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Mental
Mental SuperDork
7/14/08 1:07 p.m.

http://www.mwcog.org/commuter/Bdy-Cost.html

Probably a repost but;

$64.39 month $772.68 year = Car

$46.68 month $560.16 year = Bike

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/14/08 1:15 p.m.

@$165, @$1981

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand New Reader
7/14/08 1:20 p.m.

41.5 Miles each way X 245 trips per year X $4.78 per gallon @ 21.5 mpg = $4,521.

Between retirement savings and taxes, I only see 52% of my gross so that’s $8,680 off the top end.

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
7/14/08 1:27 p.m.

a gallon a day for me, two gallons a day for my wife.

aircooled
aircooled Dork
7/14/08 1:39 p.m.

With the bike (which I have riding a lot recently):

$235.20 / year

With the car:

$625.20 / year

Yes living close to work, having non-depreciating vehicles that are paid for and get decent mileage works out for me...

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
7/14/08 1:46 p.m.

with the car $165.00

I live 6 miles from work and drive a 38mpg civic. I'd ride the bicycle but no showers at work.

joey48442
joey48442 Dork
7/14/08 2:31 p.m.

$3.22 per week $38.64 per year

The pizza place I work at is only about 1000 feet away.

....But once I get there, I have to deliver pizzas, and that adds a bit!

Joey

neon4891
neon4891 HalfDork
7/14/08 2:32 p.m.

$160 a month or so

JFX001
JFX001 HalfDork
7/14/08 2:37 p.m.

$ 0.00

I get up....walk 38 steps to the bathroom for my "Good Morning BM"...then another 20 or so steps to my desk.

Salanis
Salanis Dork
7/14/08 2:38 p.m.

About the same as if I took to bus. But with the added benefit of a flexible schedule and not having to put up with other people.

Nashco
Nashco Dork
7/14/08 2:38 p.m.

Cost per mile for insurance, taxes, financing, registration, etc. doesn't make much sense IMO. I tried finding a calculator that used monthly or yearly values for those to simplify things, but couldn't find one. This one was a little better, but still uses per mile numbers for maintenance, registration, etc. so I had to think a little differently than I normally would.

http://www.commutesolutions.com/howmuch.html

My commute cost alone:

$1200/year, mostly insurance and maintenance. Technically I carpool to work, so it would be more like $600/year.

I don't have the heart to add up my fleet costs outside of the commute. Racecars and new tools and tire bills, OH MY!

Bryce

jwdmotorsports
jwdmotorsports New Reader
7/14/08 2:45 p.m.

(50 mile round trip)(235 trips per year)($3.95/gallon)/(38mpg)

$1221.38

If I drive the Civic like a granny I can get 43mpg. I just calculated that I could save about $140 a year.

rainydave
rainydave
7/14/08 3:04 p.m.

$0. I work from my home office.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin Dork
7/14/08 3:10 p.m.

Depends. I recently moved back with my parents so...

Subaru: $1880 Saturn: $1382 Yamaha: $940

I intend to move back closer to work, which will cut those numbers down to about 40% of those values.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/14/08 3:19 p.m.
joey48442 wrote: $3.22 per week $38.64 per year The pizza place I work at is only about 1000 feet away. ....But once I get there, I have to deliver pizzas, and that adds a bit! Joey

I call BS. Your wife drives the same distance as well, and if I am not mistaken you drive to your mothers for lunch most days and that is another 3000 ft the opposite way :)

nderwater
nderwater New Reader
7/14/08 3:27 p.m.

I have a 2001 BMW 530i, '99 M3 and '99 Miata. I'm making payments on the 530i and Miata to the tune of about $800/month. Add in insurance, fuel, maintenance/repair and depreciation costs, and I'm spending $1,300-1,500 per month on cars/commuting expenses. That's after tax income which equates to a figure approaching $20,000 cut from my annual salary. Pretty s**tty when you think about it in those terms. That's why I recently started taking public transit to work and put the turbo Miata up for sale.

Chris_V
Chris_V SuperDork
7/14/08 4:10 p.m.

I look at it this way. Hobbies, vacations, entertainment, etc have very low ROI. Pretty much zero, in fact, unless you get a little back from your hobby occasionally. So if you look at your hobby cars as having a bad ROI because it costs you X amount per month to own, then remember why you're spending the money on a hobby/entertainment in the first place. And why you earn more than minimum wage.

Owning my hobby cars cost money. It's money that's specifically about having the hobby because it's fun and makes me happy. Using that hobby to get to work to make money costs very little, in retrospect.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/14/08 4:55 p.m.

$48 a month, $785 a year. I doubt my ti or Saab can depreciate any more than they already have

aircooled
aircooled Dork
7/14/08 4:56 p.m.
ignorant wrote: with the car $165.00 I live 6 miles from work and drive a 38mpg civic. I'd ride the bicycle but no showers at work.

I think you missed something there. I live 6 miles from work and at 60 mpg it comes out to $235 a year for me. Estimating the cost per mile in upkeep is a bit difficult. Don't forget insurance and registration costs.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
7/14/08 5:03 p.m.

that was 165 a month

Nashco
Nashco Dork
7/14/08 5:11 p.m.

Even $250 a year seems freakin' low. Say insurance is only $10/month, that's already $120 a year (and really cheap insurance!). Two cheap oil changes brings you up to $160 a year. That's assuming you never have to do any maintenance or pay for gas. Throw another hundred bucks a year for tires, tune up, wiper blades, belts, etc. and you're up to $260/year. You still haven't bought any fuel. aircooled's fuel alone at 60 mpg is almost $200/year, which would bring that up to $460/year. You still haven't figured in registration and taxes. I think you guys are being a little too optimistic.

Bryce

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand New Reader
7/14/08 5:22 p.m.
Chris_V wrote: And why you earn more than minimum wage.

Your comment made me think Chris...if you're broke, you really ony have two choices for reliable, free entertainment...network TV and bopping. The first shows you what you could have if you had money and the second consumes any money you have.

No joking...I was insanely broke all through grad school but at that time, "entertainment" was getting four rather than zero hours of sleep...I never considered what a permanently broke person does for entertainment.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
7/14/08 5:46 p.m.

$66.69/month

took out the cost of depreciation, cause my car is actually appreciating right now. insurance is cheap say $60 a month. I uped the maint and taxes deal slightly,

anyway... it's a cheap car.

aircooled
aircooled Dork
7/14/08 6:36 p.m.
Nashco wrote: ...aircooled's fuel alone at 60 mpg is almost $200/year, which would bring that up to $460/year. You still haven't figured in registration and taxes....

Up, you are correct, I did it again and it comes up to $528 a year, I missed adding the insurance. Maintenance is very low though, not much to do there, oil is only one quart and even good motorcycle oil is only about $4 / quart.

seann
seann New Reader
7/14/08 6:55 p.m.

A lot of calories. I've got a 12mile round trip to work and it is all on bike paths. I love bike season! Only down side is I'm a little sweaty when I get in but I dry out in the AC pretty quick. I have to wear saftey glasses that I borrowed from the geochem lab to keep the bugs out of my eyes in the evening and I've learned to breath through my teeth

Due to lack of parking, driving is not an option but there are many of lazy mornings I wish I could just take my car. Always, not far into the ride however, I'm glad to be on my bike.

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