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friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado Dork
2/12/10 2:53 a.m.

We all know what box flares do for tub cars.

http://tinyurl.com/yjnhjse

So what does the same trick for open-wheelers?

Big, tall, snorkeley intake airboxes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYeIieulC8U

(most of the rest of that race is on youtube, just keep pressing "part 2", "part 3" etc.)

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/12/10 6:34 a.m.

I would have said "wings."

oldsaw
oldsaw Dork
2/12/10 8:22 a.m.

Airboxes be damned:

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/12/10 8:40 a.m.

I've always thought that Formula cars were just about perfect when they looked like this:

TJ
TJ Dork
2/12/10 8:53 a.m.

6 wheels?

Appleseed
Appleseed Dork
2/12/10 4:16 p.m.

Manly men who raced with brawn, not computers.

bamalama
bamalama Reader
2/12/10 4:20 p.m.

Fenders.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/12/10 4:58 p.m.

a bit of offset

GlennS
GlennS Dork
2/12/10 6:15 p.m.

im with woody. Just needs to be a torpedo with a driver in place of the warhead.

JoeyM
JoeyM Reader
2/12/10 6:20 p.m.
TJ wrote: 6 wheels?

FTW!! You've got to love the P34. Great idea. Staniforth says that the tires overheating was part of the problem that car had....I wonder if the same concept would be more effective in a modern car with better rubber compounds.

zomby woof
zomby woof HalfDork
2/12/10 6:27 p.m.

Power to weight ratio?

Being able to wheelie out of a turn (and these appear to be budget class cars)?

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/12/10 6:28 p.m.
JoeyM wrote: You've got to love the P34. Great idea. Staniforth says that the tires overheating was part of the problem that car had....

I wonder if they had trouble with the wheel bearings as well.

oldsaw
oldsaw Dork
2/12/10 6:59 p.m.
Woody wrote:
JoeyM wrote: You've got to love the P34. Great idea. Staniforth says that the tires overheating was part of the problem that car had....
I wonder if they had trouble with the wheel bearings as well.

From memory, bearings were never a problem. Goodyear wouldn't continue development on the tires either.

Oh, and there was that whole getting banned by rule changes thing, too.

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
2/12/10 7:09 p.m.

double diffusers.....

JoeyM
JoeyM Reader
2/12/10 7:11 p.m.
oldsaw wrote:
Woody wrote:
JoeyM wrote: You've got to love the P34. Great idea. Staniforth says that the tires overheating...
I wonder if they had trouble with the wheel bearings as well.
Oh, and there was that whole getting banned by rule changes thing, too.

"One or two [race car designs] inspired that most unnattractive of human reactions - 'It's going to win - let's get it banned'; with instant resort to the relevant small print rather than to the drawing board to compete" - Alan Staniforth, Race and Rally Car Sourcebook

Slyp_Dawg
Slyp_Dawg GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/12/10 7:16 p.m.

having the notion of your rear end sharing a container shaped like a small bomb with an engine that's absolutely screaming, knowing that any touch of the walls or another car is going to catapult you into the air or rip suspension bits off, I think that's what makes open wheel so cool for me

Capt Slow
Capt Slow HalfDork
2/12/10 7:39 p.m.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/12/10 9:56 p.m.
Woody wrote: I've always thought that Formula cars were just about perfect when they looked like this:

I am with you here..... no fenders, no wings, no air boxes...

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/12/10 9:58 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: I am with you here..... no fenders, no wings, no air boxes...

...and front radiator.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado Dork
2/13/10 2:02 a.m.
zomby woof wrote: Being able to wheelie out of a turn (and these appear to be budget class cars)?

I'd always heard from my oval racing buds that Dirt Modifieds cost money.

OTOH, I'd also heard that Dirt Modified races actually pay money...

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado Dork
2/13/10 2:09 a.m.
Woody wrote: I've always thought that Formula cars were just about perfect when they looked like this:

One for you "minimalists"..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf6RNZ9PYFA

Includes a shot of legendary SCCA Start marshall "Tex" Hopkins in his lavender suit!

Appleseed
Appleseed Dork
2/13/10 2:12 a.m.
JoeyM wrote: "One or two [race car designs] inspired that most unnattractive of human reactions - 'It's going to win - let's get it banned'; with instant resort to the relevant small print rather than to the drawing board to compete" - Alan Staniforth, Race and Rally Car Sourcebook

Granatelli's STP turbine car comes to mind.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado Dork
2/13/10 2:17 a.m.
Appleseed wrote: Manly men who raced with brawn, not computers.

Agreed.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/13/10 3:41 a.m.
friedgreencorrado wrote:
Woody wrote: I've always thought that Formula cars were just about perfect when they looked like this:
One for you "minimalists".. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf6RNZ9PYFA Includes a shot of legendary SCCA Start marshall "Tex" Hopkins in his lavender suit!

That's how racing should be... all skill, hp, and rubber... none of this fancy aerodynamics stuff

zomby woof
zomby woof HalfDork
2/13/10 8:53 a.m.
friedgreencorrado wrote: I'd always heard from my oval racing buds that Dirt Modifieds cost money. OTOH, I'd also heard that Dirt Modified races actually *pay* money...

I don't think they're dirt mods.

I think they're either IMCA modifieds, or all-pro mods, both claimer classes.

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