I called my mother yesterday for her birthday, and she related to me how when she went to buy wine at the local grocery store, it required her giving the clerk her driver's license, so they could swipe it through the reader.
Anyone else see how this could be very important information that places like insurance companies would pay to have?
"Mr. X, you bought entirely too much beer last month, we're going to raise your health and auto insurance rates accordingly."
That's actually to take the user error out of the equation when "carding" for alcohol... it's not reported to anything. 
"Sock Puppets" -> Now the Feds know to come shut down this thre.. <redacted>
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: That's actually to take the user error out of the equation when "carding" for alcohol... it's not reported to anything.
There's user error in that? 
"Mr. X, you bought entirely too much tin foil last month, we're going to raise your health and auto insurance rates accordingly."
MG Bryan wrote:92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: That's actually to take the user error out of the equation when "carding" for alcohol... it's not reported to anything.There's user error in that?
Yep. It used to be you didn't have to card anyone that looks like they're over 30. Then 40. Now every place around here cards EVERYONE just to cover their asses.
Are you wrinkly and white-haired? Too bad gramps, you're getting carded to make sure you're old enough.
Now, when underage sales were STILL happening (Buddy deals etc...), they're starting to move to not allowing a sale to go through unless a license is scanned. That's really all it is.
Your health insurance company doesn't know your driver's license number, so the first rhetorical scenario wouldn't happen anyways.
In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac: I understand that. My mother is 67, and has lived in that one stop-light town for 12 years now.
And grocery stores already use you credit/debit card info to send you coupons for the foods you buy. It's not all that far-fetched an idea.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: That's actually to take the user error out of the equation when "carding" for alcohol... it's not reported to anything.
...Yet.
GameboyRMH wrote:92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: That's actually to take the user error out of the equation when "carding" for alcohol... it's not reported to anything....Yet.
I think i'll freak out about until it happens, though!
The Rite Aid pharmacy 1 block from home scans ID. I do not buy alcohol there. The Rite Aid 1 mile from home does not scan. I make purchases there.
I'm just gonna leave this riiiiiiiiiiiiiight here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zh9fibMaEk
I haate when I go to a store with my wife, they ask to card both of us. That's usually when she's left her purse in the car, and there's a nice line of people I have to move to the back of. berkeleying bullE36 M3. I didn't see them card the 8 year old kid with grandpa who just checked out right in front of me.
We have that setup - only at grocery stores here in PA.
I am in my mid-40's. I have gray chest hair and gray stubble and I can't buy a 6-pack there w/o them scanning my ID at the Wiess Market. I went in last summer from the pool, in a bathing suit, dripping with no ID. I appealed to the guy using logic and reason... like "You are what 35? Do you think I'm really younger than you? How many underage drinkers have gray chest/ball hairs, chicken feet around their eyes or polio vaccine scars? He said "I know, I know... " and really swore he could not take my money w/o the scan. so I had to play frogger with traffic to cross the highway to the pizza place. 2 six packs to go no problem. berkeleying idiots. This is just another asshat zero tolerance policy. I'm glad it only hurts them. I vote with my wallet.
GameboyRMH wrote:92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: That's actually to take the user error out of the equation when "carding" for alcohol... it's not reported to anything....Yet.
And Walmart will probably be the leader. They have been a number of times in the past.
Don't take this stupid law out on the clerks, they don't have any control. A friend worked at a carry out for minimum wage while he was between jobs a few years ago. The local sheriff was doing a under cover thing with a girl that was about 5 days from turning 21. She came in on a day where he was running the store by himself and was totally backed up with food orders and stuff. After she walks out with the beer a cop walked in and shut the place down.
His fine was over $600, the store's fine was MUCH more. He had to borrow money from me that month just to pay his rent, they hit him for more than two weeks pay. He carded EVERYONE after that.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: We have that setup - only at grocery stores here in PA. I am in my mid-40's. I have gray chest hair and gray stubble and I can't buy a 6-pack there w/o them scanning my ID at the Wiess Market. I went in last summer from the pool, in a bathing suit, dripping with no ID. I appealed to the guy using logic and reason... like "You are what 35? Do you think I'm really younger than you? How many underage drinkers have gray chest/ball hairs, chicken feet around their eyes or polio vaccine scars? He said "I know, I know... " and really swore he could not take my money w/o the scan. so I had to play frogger with traffic to cross the highway to the pizza place. 2 six packs to go no problem. berkeleying idiots. This is just another asshat zero tolerance policy. I'm glad it only hurts them. I vote with my wallet.
He probably couldn't, the register was probably locked up waiting for the ID to be scanned. I always thought it was weird that Home Depot does the same thing. It is illegal in Florida for anybody under 18 to buy spraypaint and perminant markers (because all underage kids in florida are graffiti artists, right?) and their machines here in NJ still lock up when you buy paint until the cashier makes a decision as to your age
"The Man®" may not be tracking your purchases, but the stores certainly are by various means. I buy most of our groceries at our local SuperTarget, and pay with either my ATM card or my Amex (love those miles...). Anyway, the coupons I get with my receipt are a direct reflection of my buying habits, and seem to push the hardest for things that I may not have picked up in a visit or two. The algorithm is so good that my first reaction upon seeing them is usually "Oh yeah, I need some [chicken wings/almond milk/lube/whatever]." not "ZOMG NEW WORLD ORDER!"
I think I've long ago given up any notion of true privacy. And the thing is, "they" never "took" it from us. We gave it up voluntarily and enthusiastically in the name of convenience, perceived safety, and a fleeting hope for our 15 minutes. Look, you can't post a video of your crime spree on YouTube then whine about there being too much intrusion into privacy.
jg
JG Pasterjak wrote: I think I've long ago given up any notion of true privacy. And the thing is, "they" never "took" it from us. We gave it up voluntarily and enthusiastically in the name of convenience, perceived safety, and a fleeting hope for our 15 minutes. Look, you can't post a video of your crime spree on YouTube then whine about there being too much intrusion into privacy.
It isn't all gone yet from retail. You can still buy stuff with cash. When they ask for any information you can just say "No thanks".
Now - the government... Those motherberkeleyers are all up your colon and there isn't much you can do about it except fake your own death and live out the rest of your life like grizzly adams. E36 M3. Now I can't even do that.
JG Pasterjak wrote: "The Man®" may not be tracking your purchases, but the stores certainly are by various means. I buy most of our groceries at our local SuperTarget, and pay with either my ATM card or my Amex (love those miles...). Anyway, the coupons I get with my receipt are a direct reflection of my buying habits, and seem to push the hardest for things that I may not have picked up in a visit or two. The algorithm is so good that my first reaction upon seeing them is usually "Oh yeah, I need some [chicken wings/almond milk/lube/whatever]." not "ZOMG NEW WORLD ORDER!" I think I've long ago given up any notion of true privacy. And the thing is, "they" never "took" it from us. We gave it up voluntarily and enthusiastically in the name of convenience, perceived safety, and a fleeting hope for our 15 minutes. Look, you can't post a video of your crime spree on YouTube then whine about there being too much intrusion into privacy. jg
An interesting read! http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/
What's really freaking me out is we've started getting "baby" coupons again, so I've had to accuse my wife of buying unscented lotion and hiding it from me!
What gets me is that the government used 1970's computer technology for the FAA up until last week or so, cannot fix the pothole in front of my house if National Security depended on it, can't track the conditions of bridges on national highways and so they collapse, has no clue how many illegals are in the country or where or if they are terrorists, let 1.8 million dead people vote last year ...the list goes on...but people still believe in these amazingly complex and advanced government conspiracies. Private, for-profit companies are what you should be worried about. They are much better at tracking us and if law enforcement gets turned over to them, we are all screwed.
skruffy wrote: they hit him for more than two weeks pay. He carded EVERYONE after that.
As in the store did? That is highly illegal...
Can't get into clubs here without having your driver's licence scanned and your picture taken. True story (in Red Deer, Alberta).
The thing is, do you want to get into the club and party or not? If you do, you play by their rules. No one is forcing you to go there.
It's Alberta, you can still get drunk and fall down in a field somewhere without needing ID.
Don't turn into this guy
In reply to fasted58:
His manifesto is some interesting reading. He was making some sense until the part where stuff started blowing up.
You'll need to log in to post.
