25/25 12:09 p.m.

An interesting shot with two M420Ws, a C425 and two RS-18us, plus a couple CSX GEs roaring by on a westbound double-stack.

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4/25/25 12:35 p.m.

Show time! I was surprised by the presence of four other railfans set up along Schuyler Street. Usually when I shoot UT-1, I'm the only guy out there, other than the occasional run-in with Mr. Railroading Rambler himself, John Koslosky. I'm guessing the weather and the spring traffic surge brought out some new faces. I was glad to have others around while on Schuyler Street, since that's a rough neighborhood. Strength in numbers, and all that.

The green tower at the far end was an old structure on the Erie Canal that the DL&W purchased and mounted on that pole in 1952. There was a switch panel in there that controlled all the crossing lights and traffic signals down the 0.6 mile street-running. An operator would have to trigger the crossing gates and turn the traffic lights to red, and then disable them, in sequence as the train approached and cleared the intersections. This was a position right up until 1987, when the Susquehanna automated it all.

Doug Ellison tells a story involving that tower in his book on the DL&W Utica Division. He hung around the E-L guys enough that he was basically an honorary employee, just without any pay. He was passing by the one day and the tower operator had an "Oh E36 M3" moment and wasn't sure if the submarine switch for the F.X. Matt brewery was set, so he asked Doug to man the tower while he went to check the switch, since an E-L train was due through soon. He gets up in the tower, watches the operator drive down to the switch, and while he's up there, both a train approaches and an E-L official shows up and starts talking to the tower operator. So Doug was sitting up there activating the crossings and wondering when the E-L official was going to wonder, "If the tower operator is down here, but the crossing guards are operating, who is up in the tower?" Fortunately, he never put 2 and 2 together, since it likely would have gotten the operator in serious trouble. 

NickD
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4/25/25 12:40 p.m.

Normally I follow the train down Schuyler Street, only getting a single location, but this time I went over a block and then zipped ahead of them and caught them passing the intersection of Knox and Schuyler.

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