I am doing a model in 3d and I have maxed the capability of my current card ( RTX2060 Super) and my research said that I really need to get a Quadro card and that the p4000 is the sweet spot for what I am doing. Are there other newer / better or better $$$/performance cards out there that I should be looking at?
Thanks!!!
This should give you some useful info:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-buying-guide,5844.html
I don't think either article mentions the P4000 specifically though.
The ones on the list in the second Tom's Hardware article look mostly like general purpose/gaming graphics cards. Quadros et al are a bit more specialised for "professional" use cases and have special drivers for CAD software.
I'd look into what the newest Quadro is that the budget will bear and take it from there.
How many parts in an average aassembly, solidoworks orther software? P4000 should do almost everything you could ever need.
I was going to get a P4000 but instead went with a GeForce RTX 2080.
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Quadro-P4000-vs-GeForce-RTX-2080/3719vs3989
You sure it's your video card? Are you running out of ram?
Not sure what all you're doing, but I have a lowly GeForce GTX 1060 with its own 6gb and I can't do more than it will handle. I can load (and have loaded) the entire Empire State building in 3d CAD, and still had enough left over to edit 4K HD videos.
Are you looking at 3d rendering of the Atlantic ocean? :)
Most of the PC's here at my work that are doing 3D and CAM work are using the P4000.
The issue is that the GPU can not keep up with the number of objects in the model. With out going into a couple of blocks to get an exact count I am dealing with a model that has somewhere close to 6000 objects in it. Then if you X Reference it in to a drawing that has a second X Reference with another 2000 objects in that model things slow down to the point that my card gives up.
I just did a little snooping around and it looks like the RTX series of cards are not certified by Autodesk to work. I see that there may be a problem with the specific architecture of the cards. There does not appear to be any Touring architecture cards that are recommend by Autodesk for AutoCAD 2017 where as based Pascal cards seem to be the card of choice. This could be the reason why my 2060 super is giving up the ghost even through it is a relatively decent general purpose card because of its architecture adn AutoCAD 2017 not being designed to use it it falls way short in this particular application.
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Those lists are consumer cards for general purpose use including gaming and what not I am needing to step over in to the professional cards that are designed for workstations. They probably can not run fortnight or roblox much above 30 FPS but they can handel professional rendering and what not fantastically. More looking around and it actually appears that the hardware features needed on the RTX series has been crippled making them not good at professional applications while accelerating at gaming and what not. I assume this is to keep the market for the Quadro and Titan cards that are eye watering expensive. But they are optimized for this kind of work adn businesses will pay for it (as I will) because my time is money and if it saves me 4 hours of work time over the course of a project it ahs paid for its self. Getting a couple P4000 cards will probably pay for its self in a matter of a week of increased productivity for me and a couple of my employees that do this stuff allot.
It is very interesting when you step over in to these cards as cards that work for solid works really well may only be "ok" for AutoCAD and a card that is really good at AutoCAD may only boe "ok" for 3ds and yet both AutoCAD and 3ds are made by Autodesk. Really interesting.
P4000 was overkill for the SolidWorks models I work on, but it should fix your issues. I think any decent workstation card that is approved by Autodesk for your PC's configuration should work better than the gaming card you were using.
When I looked into the "authorized vs. consumer" cards it seemed to revolve around the drivers being certified, not specific card architect differences. It seemed to me a way for the certifier to say, "these work, the other 500 cards we're not going to spend the time to find out, so if you're getting weird issues, it's not our problem." Your program might benefit from more CPU cores or RAM rather than GPU.
Quadro P4000 is probably what you want, but also note that the supply chain is indicating that Nvidia is rolling out next-gen cards in March so there will likely be a new king of the hill within the year.
You can probably get a good amount of $$$ back from your 2060 Super by selling used, that is a very good card for gaming. I am still on a 1070ti myself.
Without knowing more about your computers and models it's a little hard to give advice, but I will anyway...
AutoCAD, REVIT, and SolidWorks are ALL frequency-bound programs that use a single core for most of the work, the faster the better. Graphics cards are important, but not to the exclusion of other components. The "professional" cards like the Quadro or Radeon Pro are better at the calculations needed for precise cad work, but gaming cards will generally do the job if the computer matches the workload. If you do a lot of rendering, they will blow the PRO cards away, but that also needs more cores.
Examples: My wife is an Architect and CAD manager, so she talks about this all the time. Most of the computers there are running SSDs, decent amt of RAM, and 1080Ti cards. She designs MASSIVE buildings, mainly in REVIT, but also in AutoCAD for some clients. Rendering is done on separate dedicated machines. Meanwhile, I use SolidWorks every day on a computer I specced and built 6 years ago for less than $1800. It benchmarked in the top 10% then, and still does everything fine today. Some of my assemblies are in the thousands of components and dozens of sub-assemblies. I have a lowly Quadro K600. A coworker bought a generic pc without a GC and it was fine for most things.
Looking at the website for BOXX systems can be enlightening. I know they write their own drivers and OC and all that, but they recommend the same system for all three of these applications. But rarely more than a P2000 card.
Just my 2 cents worth
meanwhile local version of Sketchup now require a discrete GPU.
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