Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
7/25/17 11:31 a.m.

That's all. My trailer tires are 14 months old. Had a blowout a few weeks ago so i used my spare. Other side looked fine. Just lost it. No spare, an hour from home and too far from anywhere to get a tire. Was just at Home derpot but too far to turn back. My mom is bringing me a new tire from tractor supply . Classic murphy's law, i have a spare for the other trailer, different bolt pattern

Lesson learned: public service announcement- WDT china brand trailer tires are good for 12 months, 13 is pushing it, 14 is right out.

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair UltimaDork
7/25/17 11:35 a.m.

That is super lame.

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
7/25/17 11:48 a.m.

I've come to the conclusion that tires made for trailers are garbage and truck tires are way better. I have truck tires on both other trailers. This is my 12' enclosed work trailer, so instead of getting my job done early and screwing around all afternoon with the kids, i'll be coming home in rush hour traffic again. At least my customer is cool, when i let her know why i'm super late she asked if she could come help.

John Welsh
John Welsh MegaDork
7/25/17 11:53 a.m.

Suckzors

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett MegaDork
7/25/17 12:07 p.m.

In reply to Patrick:

Hmm, I'd better check the brand of my trailer tires(and inspect them very closely). I replaced them about a year ago & I'm hauling it up to IL this weekend...

pinchvalve
pinchvalve MegaDork
7/25/17 12:11 p.m.

So the ½" cracks in the side of my jetski trailer are cause for concern?

759NRNG
759NRNG HalfDork
7/25/17 12:14 p.m.

Pvlv., nah.......go for it ...........live a little. Then tell us all about in 'Trips and Adventures'.

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
7/25/17 12:36 p.m.
Patrick wrote: I've come to the conclusion that tires made for trailers are garbage and truck tires are way better. I have truck tires on both other trailers.

Relevant to this commentary. What IS the difference between ST tires and passcar/truck tires? The straightest answer I ever got was some mumbling about stiffer sidewalls, which may have been true in the 70s but certainly not today.

I've also heard that the sidewalls were softer.

Woody
Woody MegaDork
7/25/17 12:36 p.m.

Watch out for Chinese valve stems too. The ones on my trailer tires dry rotted in less than a year.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
7/25/17 12:48 p.m.

I am convinced that the Chinese are flooding the world woth cheap inferior goods on purpose. Once all the goods fail in simultaneous fashion, they're going to invade with all of the good stuff they made for themselves with the profits.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler UberDork
7/25/17 12:58 p.m.

Seems like all trailer tires are crap at this point. In the RV community, it seems that there are two kinds of trailer tires: The ones that have exploded and the ones that are about to. I keep mine covered when the trailers are in storage, but I know it's just a matter of time.

Goodyear recently came out with these Endurance trailer tires that are a bit more costly than the Carlisles and others, but are made in the USA and are supposedly higher quality. When my next set ages out, I might try some.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltimaDork
7/25/17 1:32 p.m.

There are two things about trailer rules that piss me off. First is the utterly useless cable breakaway battery brake actuator doodad, and the second is tires. Put a decent set of radials on your trailer, and get a ticket..."Well boy, I don't care that the tires are better quality, last longer and have a higher load rating. They don't have the correct prefix on the size. Here's yer ticket."

Dr Ribs Revere
Dr Ribs Revere Reader
7/25/17 2:13 p.m.

Always have a spare...

759NRNG
759NRNG HalfDork
7/25/17 3:10 p.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: There are two things about trailer rules that piss me off. First is the utterly useless cable breakaway battery brake actuator doodad, and the second is tires. Put a decent set of radials on your trailer, and get a ticket..."Well boy, I don't care that the tires are better quality, last longer and have a higher load rating. They don't have the correct prefix on the size. Here's yer ticket."

"correct prefix" is this some sorta popo scheme to generate more revenue fer the county? Ain't herd of that right there.....

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
7/25/17 4:40 p.m.
Tom_Spangler wrote: Seems like all trailer tires are crap at this point. In the RV community, it seems that there are two kinds of trailer tires: The ones that have exploded and the ones that are about to. (...)When my next set ages out, I might try some.

I think I've identified something different between you, and the kind of RV people who have tire problems.

I've had RVs and travel trailers come in on tires that are over 20 years old. "But they still have full tread!" They're also dangerously old.

Just this week, we were supposed to do three tires on a horse trailer because he had a blowout and someone installed a "new" tire. Well, there was one tire that had full tread and three semi-worn, but they all had 2006 date codes stamped in the sidewalls. So we installed four tires. A shop somewhere installed a never-used eleven year old tire...

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
7/25/17 5:17 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
Tom_Spangler wrote: Seems like all trailer tires are crap at this point. In the RV community, it seems that there are two kinds of trailer tires: The ones that have exploded and the ones that are about to. (...)When my next set ages out, I might try some.

I think I've identified something different between you, and the kind of RV people who have tire problems.

I've had RVs and travel trailers come in on tires that are over 20 years old. "But they still have full tread!" They're also dangerously old.

Just this week, we were supposed to do three tires on a horse trailer because he had a blowout and someone installed a "new" tire. Well, there was one tire that had full tread and three semi-worn, but they all had 2006 date codes stamped in the sidewalls. So we installed four tires. A shop somewhere installed a never-used eleven year old tire...

that is a problem. I imagine not many tyre shops go through a lot of trailer rubber, so they use what they have around.

einy
einy HalfDork
7/25/17 7:27 p.m.
mndsm wrote: I am convinced that the Chinese are flooding the world woth cheap inferior goods on purpose. Once all the goods fail in simultaneous fashion, they're going to invade with all of the good stuff they made for themselves with the profits.

Ha! I'm convinced after working with multiple companies to help them bring production of "easy" parts back to the US from China that they are still a ways away from having a clue how to consistently make "good stuff".

Patrick
Patrick MegaDork
7/25/17 7:40 p.m.

Well, i had to work until 7 but got the job done. Now I have one brand new trailer tire and one almost new hankook car tire. Going to put the other hankook on and use the new one as spare. I did have my jack and impact and sockets.

My car trailer has regular pickup truck 235/75 15 tires and my 14k cargo trailer that i cart the datsun around in has e range general grabber truck tires. They are both infinitely better than any new trailer I've ever bought. I had 4 new trailer tires put on the car trailer about 14 years ago and they lasted 2 years. Ever since then I've been using used good brand pickup tires.

My mom saved the day.

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
7/26/17 1:34 p.m.

I did some reading up on using LT tyres instead of ST on a trailer. The amount of "this is how the company specced the trailer" talk was drowning out any and all useful information.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro PowerDork
7/26/17 2:03 p.m.

I came in here expecting country music.

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
7/26/17 5:10 p.m.

would you settle for Dueling Banjos?

Knurled
Knurled MegaDork
7/26/17 6:21 p.m.

In reply to mad_machine:

How about somebody playing with himself?

BrokenYugo
BrokenYugo MegaDork
7/26/17 6:33 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: I did some reading up on using LT tyres instead of ST on a trailer. The amount of "this is how the company specced the trailer" talk was drowning out any and all useful information.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=219

LT can be used at full sidewall load rating, P tires have to be derated. I think the whole "stiffer sidewalls" thing people love to parrot might be some misconception regarding how until recently most ST tires were bias ply, which have stiffer sidewalls because they're heavy duty bias ply tires.

EvanR
EvanR SuperDork
7/26/17 7:39 p.m.

My trailer came with 4.80x12 bias-ply tires. The sidewalls were so stiff that I had no idea the tires contained ZERO psi until I actually put a gauge on them.

Most of the trailer tires I've seen are rated to 50 or sometimes 60 mph. Americans tend to tow at faster speeds than that.

I seriously doubt any LEO would cite you for not using ST tires. However, if you have a blowout that causes severe damage and you're not on ST tires, your insurance company may have issues with the claim.

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