J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
4/15/25 4:07 p.m.

I found this interesting - a scale to determining how sleepy are you.

Epworth Sleepiness Scale | Sleep Medicine

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
4/15/25 4:59 p.m.

Yes.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Tech Editor & Production Manager
4/15/25 5:02 p.m.

Yeah I have to do one of these whenever I go see my sleep guy. It's pretty amazing to compare my results pre- and post-CPAP.

TravisTheHuman
TravisTheHuman MegaDork
4/15/25 6:10 p.m.

Most of those are zero for me... but laying down in the afternoon- who wouldn't doze off???

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
4/15/25 6:47 p.m.

Are there negative numbers associated with this scale?

Cooper_Tired
Cooper_Tired Dork
4/15/25 6:56 p.m.

I am tired 

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe PowerDork
4/15/25 7:11 p.m.

Lately I have been so tired my brain will not let me sleep. I feel broken. 

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
4/16/25 8:05 a.m.

I don't need a scale to tell me how sleepy I am...insomnia has me at 2 to 4 hours a night these days.  

Jerry
Jerry PowerDork
4/16/25 8:26 a.m.

I'm not sure tired = sleepy?  Like I'm always tired but can't really take naps, not sure how well I sleep at night (possibly related?).  I got tested for testosterone levels about 10-12 year ago, along with blood tests to check other possibilities like diabetes.  Said T was low, did the cream for awhile but not sure it did much, stopped after about a year or two.

(Scored a 7 on this test, guess I'm "normal".)

llysgennad
llysgennad HalfDork
4/16/25 5:20 p.m.

I tried to take the test, but I fell asleep...

Just kidding, I don't nap or doze off. Hard "0" score for anything before 8pm. A couple might have a chance at being a "1" before 11pm, my normal bedtime. 

90BuickCentury
90BuickCentury Reader
4/16/25 5:34 p.m.

I scored maybe a 1 on like 2 of them and 0 on most. I'm tired/exhausted most of the time, but not sleepy I guess. 

Ranger50
Ranger50 MegaDork
4/16/25 11:03 p.m.

I work nightshift. I'm perpetually tired/sleepy.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
4/17/25 4:34 a.m.

It's not tired. It's not sleepy. Its exhaustion.  Complete, total ,  chronic exhaustion.

Paris Van Gorder
Paris Van Gorder Associate editor
4/17/25 9:54 a.m.

Sleep is weird for me. I can sleep eight or nine hours and feel like trash when I wake up. But, if only get three or four hours? I feel like superman. I wonder if this scale can explain why.

Edit:
So I scored a 15 on the test thing and it recommends that I should see a sleep medicine specialist to diagnose and treat the cause of my sleepiness.

Life, life is the cause of my sleepiness. 

Marjorie Suddard
Marjorie Suddard General Manager
4/17/25 10:05 a.m.
Appleseed said:

It's not tired. It's not sleepy. Its exhaustion.  Complete, total ,  chronic exhaustion.

I kept acing these questionnaires, so my docs kept treating my chronic exhaustion as other things. Finally got a new rheumatologist, who said Who did your sleep study? and when I said No one, he said, I'm scheduling one now.

Turns out I spent nearly an hour cumulatively every night not breathing. Got a CPAP, and I feel like a different person. Bonus is that I have already dropped two medications that, it turns out, I didn't need. And after a year or so of treatment, my brain will have largely repaired the injury (an actual result of severe apnea) and I'll no longer die 10 or 12 years sooner than I would have.

So this morning's PSA is that severe sleep apnea doesn't always present as sleepiness, and it has far-ranging effects that absolutely include premature death. If you're struggling with chronic fatigue, brain fog... get a sleep test. I did mine at home, and it's no big deal, covered by insurance, and can change your life.

Recon1342
Recon1342 UltraDork
4/17/25 10:57 a.m.

Whoo Hoo!!!

I'm finally a 10!!!!

 

Oh, wait...

1kris06
1kris06 HalfDork
4/19/25 9:56 a.m.
Cooper_Tired said:

I am tired 

spandak
spandak Dork
4/20/25 12:55 a.m.

Hmm. But what if sleeping is hard? I won't fall asleep in a car someone else is driving and TV keeps me up. But I feel pretty damn tired. 
 

There should be a yes/no question. Do you have a child under 1. 

Yes. 
 

You're sleepy. 

TravisTheHuman
TravisTheHuman MegaDork
4/20/25 9:00 a.m.
spandak said:

Hmm. But what if sleeping is hard? I won't fall asleep in a car someone else is driving and TV keeps me up. But I feel pretty damn tired. 
 

There should be a yes/no question. Do you have a child under 1. 

Yes. 
 

You're sleepy. 

That's a good point... doesn't matter how tired I am, sleeping in a car or on an airplane is extremely unlikely to happen (I wish it could though)

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